Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting Spam from Banned Address

2011-05-03 Thread Henry Hartley
On 5/3/2011 1:17 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> 菊地時夫 writes:
> 
>   >  No.  He put the address in discard_these_nonmembers on the
>   >  private/sender page but not have mentioned the private/spam settings.
>   >
>   >  I believe if you set the spam address in header_filter_rules of
>   >  privacy/spam page, the message should be discarded even if other
>   >  legitimate addresses are listed in from header.
> 
> Ah, OK.  He still should consider setting it to 'hold' for a trial
> period; the risk of accidentally discarding a real post is pretty high
> here IMO.  But that's something he can judge better than we can.

Yes, putting a regular expression in header_filter_rules seems like a
good solution. As Mr. Turnbull suggests, I set that rule to Hold for
now, to see if it catches anything unintended. But this has the
advantage of being list specific, rather than affecting all lists. Any
mail that has the non-allowed address anywhere in the from field should
be deleted. The user has said that he does not (ever) send mail from
that address so it should not be a problem. Thanks, both of you, for
your help.

I suppose I should have said, this is mailman 2.1.9 on CentOS 5.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting Spam from Banned Address

2011-05-02 Thread Henry Hartley

On 5/2/2011 11:05 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Henry Hartley wrote:


possibly a setting that says "all From addresses must be on the list".


Perhaps that would be useful, but it doesn't currently exist.


Or at the least something that says if a specifically banned address is 
in the From field, then don't allow it. That might be simpler to 
impliment, and is more likely to always be the right thing to do.



If this is your Mailman installation, you could try putting

SENDER_HEADERS = (None,)

in mm_cfg.py. This would say that the post is considered to be from a
member only if the envelope sender is a member.


I've done this. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll report back if that 
doesn't solve the problem but it seems like it should. It occurs to me 
that this is site-wide, however. Is that right? I have a half dozen 
lists so now does this apply to all of them? They are all small and it's 
probably OK, but I should know.


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[Mailman-Users] Getting Spam from Banned Address

2011-05-02 Thread Henry Hartley
I have a list that started getting a lot of spam from a particular 
address. Most of them get sent to moderation because of "Too many 
recipients" and they are easily dealt with.


The address in question was an alternate address for one member and 
after speaking with him, we decided it would be OK to take the address 
off the list completely. I have done so but continue to receive spam 
from that address. The list has generic_nonmember_action set to discard 
but the messages continue to come in, although they still mostly go to 
moderation rather than the list. But I don't see how they are getting 
there. I tried adding the address to discard_these_nonmembers but that, 
too, seems to have no effect.


Looking at the header of one of the message, however, and I see that 
although they show up as From that single banned address, there are 
multiple addresses in the From field. At least one other of the 
addresses is a valid list address. I assume that as long as at least one 
From address is valid, mailman will let it through the gate. Is that 
right? Should there be some setting to only let in mail with a single 
From address? I can't see any reason to allow multiple From values. Or 
possibly a setting that says "all From addresses must be on the list".


Or am I missing something?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] moving mailman lists to new server, same domain name

2010-01-04 Thread Henry Hartley

On 1/2/2010 10:04 PM, Andrew Watson wrote:

#<  #5.0.0 X-Postfix; host mysite.com[128.xxx.xxx.xxx] said: 553
5.3.0... User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command)>
#SMTP#


I ran newaliases. Same result.
The alias hs does appear in the /etc/mail/aliases:


Look in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc for how ALIAS_FILE is defined and be sure 
it's defined as being /etc/mail/aliases. On my setup it's simply 
/etc/aliases so a file in /etc/mail would have no effect.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating Lists

2009-08-18 Thread Henry Hartley
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:22:02AM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Is Mailman running (service mailman start or however you start it on
> your machine)?

See, I knew it was going to be something stupid that I forgot. I feel like an 
idiot. Thanks for your time.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Migrating Lists

2009-08-18 Thread Henry Hartley
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:01:35AM +0300, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> 08/18/2009 05:31 AM, Henry Hartley:
> >When I send mail to a list, however, it seems to go into a black hole. I 
> >get no response that there was a problem delivering the mail, the server's 
> >maillog shows that the message was received by the server, but the mail 
> >never seems to go out to the list. There is no message in the 
> >mailman/errors log.
> 
> /etc/aliases?
> I sawa no mention of it in your post...

No, I remembered that part. Aliases are set correctly.

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[Mailman-Users] Migrating Lists

2009-08-18 Thread Henry Hartley
I have recently had a partial hard drive failure on my server. I installed 
CentOS 5.3 on a new hard drive and copied what I could from the old drive to 
the new, including, I think, everything that Mailman needs.

I can get into the web admin interface for my lists, see the various settings 
for them, see the archives, etc.

When I send mail to a list, however, it seems to go into a black hole. I get no 
response that there was a problem delivering the mail, the server's maillog 
shows that the message was received by the server, but the mail never seems to 
go out to the list. There is no message in the mailman/errors log.

Any suggestions of what to check would be most appreciated.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] question

2009-07-25 Thread Henry Hartley

K Wagner wrote:


Could you please tell me how to delete one of my mailing lists?


See rmlist

http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/site.html

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[Mailman-Users] Dealing with spam

2009-05-26 Thread Henry Hartley
I have a few small, private lists managed with Mailman. For the most 
part, I don't have problems with spam, probably aided by the fact that 
they are both small and private. Lately, however, on one list (about two 
dozen addresses) I'm getting spam that has valid users as the From: 
address. My first thought was that the users' machines were being used 
as spam bots but at least one uses my server as it's mail server and 
these messages are coming from other servers. So, it seems that their 
address is being spoofed and being used to sent mail to the list (even 
though it isn't advertised).


For the most part, messages are coming with implicit destination so I 
can simply discard them but occasionally they come directly to the list 
and are not filtered. I have two questions:


1) What is the best practice approach to dealing with these messages? I 
have simply been discarding them. If I reject them, will that send a 
response back that might make an automated sender drop my list address 
from their list as a non-working address? Or is that wishful thinking?


2) Is there some way to automatically reject or discard mail with 
implicit destination rather than holding it for moderation? The users of 
this particular list do not (ever) intentionally use an implicit 
destination so I wouldn't mind just automating that. There doesn't seem 
to be a setting on the Recipient Filters page of Privacy options.


Thanks.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Linux Preferred?

2009-01-31 Thread Henry Hartley

On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 09:07 -0600, Tim Ferguson wrote:
> Is there a preferred flavor of Linux that Mailman seems to work and
> install the best with?  I'm trying Ubuntu, but the apt-get feature is
> getting hung up on trying to find the repositories and can't, so,
> until I get that fixed I just thought I'd ask.

At the risk of being different... I run a number of small lists on 
CentOS 5 (based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5) and it just worked out of 
the box. It's not bleeding edge but then I get security patches into 2014.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] welcome message

2008-12-17 Thread Henry Hartley

Joe Damico wrote:


We would like to make some slight modification to the Mailman welcome
message for new subscribers at our location.  Where is this message
located and if it is in Python code, how do we go about changing the
text?


If you just want to change the first paragraph of that message, it's 
done through the regular web interface. On the General Options page, a 
little more than half way down is an entry for "List-specific text 
prepended to new-subscriber welcome message (Details for welcome_msg).


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Re: [Mailman-Users] One member has already lost his password [was:Passwords]

2008-09-19 Thread Henry Hartley

Rachel Mawhood wrote:

Actually, he should go the the options login screen at
http://www.example.com/mailman/options/list_name and enter his email
address at the top and click Remind at the bottom.


That URL is serving a 404.


Yes, well, you weren't actually meant to click on that link in your 
email. You need to replace "www.example.com" with the proper host name 
for your server and replace "list_name" with the name of the particular 
list you're dealing with. Or is that what you tried?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Disable monthly membership reminder

2008-06-02 Thread Henry Hartley

Bill Honneus (honneus) wrote:

Anyone know how I can disable the monthly membership reminder email that
gets sent out to all members of a mailing list? 


On the General Options page, under Notifications (about half way down), 
the first setting is "Send monthly password reminders?"  I assume that's 
what you mean.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer_msg

2007-03-29 Thread Henry Hartley
Justin Denick wrote:
>> 
>> what is the code I need to add to have the UNSUBSCRIBE link appear
>> at the bottom of the messages?

Through the web interface, click on "Non-digest options" and put the
code in the field labelled "Footer added to mail sent to regular list
members".  The default is the following:
___
%(real_name)s mailing list
%(real_name)[EMAIL PROTECTED](host_name)s
%(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s

As for editing the configuration files directly, I don't know except
this same text is in /etc/mailman/sitelist.cfg

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