[Mailman-Users] Re: mailman v2.x

2020-09-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
I admit I haven’t been following this thread very closely, and don’t intend to do so. (There’s a reason I turned over project management a few years ago :). Just a couple of points. > On Sep 15, 2020, at 18:11, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > When you say py3, are you talking about python 3? Are

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM3 book in the works

2018-01-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 13, 2018, at 09:38, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > I've been working on a book about mailing list management and usage -- > including MTAs, MLMs (such as Mailman), processes, best practices, etc. > The MM material to this point has been MM2-centric, but I've been running > various

[Mailman-Users] Time Stand Still

2017-11-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
Somewhen in the dark recesses of intarweb history, I found myself as the project leader for both Jython (née JPython) and GNU Mailman. I'd been involved with Jython since it was invented by Jim Hugunin around the time he came to work with us at Pythonlabs. I'd been contributing to Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Django

2017-10-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 3, 2017, at 07:41, Ruben Safir wrote: > > I'm not sure why you decided to add Django as a dependency of Mailman > but it is a losey idea to add an additional entire operational > development platform in order to just get a mailing list up and running. You must be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Authenticated Received Chain in Mailman?

2017-05-31 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 30, 2017, at 08:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Steve will probably have more to say on this, but we had a GSOC project last >year on this and there is a Mailman 3 branch at > that is a work in >progress on ARC. Steve did briefly mention at

Re: [Mailman-Users] ANNOUNCE: Mailman 3.1.0 final!

2017-05-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 27, 2017, at 08:35 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >If anyone is interested in helping with packaging for specific distros, >we would love to have your help. There was some early work on Debian packaging, which was put on hold until 3.1 was released. Now that Stretch's release has also been

[Mailman-Users] ANNOUNCE: Mailman 3.1.0 final!

2017-05-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hello Mailpeople! On behalf of the entire team and all our wonderful contributors, I'm happy to announce the release of GNU Mailman 3.1 final. My deep thanks go to all the Mailman project sprinters at Pycon 2017 for getting us over the line! Two years after the original release of Mailman 3.0,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unsubscriptions after DMARC fix

2017-04-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 05, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Barry encourages participation by musicians! > >Not official Barry-spokesman, but reasonably good at channeling :-) Don't forget the secret bassplayer.py handler! You email it a drum pattern and it replybots you a funky groove in E. -B

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2 and 3

2017-03-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 30, 2017, at 08:11 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: >Interesting. I know there's a pretty clear division between components in 3; >can the web interface run on a separate machine and point to a remote >instance of Mailman? Yep! It's somewhat important to keep in mind that the REST API of Core is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2 and 3

2017-03-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 30, 2017, at 04:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >I'm afraid Node.js is still a requirement. Of the web interface of course. Technically those are optional components, but practically speaking if you want to control Mailman 3 via the web, that's the only option. -Barry

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 The Definitive Mailman Suite - Download error

2017-03-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 30, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Henrik Rasmussen wrote: >Both in the Mailman Suite Setup Guide section "Set up and run Mailman Core" >the code is supposed to be downloaded using the command "git clone >g...@gitlab.com:mailman/mailman.git", but I get a Permission Denied I'll fix that to use the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recent trouble with DMARC Munging

2017-01-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 19, 2017, at 09:17 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >As far as I can tell nobody in the Mailman crew has ever had a problem >with hosting services that support their customers using cPanel. It's >a great idea for that! cPanel also donated a VM for us to use in our CI process on GitLab, and

Re: [Mailman-Users] A quick question about slicing outgoing qrunner

2016-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 08, 2016, at 08:15 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> ('OutgoingRunner', 3), # outgoing messages to the smtpd (change to three >> '3' queues) Slices must be a power of 2. Cheers, -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hire consultant to install Mailman 3 on Dreamhost

2016-08-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Still, most users considering MM 3 would probably do best by waiting for >the official MM 3.1 release. Which I am hoping will happen in the latter half of September, early October. Although HyperKitty isn't tracking milestones yet, core and

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2's future (was Re: Filtering out Digest replies)

2016-07-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 12, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >It depends on how you define "end of life". Granted there will be MM 2.1 >lists in use for a very long time. There may still even be Mailman 2.0 >lists in active use. > >The real question is not how long there will be users, but how long will

[Mailman-Users] Command line access to Mailman 3 (was Re: Filtering out Digest replies)

2016-07-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 12, 2016, at 04:04 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >Thomas Gramstad writes: > > > There is also the issue of listadmin, the script for command line > > processing of list moderation requests. I'm not sure this script > > is being updated currently, and so probably does not work with > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.22 release

2016-04-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 18, 2016, at 08:57 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >Mark, Thank You for your hard work and dedication to providing the >worlds best mailinglist manager, it is much appreciated by many >people. Indeed! Mark has my deepest gratitude for his ongoing care of Mailman 2.1. -Barry

Re: [Mailman-Users] Start a new thread" button doesn't work - Mailman3.0.2 Panel

2016-03-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 16, 2016, at 06:50 AM, scorpio 2005 via Mailman-Users wrote: >Thanks for your reply. We are running mailman 3.0.2 using bundler and we are >facing couple of issue with this version. We are stuck with this issues. We >are not sure which one is stable version in mailman to use it. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 list description - non-ASCII characters?

2016-02-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 24, 2016, at 02:51 PM, Igor Maly wrote: >I'd like to use non-ASCII characters in list description. >To keep it simple, let's assume I want the list description to be single >character "á" (Unicode: \u00e1, UTF-8: C3 A1). >I can enter such a description in list identity page

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 mass subscribe

2016-02-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 24, 2016, at 03:50 PM, Igor Maly wrote: >(1)Recipient of the welcome mail is "None ", which yields >"None" as recipient name in my mail client (Outlook 2010). That's clearly a bug. Please file that: https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues >(2)In the welcome mail there are some links

[Mailman-Users] ANNOUNCING: GNU Mailman 3.0.1

2015-11-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
I'm happy to announce the first maintenance release of GNU Mailman 3. This version 3.0.1 release includes updates to the core, Postorius, HyperKitty, and mailman.client. The release matrix of versions is available here: http://wiki.list.org/Mailman3 You can find more information about the

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 status

2015-07-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
[resend w/proper address] On Jul 13, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: - Performance measurements. There are theoretical reasons to believe that under certain circumstances a large Mailman 3 under heavy use *might* suffer bottlenecks, but we just don't know yet. Note that the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman 3: Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't encode character

2015-05-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 29, 2015, at 01:49 AM, casi.pw wrote: I'm trying to run mailman 3 in production on a shared server. Mailman gets its mail from exim via LMTP. First it appeared to work fine, but I got a problem: According to my mailman.log, mails with special characters (in this case €, but also Germanic

[Mailman-Users] Please consider donating to the GNU Mailman project

2015-05-04 Thread Barry Warsaw
I should have included this in our release announcement. I'd like to remind everyone that GNU Mailman has a directed donation fund set up at the Free Software Foundation. Please consider donating! http://wiki.list.org/x/4816967 This year, we used a portion of our fund to sponsor Abhilash

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 3.0 and exim

2015-05-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 01, 2015, at 08:13 PM, Thomas Stein wrote: In $home_mailman/var/etc/mailman.cfg i have this setting: Did you restart Mailman after changing this configuration? Make sure `mailman info` confirms you're using the configuration file you think you are. Make sure `mailman conf` confirms the

[Mailman-Users] ANNOUNCING: GNU Mailman 3.0

2015-04-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
Twenty years ago, I attended the first Python Workshop at NIST with about 20 other old school Pythonistas. Earlier this month I attended PyCon 2015 in Montreal. PyCon is always exhilarating, but this one was incredibly special for me personally, because my son was on spring break and joined me

Re: [Mailman-Users] Will slices ever become permanent?

2015-04-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 07, 2015, at 02:15 PM, Jeff Taylor wrote: Well that's a shame that there hasn't been any more interest. I have a file documenting the changes needed, which are pretty simple, so if any interest is expressed in this thread I'll share the details. Any chance you could file a bug (tagged

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 20, 2015, at 09:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: I'd really like to know which email user agents really do this. In my experience, none of the ones used by 99+% of the worlds population actually use do this. I'm sure I'm proudly in the minority, but I use Claws Mail almost exclusively and it has

Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing list

2015-03-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 20, 2015, at 08:19 AM, Andrew Stuart wrote: When I reply to a message on a mailing list, what is the “right” way to do it? Should I be deleting previous thread text from my response? Should I be adding anything in? Of course, Wikipedia is the font of all human knowledge and truth:

[Mailman-Users] Announcing the new wiki.list.org

2015-01-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
I am very happy to announce our new wiki! If you go to wiki.list.org you will see our shiny new Moin-based wiki. We are retiring the old Confluence-based wiki at the end of February. Until then, you can access it at old-wiki.list.org. Our very huge thanks go to Paul Boddie who did the amazing

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Announce] Announcing the new wiki.list.org

2015-01-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: If you had write access to the old wiki and want it again for the new wiki, you will have to re-submit a request to mailman-ca...@python.org. Please be sure to register with wiki.list.org and provide us with your user name. Paul reminds me

[Mailman-Users] RELEASED: GNU Mailman (core) 3.0b5

2014-12-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hello friends of Mailman, and Happy New Year! You can roll that stone To the top of the hill Drag your ball and chain behind you Once again, it's time for the traditional avoid the copyright year bump release. I'm happy to announce the fifth beta release of Mailman 3.0 core, code

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman keeps creating var directories

2014-12-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 03, 2014, at 08:15 AM, Andrew Stuart wrote: If I run the mailman command it keeps creating “var” directories in whatever the current directory is. Is that intentional? Mailman 2 or 3? If Mailman 3, please discuss on the mailman-developers list for now. Cheers, -Barry

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is cron used in Mailman 3?

2014-12-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 03, 2014, at 08:14 AM, Andrew Stuart wrote: Where can I find the documentation that explains the required configuration for cron in Mailman 3? Mailman 3 is best discussed on mailman-developers. There isn't much existing documentation on running any cron scripts for MM3. Cheers, -Barry

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM3/Delivery Problem

2014-10-31 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 31, 2014, at 07:47 PM, Guillaume Libersat wrote: The problem is now fixed... I don't really know what happened but it seems it was related to sqlite3 and database locking. Thanks for helping, if I manage to find what really happened, I'll file a bug report. Very soon (perhaps this

[Mailman-Users] Changes coming to the GNU Mailman wiki

2014-10-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hi folks. I'm happy to announce some changes to the GNU Mailman infrastructure that has been a long time coming. For many years, our wiki hosted at wiki.list.org has been running on a donated instance of Atlassian Confluence. We are extremely grateful to both Atlassian and the hosting provider

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman equivalent of Yahoo Special Announcements?

2014-09-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 19, 2014, at 02:50 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: I'm about to migrate a Yahoo Groups mailing list to mailman. Yahoo Groups offers four delivery modes: - individual emails - daily digests - no mail - special announcements only The closest thing to the latter is the Urgent header, but IIRC,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Add PayPal to DNs publishing DMARC p=reject

2014-05-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 06, 2014, at 02:15 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: No, the point is that a phishing mail with From: Chase Bank Customer Service serv...@chase.com.invalid will sail right past DMARC, as currently set up. So too will serv...@chase.com.ru without Mailman ever getting involved, and I bet

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Reply-To lines with from_is_list munging.

2014-05-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 06, 2014, at 05:17 PM, Glenn Sieb wrote: Fair enough. So, basically I'm fsck'd. Set the lists to be anonymous_list or set an explicit reply-to to be the lists and hope that strips out the extraneous reply-to entry. Yes, and sadly it's forced on us by external policies. I must admit that

[Mailman-Users] ANNOUNCE: The GNU Mailman 3 suite, beta 1 preview

2014-04-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hello Mailman enthusiasts! Time and motion Wind and sun and rain Days connect like boxcars in a train Another Pycon has come and gone and with it, another fantastic sprint among the core developers. We accomplished quite a bit, and now we'd like to share the results with you. On

Re: [Mailman-Users] #Mailman

2014-04-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 24, 2014, at 04:37 PM, Sylvain Viart wrote: What the hashtag #mailman stand for? That's the channel name on the freenode IRC network we use. https://www.freenode.net/ If you don't have a dedicated IRC client, this is a good web-based one I've used often: https://kiwiirc.com/ Cheers,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

2014-04-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 17, 2014, at 03:54 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: Now that my problem has gone from 'getting the EP footers to work' to 'understanding what exactly is going on here'. And right now I do not see why the charset for the lists' language has to be hard coded in mm_cfg.py, nor why there has to be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mirror mailing list with web forum

2014-04-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 17, 2014, at 04:27 AM, Jon 1234 wrote: When is Mailman 3 expected to be released, very approximately? We *are* going to do a beta release of the full suite after Pycon. I expect there will be bugs and missing features, but we're hoping people will bang on it and help us get to a good,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to understand charset encoding in mailman

2014-04-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 18, 2014, at 03:07 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Getting it right by design ... well, that's why we need Mailman 3. And really, Python 3. The email package in Python 3.4 rocks. -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC and Gmail

2014-04-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 17, 2014, at 04:34 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Sure, but that's the tradeoff that DMARC explicitly makes. DMARC thinks that rejecting spam and phishing is sometimes more important than delivering legitimate mail, and that the provider of a mailbox is the appropriate entity to make that

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC issues

2014-04-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 13, 2014, at 08:48 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: Launchpad is not my forte, so I'm not even sure how to push only my modifications to LP without the upstream branch changes. And yes, I'll be the first to say it's a bit confusing in it's current branch. The best way to do it is to submit a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Best solution to fix the yahoo problem?

2014-04-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 14, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Given that the whole site is at risk, should it be an option for list owners at all? This is a good point. It may make sense for the site admin to select whether some general DMARC mitigation approach is enabled for their lists or not,

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC issues

2014-04-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 10, 2014, at 03:09 PM, Siniša Burina wrote: I believe there's no need to elaborate on the problems recently introduced by Yahoo, changing their DMARC DNS record and rendering many mailman lists unusable for Yahoo mail users. It *is* a shame that these anti-spam defenses knowingly break

Re: [Mailman-Users] DMARC issues

2014-04-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 11, 2014, at 02:57 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: The straightforward thing for Mailman to do is to wrap mail from yahoo addresses in a multipart/mixed with a text part explaining that Yahoo is knowingly interfering with the mail service of their users, and the mail itself in a

Re: [Mailman-Users] building a new mailman server

2014-03-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 27, 2014, at 05:26 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Exim and Postfix both have recipes for working with Mailman 3. It seems likely to me that it won't be hard to get Mailman 3 and Sendmail to work and play well together -- but nobody has done it yet. It's certainly the intent of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] 'Dynamic' footer

2014-03-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 13, 2014, at 09:40 AM, Rodti MacLeary wrote: If there's no current solution or workaround to this is it something that could be considered for Mailman 3? This is planned for Mailman 3, and most of the infrastructure is there. The one bit that's missing is the ability to interpolate

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] MM3 Test Hangs

2014-02-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 26, 2014, at 02:45 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: I have no idea what to do next, This is clearly a bug, although I think it's relatively recent, so it might be worth seeing if earlier revisions avoid the problem. Yes, I can reproduce it. The interesting thing is that the test is in

[Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman sprinting at Pycon 2014

2014-02-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hello sprinters! Once again, the GNU Mailman project will be sprinting at Pycon, this time the 2014 conference in Montreal. I've created a placeholder page for adding ideas about what you would like to work on, as well as our priorities. We'll be filling out details over the next few weeks, but

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM 3 and OSCON 2014

2014-02-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 21, 2014, at 08:15 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: 2. Is MM going to have a presence at O'reilly's OSCON 2014 in July? I don't plan to be there, but others may. There will be a number of us at PyCon in April https://us.pycon.org/2014/. I won't be at OSCON either. We'll be sprinting on Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Kernel update breaks Mailman!!

2014-02-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 20, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: I'm running Mailman 2.1.15 on a Ubuntu server, feeding into Courier MTA, running Python 2.7.3. I track security updates and install them promptly when they're issued by Ubuntu. Yesterday I updated the Linux kernel from 3.2.0-58-generic

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is rewriting Message-Id

2013-11-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 13, 2013, at 02:53 PM, Roel Wagenaar wrote: Seems to work fine, unfortunatily mailman is rewriting the Message-Id of the injected emails. From info on the web I was led to believe this should not happen, however I can not find a config option to overrule this behaviour. Is it save to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman reusing message-id, leads to duplicate message suppression

2013-11-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 06, 2013, at 09:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: For lists hosted by the same Mailman, Mailman 3 might be able to handle this by adding *both* List-Ids to the header, and only adding the (other) RFC 2369 headers for the list(s) the user is subscribed to. Of course this requires

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman reusing message-id, leads to duplicate message suppression

2013-11-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 06, 2013, at 09:51 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: I believe that according to RFC 5322 (and predecessors) Mailman SHOULD add a Resent-Message-ID to indicate that it handled the message, but I doubt this would change the duplicate-suppression behavior of Gmail and MS Exchange. This

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman reusing message-id, leads to duplicate message suppression

2013-11-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 05, 2013, at 02:46 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: There's not way of turning this off on Exchange Sounds like the same bit of helpfulness that Gmail performs. http://wiki.list.org/x/2IA9 It's a tough problem, but I think Mailman's retention of the original Message-Ids is the right-er

[Mailman-Users] ANN: wiki.list.org migrations

2013-08-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hello everyone, I want to mention a few things related to wiki.list.org. First and most immediately, our currently wiki hosting provider Contegix, is in the process of a major infrastructure update which will cause some downtime for wiki.list.org. Contegix has been hosting our wiki gratis for

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM3 [was: Re: Custom Pages]

2013-06-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 06, 2013, at 02:52 PM, Jan Lausch wrote: What's up with MM3? Is there any indication on when it will be ready? Yes, although most of the conversation happens on mailman-developers these days. I expect we'll see a lot of great progress on Postorius (the new web ui) during this year's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is Mailman 2.1 not plushack aware?

2013-06-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 02, 2013, at 02:45 PM, Bill Cole wrote: There is no reason that Mailman couldn't be enhanced with a configurable *option* that would allow the domain Admin to *tell* it which character(s) (there was recent talk on the postfix list of postfix being enhanced to allow multiple

Re: [Mailman-Users] Making a Mailman legacy archive searchable?

2013-04-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 12, 2013, at 01:06 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: FreeWAIS (oldie but still goodie), Namazu, and Xapian come to mind. They all require some effort on the part of the user, though. I don't know of anything that you can trivially install (eg, from RPM or .deb). Whoosh is technology I'm

Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp solution

2013-03-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
I love Gmane too, and would love for NNTP access to be pretty much an out-of-the-box available feature for Mailman 3. We've talked about it over in mailman-developers, and if you're interested in working on this, please join us over there. On Mar 06, 2013, at 09:15 AM, jdd wrote: I manage it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Testing STEALTH_MODE = 1

2013-01-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 11, 2013, at 01:14 PM, Tom Skelley wrote: Out of interested, is there an ETA on a production release of Mailman 3.x ? At this point, we're mostly trying to get the web ui (Postorius) feature compatible with Mailman 2.1. We're also working on the new archiver (Hyperkitty). I think the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated Subscription Bots Inundating List Owners With Subscription Requests

2012-10-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 29, 2012, at 02:14 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: Such an enhancement would obviously not help anyone using a currently older Mailman package, but going forward, say into MM3, it might be a good idea to make this information available in some such way. I use courier as a MTA, and courier has

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman running very slow

2012-10-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 24, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:06:28AM -0700, Brad Knowles wrote: On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Lindsay Haisley fmouse-mail...@fmp.com wrote: Another very useful tool for analyzing mail issues is swaks. Now that's a tool I had not heard of

[Mailman-Users] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 2

2012-09-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hello friends of Mailman! Sometimes we freeze until the light comes Sometimes we're wrong and sometimes we're right I'm happy to announce the second beta release of Mailman 3.0, code named Freeze. I expect the code name to appropriately reflect the stability of the database schema and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to install mm 3.0.0b1

2012-06-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 20, 2012, at 07:45 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: I sent this to the dev list and didn't get any answers. It's probably more appropriate on this list anyway. Sorry, that message came in too late in my otherwise busy day to respond on the developers list. I don't mind mm3 discussions on the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ubuntu release of Mailman

2012-05-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 11, 2012, at 02:15 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: I just installed, and just as promptly un-installed mailman on Ubuntu server 10.04.4 LTS. The offered pacakge version of mailman for this release, which I used, is 2.1.13-1. I have a few questions which perhaps someone could answer, if anyone

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 26, 2012, at 04:11 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: Great news Barry, but just one thing, I checked now on list.org and the GNU Mailman website and there is no mention of this release.. is that on purpose? Not really. The server moved recently and my keys hadn't been installed. Looks like they

[Mailman-Users] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

2012-03-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hello Mailman enthusiasts! Use the key, unlock the door See what your fate might have in store... Building on the excitement and amazing progress at our sprints at Pycon 2012, I am very happy to announce the availability of GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1, code named The Twilight Zone. After

Re: [Mailman-Users] iPhone App for moderating mails

2012-02-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Feb 08, 2012, at 07:27 PM, Manuel Weiel wrote: The other app wasn't updated for a long time, so I decided to start over and make an alternative. Wow, this is really cool. I'm going to buy it and play with it. -Barry -- Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] CSRF prevention in mailman3

2012-01-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 29, 2012, at 06:57 PM, Anil Jangity wrote: Will mailman3 have any security measures in the form submissions to prevent CSRF? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_request_forgery Mailman 3 has quite a different architecture than Mailman 2. Specifically, the web UI is a separate

[Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman sprint at Pycon 2012

2012-01-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hey folks, it looks like we're going to have a quorum of core developers at Pycon 2012 in Santa Clara, so we will definitely be sprinting on Mailman 3. We'll be primarily working on the integration of the core engine with the official Django-based web ui. If you want to participate, kibbitz, or

Re: [Mailman-Users] Thoughts about migrating to Mailman instead of Sympa (from Majordomo)

2012-01-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 19, 2012, at 06:32 PM, Geoff Mayes wrote: Mailman is more mature (the max bug ID for mailman in its issue-tracking system is ~913,400; the max bug ID for Sympa is 8,117 and there is still no bug category for Sympa's latest version -- 6.1.7 -- even though it has been out for over 4

[Mailman-Users] Fw: About Tokio Kikuchi

2012-01-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
I'm sorry to forward some very sad news about one of our own from the Mailman community. If you've ever looked at the ACKNOWLEDGMENTS file you will see this entry in the core contributors section: Tokio Kikuchi, Mailman's weatherman Tokio Kikuchi was instrumental in our early

[Mailman-Users] Mailman lists now available on Gmane

2011-11-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
I'm very happy to announce that at long last, the main GNU Mailman mailing lists hosted at python.org are now available on Gmane. This includes: mailman-announce mailman-developers mailman-users mailman-i18n All of the archives for these lists have been imported as well. If

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman violates RFC 1153?

2011-11-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 07, 2011, at 07:24 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: And if you looked at the source, you should have seen the following comment immediately preceding the adding of the footer. # BAW: This is not strictly conformant RFC 1153. The trailer is only # supposed to contain two lines, i.e. the End of ...

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman violates RFC 1153?

2011-11-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Nov 07, 2011, at 10:39 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote: I have raised as much of a clamor as I intended to. I just hate the way that VM does that is not in my mind a legitimate reason to violate the RFC. If you agree, then you can create your own bug report and fix it. If you disagree, then there's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer as attachment in Outlook problem.

2011-10-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 20, 2011, at 12:13 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I don't think Mailman 3 will be any different in this respect. The issue is as presented in the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/84A9. Mailman 3 will work exactly the same way, for all the reasons Mark described. AFAICT, there's really no better

Re: [Mailman-Users] Are Mailman's files sparse?

2011-08-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Aug 14, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Ivan Fetch wrote: As part of copying our Mailman data from one box to another, I wanted to verify: are any of Mailman's data files, sparse, E.G the .pck files and other files in the data directory? It looks to me like the answer to this is no. Correct. -Barry

[Mailman-Users] wiki.list.org license has been renewed

2011-07-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
I think I've managed to get our Confluence license renewed, so those of you with write privileges to wiki.list.org should be able to save pages again. If not, please let me know. I haven't heard much about the Moin conversion lately, but hopefully that will happen before the next time our

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Announce] wiki.list.org license has been renewed

2011-07-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 29, 2011, at 09:23 AM, Bradley Dean wrote: On 29/07/11 04:56, Barry Warsaw wrote: I haven't heard much about the Moin conversion lately, but hopefully that will happen before the next time our license runs out. Still working through it - sorry it's taking longer than hoped

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman NameError: global name '_' is not defined

2011-06-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 07, 2011, at 07:53 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: It appears that Red Hat has implemented a Mailman.i18n.C_ function that is not in standard GNU Mailman and are using it here instead of the standard Mailman.i18n._ function. Does anyone know why they would do that? -Barry signature.asc

Re: [Mailman-Users] PHP front-end for Mailman?

2011-06-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 01, 2011, at 01:54 PM, Glenn Sieb wrote: But it would *seriously* be awesome if Mailman could have, I dunno, plugins for the lack of a better word, where you *could* extend Mailman into more of a YG arena if you choose to. I agree that this would be very cool. I'd love to see MM3 as part

Re: [Mailman-Users] Detecting mail with multiple From: lines

2011-05-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 24, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Barry Warsaw writes: What's the legitimate use case for multiple From headers? Technically, there is none. RFC 5322 requires exactly one From field, and that's that. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5322.txt, table in section 3.6. (Resent

Re: [Mailman-Users] Detecting mail with multiple From: lines

2011-05-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 23, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Jay A. Sekora wrote: However, that means that as more spammers use this technique, either sites are going to have to start blocking mail with multiple From: addresses at SMTP time -- and I discovered to my surprise that we *do* have legitimate senders using that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Tangent: Exporting information from Mailman to the MTA

2011-05-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 23, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Jay A. Sekora wrote: That reminds me of something I've sort of been wishing for for a bit, which would be the ability to expose arbitrary new list-specific variables to list admins which would be stored in the list pickle. In MM3, there are no pickles. Everything

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASED: Mailman 3.0 alpha 7

2011-04-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 30, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: Now, on my FreeBSD 8.2 Server, I am eager to try this version out. I am following the steps. #bin/test -vv [snip] test_simple_wrap (mailman.utilities.tests.test_wrap.TestWrap) test_two_paragraphs

[Mailman-Users] Call for volunteers: convert wiki to Moin

2011-04-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
For many years, Atlassian has provided the GNU Mailman project with free (as in beer) wiki hosting on their proprietary platform. This has included a free license, free hosting, and free support. We are very grateful to them for this, as our wiki contains lots of useful information that help

[Mailman-Users] RELEASED: Mailman 3.0 alpha 7

2011-04-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
I am very happy to announce the release of the seventh alpha for Mailman 3.0, code named Mission. Here are some of the highlights of a release with lots of new stuff (a more detailed NEWS.txt file excerpt is below). * Significant improvements to the subscription model. Users can now subscribe

[Mailman-Users] GNU Mailman in the 2011 Google Summer of Code

2011-03-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hi everyone, We're going to be participating in the Google Summer of Code again this year, but this time, under the Python Software Foundation's banner. Here's our wiki page for GSoC ideas, mentors, and students: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Google+Summer+of+Code+2011 and the PSF page with

Re: [Mailman-Users] python 3 and mailman 2.1.12

2011-03-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 17, 2011, at 04:23 PM, Hal Huntley wrote: Or is 2.1.14 compatible with python 3? No. Mailman 3 will be ported to Python 3 when its dependency stack has been ported. Right now, some of the Zope packages are blockers. Cheers, -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[Mailman-Users] Wiki downtime

2011-01-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
Our hosting provider is going to upgrade our wiki instance. There may be a short amount of downtime. Apologies for any inconvenience. -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] Does mailman support the Archived-At header (RFC-5064)

2010-12-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 15, 2010, at 09:39 AM, Randy Kramer wrote: I'm asking if mailman can be set up so it will calculate the required header (hash of the message ID or whatever) and insert it in a post before distributing the post to the list? I've tried googling and searching things like the NEWS file

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman 2.1.14 new features

2010-10-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 20, 2010, at 01:53 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote: It appears that 'official' Mailman packages for lenny are a wee bit behind upstream. I believe others on this list use the Umbungo packages on lenny (Debian 5), without too many difficulties. YMMV. (I don't really have the time to take on

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Announce] Mailman security patch.

2010-09-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 09, 2010, at 06:46 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: The patch is attached. Since it only affects the web CGIs, it can be applied and will be effective without restarting Mailman, although since it includes a patch to Utils.py which is imported by the qrunners, a restart of Mailman is advisable as

Re: [Mailman-Users] Icons

2010-07-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 17, 2010, at 02:40 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote: # Logos: Alias /images/mailman/ /usr/share/images/mailman/ For Ubuntu 10.04 (haven't checked Debian), it looks like this is a better alias: Alias /doc/mailman/images/ /usr/share/images/mailman/ -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP

[Mailman-Users] We have a winner!

2010-05-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
I am very pleased to announce the winner of the 2010 GNU Mailman logo contest. By an almost 2-to-1 margin, you voted for this logo: http://www.list.org/images/logo2010.jpg Congratulations Andrija Arsic! A little bit about Andrija: originally from Trstenik, Serbia and now studying IT technology

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