Re: [Mailman-Users] Debugging question
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 07:54:33AM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: See http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9. Thanks Mark. I hadn't found that page. That was plenty to fix it. I'd looked at the wiki without finding that. Maybe it's because the Site Administrator Tasks page it's linked from is an unordered hodge-podge. Maybe I didn't find it because debugging an install seemed like something that would be included in Downloading and Installing, or Integration Issues. Since Downloading and Installing and Integration Issues are also tasks for the site administrator, would it make better sense to also break out sections on Debugging, Site Upgrades, and perhaps Mods? Or maybe to fold thse all under Site Administrator Tasks but have that all subsectioned logically, rather than a mostly-random list? I know - it's a wiki and presumably I could jump in and rearrange stuff. I'd do that, if there's a sense that it's appropriate and no one with real expertise on Mailman wants to take it on. Best, Whit -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Debugging question
Okay, after an old Gentoo server died that was running mailman happily for years with sendmail, I rebuilt things on Ubuntu using a stock postfix with a custom-compiled mailman. The web interface all looks fine - the lists and their users are there - and the aliases are in place. But mail coming in disappears without an error message to tell me why. For instance: Mar 31 10:37:13 green postfix/local[28766]: 4E92B17FBEA: to=xyz-annou...@mm.xyz.org, relay=local, delay=0.45, delays=0.02/0.02/0/0.4, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /web/mailman/mail/mailman post xyz-announce) Nothing happens further. No error message shows in any system log. Now, obviously I've set up something wrong. But how do I get some useful debugging messages so I can get properly clued here? Thanks, Whit -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Gentoo, mailman and the module named paths
Hi, I've done a manual install of mailman on a system running the current Gentoo. mailmanctl start gives the dreaded No module named paths error. I've seen the README.linux attribution of this problem to not having installed Python from tar - but Gentoo's portage system is Python-based, and its Python is a full build of 2.2.3 from tar. I can't find mention of a paths module in any of the ebuilds in Gentoo's dev-python directory (not to be confused with Debian's dev-python .deb). I don't want to reinstall Python manually, because of the risk of somehow throwing the whole Gentoo portage system out of whack. What to do? Thanks, Whit -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Gentoo, mailman and the module named paths
I see that mailman/bin has a paths.py and paths.pyc that are set to 644 rather than 755 like everything else in bin. Changing them to 755 doesn't solve my mailmanctl error problem. But were they installed with the right perms? check_perms doesn't care about these files either way. Whit -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Gentoo, mailman and the module named paths
If I just comment out that paths line in mailmanctl, then it balks on the next line with No module named Mailman. Same if I move the paths.py* files from bin to Mailman and have the paths line be from Mailman import paths. Could my installing mailman in /web/mailman rather than /usr/local/mailman have something to do with it? Whit -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Gentoo, mailman and the module named paths
Thanks Bruce. I see that mailmanctl doesn't throw those errors if I start it from /web/mailman/bin rather than /etc/init.d. (However, I still have a Site list is missing: mailman error to sleuth out.) Where do you run mailmanctl from? Have I missed something on setting a system variable in the INSTALL instructions, that would enable it to work from /etc/init.d as advertised with mailman not installed in the default /usr/local/mailman? Whit On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 02:22:43PM -0400, Bruce Embrey wrote: Whit, I have mine stored in /var/mailman and it works fine. I did have to specified it when I ran configure but other than that it has run quite smoothly. The version I run is 2.1.1. Hope that helps, Bruce Emrbey -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Gentoo, mailman and the module named paths
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 08:34:32PM +0100, Richard Barrett wrote: Where do you run mailmanctl from? Have I missed something on setting a system variable in the INSTALL instructions, that would enable it to work from /etc/init.d as advertised with mailman not installed in the default /usr/local/mailman? The $prefix/scripts/mailman shell script that the INSTALL instructions tells you to use for starting Mailman at startup should have been built correctly by the './configure; make install'. Take a look at its contents to make sure the path declarations are correct. Richard, Yeah, the path declarations are correct. My problem was thinking that it was the mailmanctl script that should go in /etc/init.d, rather than the mailman script. Since the INSTALL instructions only really cover other setups than Gentoo, I wasn't looking closely enough at sections that seemed not to apply. (The mailman script would still need some edits to work right in Gentoo - but invoking mailmanctl in its home location as part of my Gentoo sendmail startup seems to get it going okay.) Oh well Whit -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
