Re: [Mailman-Users] All my lists quit working!

2015-01-14 Thread Larry Stone
On Jan 13, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Jan Steinman j...@ecoreality.org wrote: Thanks for your suggestions and help! From: Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com Log entries please. It never gets as far as Mailman. No log info occurs in mailman/error or mailman/qrunner. This is what shows

Re: [Mailman-Users] All my lists quit working!

2015-01-08 Thread Larry Stone
(-o) on your smtpd entry. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re-formatting messages

2014-07-17 Thread Larry Stone
have control over - so, if there's a way to do this that needs root access then I'd like to know that too, because that's plan C. See above - I think plan C is the way to go. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can Someone Explain This?

2014-05-09 Thread Larry Stone
it. Ibiblio.org has Mailman installed incorrectly. They need to install it correctly. This problem affects all lists managed by this Mailman installation so I assume you have also not been receiving any postings from this list. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] 2.1.18 internal documentation suggestions

2014-04-30 Thread Larry Stone
compatibility is important too (even if it’s not to most large computer companies :-( ). -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails from yahoo members, are getting rejected by yahoo, Service Unavailable.

2014-04-14 Thread Larry Stone
=reject. Even if that were the case, which it is not, SPF should pass - since typically the list is the envelope sender. To what are you saying “Yes”? With what are you agreeing? — Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on OS X, launchctl

2014-03-02 Thread Larry Stone
no way to monitor them. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newsletter Blast sending duplicates to subscribers

2014-01-08 Thread Larry Stone
you say it only happens with Yahoo, that it’s a problem in Mailman. Rather, it’s happening after Mailman is done with the message so is not a Mailman problem per se. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachment size?

2013-12-10 Thread Larry Stone
in an appropriate forum for that MTA. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mountain Lion server trouble

2013-03-29 Thread Larry Stone
attempt on a test system, not sure I want to try to move my server beyond Lion. Apple has changed way too much in Mountain Lion - compatibility with previous OS versions is just not in Apple's goals (and it's the mail server piece that has stopped me - never even got to Mailman). -- Larry Stone

Re: [Mailman-Users] again postfix+aliases+virtual_domains

2012-12-16 Thread Larry Stone
(as stated above) that are just as valid here. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman needs 20 seconds to complete per email

2012-12-03 Thread Larry Stone
Missing the most important thing which is a Postfix log. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ On Dec 3, 2012, at 3:27 AM, Karsten Becker karsten.bec...@ecologic.eu wrote: On 12/03/2012 07:16 AM, Stefan Foerster wrote: 1. postconf -n output, as well

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman needs 20 seconds to complete per email

2012-12-03 Thread Larry Stone
is in Mailman or Postfix. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman needs 20 seconds to complete per email

2012-12-03 Thread Larry Stone
the resolved hostname, I'm thinking at the end. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman needs 20 seconds to complete per email

2012-12-02 Thread Larry Stone
incoming Postfix port (e.g. 20025) that is exclusively for mail from Mailman being injected to Postfix. Configure it appropriately so that only lcoalhost or whatever other local hosts need it can use it. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] timeout settings?

2012-09-26 Thread Larry Stone
I'd like to suggest that no one provide Mr. Cook any assistance. Since I helped answer a question of his some months ago, mycoachonline.com has been a persistent spam source on my server. The most recent piece of spam from his company was received 11 hours ago. -- Larry Stone lston

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL redacts user addresses even with VERP and full personalization enabled

2012-06-18 Thread Larry Stone
subscriber. As I said, that AOL user has violated my terms and I am entitled to deal with that violation. If AOL were to ever call me on it, I'll worry about that then. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] more questions about Yahoo feedback loop and abuse complaints

2012-06-16 Thread Larry Stone
(and in typical AOLuser fashion, denied clicking the button - and he used to work for AOL!). -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] more questions about Yahoo feedback loop and abuse complaints

2012-06-16 Thread Larry Stone
, a something sent to this list marked as spam will show it as sent from mailman-users+redac...@python.org. I trace then from message ID and matching to my Postfix logs. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] more questions about Yahoo feedback loop and abuse complaints

2012-06-16 Thread Larry Stone
On Jun 16, 2012, at 5:20 PM, David d...@fiteyes.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com wrote: On Jun 16, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: * David d...@fiteyes.com: Is there any method

Re: [Mailman-Users] looking for correct doc for configure

2012-06-04 Thread Larry Stone
On Jun 3, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Larry Stone wrote: On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:09 AM, H wrote: All, Pretty new to Mailman, trying to install it and looking for the correct documentation to go with mailman-3.0.0b1 MHO, if you're new to Mailman, you should not be looking at 3.0 yet. 3.0.0b1

Re: [Mailman-Users] looking for correct doc for configure

2012-06-03 Thread Larry Stone
-architected Mailman 3. Stick to the latest Mailman 2.1 production release (2.1.14) which is well documented, debugged, and supported. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sevier Issue with mails, are these compromised?

2012-05-14 Thread Larry Stone
. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable

Re: [Mailman-Users] confirmation string is not working

2012-05-08 Thread Larry Stone
Then check mm_cfg.py and make sure PENDING_REQUEST_LIFE hasn't been set to something ridiculously short. While Mark stated that the default is 3 days, we have no idea what your installation's setting for it is. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ On May 8

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman stop working...help!

2012-04-22 Thread Larry Stone
about Postfix. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security

Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting Up Mailman

2012-04-18 Thread Larry Stone
the one I know and use), I have not given you all the needed vi commands to create the file. If you merely typed the lines I said need to be be in the file without any vi commands, you did not end up with the file you need. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting Up Mailman

2012-04-18 Thread Larry Stone
: cd /var/root ls -l *mailman* cat *mailman*.sh cd /Library/LaunchDaemons cat mailman.plist The start obviously failed but any output from it should be logged in /var/log/system.log. Try: grep -i mailman /var/log/system.log and include any output returned. -- Larry Stone lston

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in2.1.11

2012-03-28 Thread Larry Stone
have to go through several messages to find the information you've dribbled out to us in multiple messages. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem creating mailing lists via webinterface in2.1.11

2012-03-28 Thread Larry Stone
thought unknown virtual host was the error being returned to someone trying to post. I do not recall you ever saying that was the error the web interface was returning. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newer postfix: unused parameter: mailman_destination_recipient_limit=1

2012-03-10 Thread Larry Stone
a Postfix transport named mailman that ties it to GNU Mailman. So this is really a Postfix issue, not a Mailman issue. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newer postfix: unused parameter: mailman_destination_recipient_limit=1

2012-03-09 Thread Larry Stone
is a Postfix parameter that is specific to the named transport. If you don't have a transport named mailman, then mailman_transport_destination_recipient is indeed unused. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] can I use a mailman list address as a (qmail)sender address?

2012-02-07 Thread Larry Stone
probably don't need such checks. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy

Re: [Mailman-Users] can I use a mailman list address as a (qmail)sender address?

2012-02-07 Thread Larry Stone
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Larry Stone writes: Why do you want to reply to email addressed to the list as the list rather than as you. That is not the way lists are normally used (e.g. I am replying to mail sent to this list as myself, not as the list). Yup. But he

Re: [Mailman-Users] Thoughts about migrating to Mailman instead of Sympa (from Majordomo)

2012-01-20 Thread Larry Stone
needs, use easy-to-guess passwords, write them down, and other things that just make Mailman's password concerns the least of your organization's security concerns. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to turn off plain text passwords?

2011-11-02 Thread Larry Stone
a password you don't care about (by default, Mailman generates random passwords. I don't even bother to save them as I know I can recover it easily in the unlikely event I actually ever need it). -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem with Mailman on Mac OS X Snow Leopard client

2011-10-11 Thread Larry Stone
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011, Graham Young wrote: Mail generated by Mailman hangs in my dedicated, on-board MTA's queue unless I remove a certain bit of custom Postfix configuration that I entered following instructions kindly posted here by one Larry Stone. I guess I'm best to answer this. The bit

Re: [Mailman-Users] Blocked By Earthlink

2011-06-20 Thread Larry Stone
satisfied Speakeast.net DSL customer). -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.

2011-04-18 Thread Larry Stone
On 4/18/11 1:53 AM, JRC Groups at joemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: I have read the page and also contacted Larry Stone. His instructions are for installation on OS X client and not OS X Server. I haven't found instructions on how to remove the Mailman version bundled by Apple with OS X Server

Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman domain and OS X serverset-up.

2011-04-03 Thread Larry Stone
unmodified version from source will give you, on OS X Server, the same as those of on Client have. Going through the process yourself will teach you far more than having someone do it for you. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Question about Mailman domain and OS X serverset-up.

2011-03-30 Thread Larry Stone
of on Client have. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Re: [Mailman-Users] Explicit destination causes implicit destination bounce

2011-03-11 Thread Larry Stone
with . on a line by itself Subject:Testing from guinevere 3 This is a message 3 . 250 OK id=1Py3ZU-0003YI-Rz QUIT 221 server closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Explicit destination causes implicitdestination bounce

2011-03-11 Thread Larry Stone
(I do it to make sure the anti-spam controls on the commands works since that's hard to do by other means) but unless you are prepared to type everything in painful detail, expect weird results. Mailman is best tested with real messages sent by a proper MUA. -- Larry Stone lston

Re: [Mailman-Users] does mailman ever automatically delete an expired email address?

2011-03-10 Thread Larry Stone
bounce processing is on by default. This is, in general, a good thing as excessive sending to dead addresses is a good way to get yourself on some of the anti-spam blacklists. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users

Re: [Mailman-Users] Missing password reminders

2011-01-12 Thread Larry Stone
don't see it being accepted, then determine where things are failing on your system. Is Mailman giving it to the mail server (Postfix on a Macintosh)? Once Postfix has it, Mailman has done its job. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman list sends but doesn't receive mail.

2010-12-08 Thread Larry Stone
). -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is Mailman right for us?

2010-07-21 Thread Larry Stone
Mailman is a free product. Install it and see if it does what you need it to do. The FAQ (a link to it is at the bottom of every message on this list) can answer a lot of your questions including some HOW-TOs and installation guides. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription Confirmation to Welcome Delay

2010-05-25 Thread Larry Stone
not that, you will need to look at your logs (both mailman and the mail server) to figure out where the delay is being introduced. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org

[Mailman-Users] Snow Leoparrd (MacOS X 10.6) CLIENT installation steps for Mailman (CORRECTED)

2010-05-01 Thread Larry Stone
to use. Read the documentation in your source directory for instructions on setting up your mailing lists. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman vs OSX vs launchd

2010-04-28 Thread Larry Stone
I know, I'm reopening a ten month old thread. But I think I have a good workaround. On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: --On 26. Juni 2009 20:22:13 +0900 Matthias Schmidt b...@admilon.net wrote: Am/On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:22:02 -0500 schrieb/wrote Larry Stone: On 6/18/09 7:11 PM

[Mailman-Users] Snow Leoparrd (MacOS X 10.6) CLIENT installation steps for Mailman

2010-04-28 Thread Larry Stone
. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Site password not functioning

2010-04-01 Thread Larry Stone
installing the update this weekend). -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy

Re: [Mailman-Users] List Limitations

2010-03-04 Thread Larry Stone
+ names, can the current system handle something of that size? Mailman can easily handle a list of that size. If you are to have an issue, it will be with your computer's resources (memory, disk space, etc.) and/or Internet bandwidth. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Macs Mailman software

2010-02-23 Thread Larry Stone
to Leopard. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam filtering

2010-02-17 Thread Larry Stone
servers can SEND mail for the domain. While in many cases, they are the same servers, there is no requirement that they be so and many large ISPs split the functions. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions

2010-02-09 Thread Larry Stone
. Please do not refer to a GNU Mailman list as a listserv or use listserv as a generic term for mailing lists or mailing list management software. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing

Re: [Mailman-Users] closing account

2010-02-01 Thread Larry Stone
of the system that is sending you these messages. This list is for discussion by Mailman administrators of how to use Mailman. It is not a support list specific to the server that is sending you the messages nor do we have any access to that site. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list

2010-01-26 Thread Larry Stone
and building it (requires Mac OS X Developer Tools), you will be modifying the internal web server on your computer, and you will need to modify system startup files (Mailman runs in the background). In short, you need to be a reasonably skilled system administrator. -- Larry Stone lston

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is There a list member limitation?

2010-01-15 Thread Larry Stone
, you should be able to look in the postfix logs to see what's happening. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is There a list member limitation?

2010-01-15 Thread Larry Stone
...@somewhere.com... Requested mail action not taken: mailbox unavailable (in reply to RCPT TO command)) Jan 13 15:25:00 my-mailserver postfix/smtp[28262]: B405E2D858F -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Dunivan Realtors List

2010-01-14 Thread Larry Stone
the headers and not all do. Also, this list is about the Mailman software itself. We have no access to the site running your list. You need to contact your site administrator about making chnages to your site. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error running bin/mailmanctl restart

2009-12-17 Thread Larry Stone
different name to avoid a conflict), the modifications to the Apache configuration file, and the modifications to the Postfix configuration file for the aliases (all of which should be preserved by any Apple upgrades). -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Paul Kleeberg

Re: [Mailman-Users] Error running bin/mailmanctl restart

2009-12-17 Thread Larry Stone
a reload of the launchd plist for mailman?). So we'd need to see log files as to what's happening. If there's nothing in any logfile (including system.log), then I'd guess the plist was never reloaded. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting ready to try my first install of mailman on OS-X

2009-12-07 Thread Larry Stone
on my upgrade to Leopard. The Tiger instructions can be found in the archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg33402.html. A search will let you find the Panther instructions and Leopard notes if you need those. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Taking a stab at Mailman on Mac OS X

2009-11-26 Thread Larry Stone
On 11/26/09 12:12 AM, Larry Stone at lston...@stonejongleux.com wrote: Also, search the archives as I have posted detailed instructions on installing Mailman on Mac OS X. There is a version for Tiger (10.4) I posted on 7/17/05. Now that I had time to do the search myself, the URL is http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Taking a stab at Mailman on Mac OS X

2009-11-25 Thread Larry Stone
Mailman on Mac OS X. There is a version for Tiger (10.4) I posted on 7/17/05. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature request: Emergency Broadcast

2009-11-22 Thread Larry Stone
on Max OS X. While Apple provides a modified version with OS X Server, it is easy to install from source on OS X client and instructions to do so can be found in the Archived. I am currently running Mailman 2.1.12 on Leopard (on a PPC iMac not that that will make any difference). -- Larry Stone lston

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman current version?

2009-11-18 Thread Larry Stone
working version. With Mailman, wait for an official production release as it will come when everything is ready. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman vs OSX vs launchd

2009-06-26 Thread Larry Stone
On 6/26/09 6:22 AM, Matthias Schmidt at b...@admilon.net wrote: Am/On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:22:02 -0500 schrieb/wrote Larry Stone: On 6/18/09 7:11 PM, Bryan Harrison at br...@bryanharrison.com wrote: I've built and installed Mailman 2.12 from current source code and have it running just

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman vs OSX vs launchd

2009-06-26 Thread Larry Stone
to interpret that relative to what mailmanctl does. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman vs OSX vs launchd

2009-06-18 Thread Larry Stone
and send me e-mail if any or all are missing. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http

Re: [Mailman-Users] mail to non-existing list - Part two

2009-04-24 Thread Larry Stone
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Jeff Bernier wrote: I have tested this by just making up names on-the-fly like nolist, or xyzlist, and get this result every time. Sounds like you have a catchall address pointing to the Mailman list address. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] MMDSR Question

2009-02-15 Thread Larry Stone
running on Mac OS X but as I recall, I made a lot of changes to it to both make it work and have it do what I wanted it to do. There were definitely some syntax changes and, I think, some binary file location differences to be to be accommodated. -- Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce handling is not user-friendly.

2008-09-11 Thread Larry Stone
error 2) mail being bounced by a spam filter 3) Auto-replies from your mail program back to the sender I'm sure there are others. How well they'll be recognized by the mailman bounce processor partially depends on certain list configuration options. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Users] changes at aol

2008-08-13 Thread Larry Stone
automatically, in a folder that you never go look in. Why even receive them at that point? They're little more than spam themselves so maybe it's time to ban all mail from AOL as AOL will then be a known spammer. :-( -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] changes at aol

2008-08-13 Thread Larry Stone
Aug 2008 11:02:45 -0400 (EDT) That's not a Message ID, that's a queue ID. And yes, I do the same thing. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade questions - Best method suggestions requested

2008-07-16 Thread Larry Stone
. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription

2008-07-10 Thread Larry Stone
the traditional mailing list model. And by the way, I also do run a few traditional lists and they are very much confirmed opt-in. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org

Re: [Mailman-Users] slightly OT: on not becoming a spam source

2008-05-30 Thread Larry Stone
signs in the return paths. When you then get the AOL TOS e-mail, you can figure out who the list recipient was as while AOL redacts the AOL recipient, they don't touch the Return-Path. As you have observed, the original message-ID is still preserved. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Mailman-Users] slightly OT: on not becoming a spam source

2008-05-30 Thread Larry Stone
split it into all the destinations. With personalization, the message for each user comes to the MTA as a separate message. One of the tradeoffs of personalization is the increased workload for Mailman and the MTA. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Users] sharing administrator passwords

2008-05-29 Thread Larry Stone
into the other lists. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw

Re: [Mailman-Users] slightly OT: on not becoming a spam source

2008-05-29 Thread Larry Stone
You also need OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes Once you do that, the personalization option will appear on the appropriate admin page. You will probably need to restart httpd for it to appear. I doubt restarting the qrunners will be needed. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Users] sharing administrator passwords

2008-05-28 Thread Larry Stone
to the site password test and there never sets the site admin cookie. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ

Re: [Mailman-Users] slightly OT: on not becoming a spam source

2008-05-28 Thread Larry Stone
them with them as the To: recipient. That also lets me know who to remove when they decide that the easiest way to let me know that they're no longer interested in being notified of available games is to do a report as spam. :-( -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounces and disk quota exceeded

2008-04-09 Thread Larry Stone
(s) were big enough to put him over quota (e.g. member has 10,000 bytes available; 100,000 byte list message is rejected but 1,000 byte you are disabled message is accepted). -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing mm_cfg.py for existing lists

2008-04-08 Thread Larry Stone
affects messages given to sendmail after you made the change. Anything already in sendmail's outgoing queue from before you made the change is not affected by the change as Mailman is no further involvement with the message at that point. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ongoing delivery issues - First Yahoo, now AOL

2008-03-09 Thread Larry Stone
having them change the reverse DNS on my address to my domain name, something that makes spam detection software happier. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo

2008-02-20 Thread Larry Stone
and Yahoo will see several messages each addresses to one recipient rather than one message addressed to multiple recipients. Unfortunately, when a recipient chooses to use a free e-mail service, they get what they're paying for. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] bots subscribing to lists via web forms to avoidmember-only restrictions

2008-01-06 Thread Larry Stone
. I even found one I couldn't get right after half a dozen tries. I gave up. Their loss. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriptions being disabled

2007-12-26 Thread Larry Stone
for 5.0. With bounce processing turned on, you don't get notified until the bounce threshold is exceeded. Until then, the bounces get logged in the Mailman bounce log but that's it. So all of them have bounced five times before you were notified. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Users] Making sure MailMan is running...

2007-12-13 Thread Larry Stone
the command sendmail (for Sendmail compatibility) as a means of injecting mail. Note also that as written, the mail message will be missing all RFC required headers but as it's going to myself, I don't care. You could, of course, do something else there to provide notification. -- Larry Stone

Re: [Mailman-Users] Shameless plug

2007-11-19 Thread Larry Stone
actually didn't think was possible. :-( In their attempt to make it unreadable by machines, they've succeeded in making it unreadable by humans. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python 2.5.1

2007-11-12 Thread Larry Stone
). -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mac OS X Leopard upgrade experience

2007-10-30 Thread Larry Stone
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Larry Stone wrote: 5) Startup is intermittently(?) failing due to what seems to be a Leopard, not mailman, issue. I'm not at all sure what that Stray process message means and have not turned up anything useful in a web search. Oct 29 07:36:46 Leoptest mailman[56

[Mailman-Users] Mac OS X Leopard upgrade experience

2007-10-29 Thread Larry Stone
in the mailman logs but unless I'm mistaken, the Starting Mailman's ... message comes from mailmanctl so mailmanctl is launching but then dying with that Stray process error. The Leopard provided version of Python 2.5.1 and I have mailman 2.1.9. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Mailman-Users] Limit to the Number of Subscribers for each list?

2007-08-29 Thread Larry Stone
that phplist doesn't have the problems mailman does. Other reasons? Misconfiguration by them; resource limits they've applied. Who knows other than them. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Limit to the Number of Subscribers for eachlist?

2007-08-29 Thread Larry Stone
384Kbps upstream is adequate. Until a few months ago, that iMac was also my main desktop machine. While it's now a dedicated server, there's nothing about Mailman and whatever MTA you use that requires them to be on a dedicated server - they'll be quite happy to chug along in the background. -- Larry

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Larry Stone
? :-) -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Larry Stone
On 7/14/07 12:42 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, As Larry Stone mentioned, just put something in the headers and footers of every message, which tells AOL users that they will have their entire domain permanently banned from the list, if you get too many spam

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Larry Stone
it's the one piece of header info that isn't redacted at this point. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification

2007-07-14 Thread Larry Stone
On 7/14/07 8:26 PM, Brad Knowles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/14/07, Larry Stone wrote: # [EMAIL PROTECTED] banned for AOL TOS notice - 10/20/05 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 554 You have previously reported requested mail from here as SPAM - you are banned from this server (see

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