Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman Site Redesign

2008-07-23 Thread Terri Oda

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I've done a bit more work with the site redesign, and updated the  
working content I had.


The latest version is here:

http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/

So, that's using some red/pink from the logo as link colours as  
someone suggested to me.  It looks fine to me on this macbook, but  
I'm at the Ottawa Linux Symposium and don't have my usual array of  
desktops to test from, so someone please let me know if it's  
unreadable.  (I've cc'ed mailman-users to get more eyes.)


Here's one wit the same idea, using darker reds:
http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-dark

And the original two, both beige and gray are here:
http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-orig
http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-alt

More suggestions welcome!

 Terri
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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman Site Redesign

2008-07-23 Thread Brad Knowles

Terri Oda wrote:


The latest version is here:

http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/

So, that's using some red/pink from the logo as link colours as someone 
suggested to me.


I really don't want anyone over-riding my own choices for link colors.


More suggestions welcome!


Did you want to mention the official Mailman group on LinkedIn?  Of course, 
I can't figure out how to give you a link that will take you to their page 
for the group as opposed to the home page that I defined for the group 
(namely www.list.org), but that may be something we can resolve.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman Site Redesign

2008-07-23 Thread Terri Oda

On 23-Jul-08, at 1:22 PM, Brad Knowles wrote:

The latest version is here:
http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/
So, that's using some red/pink from the logo as link colours as  
someone suggested to me.

I really don't want anyone over-riding my own choices for link colors.


The original version I had used the standard link colours (ie - it  
didn't set them), and comments ranged from just general malaise about  
the colour scheme of the links to several people who asserted it was  
nearly unreadable on their setups.  So I'll take the comment under  
advisement, but I suspect you're going to be in the minority.


Since I've since changed the original css, here's the current stuff  
with no link colours specified (so they default to your browser  
settings):


http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-nolink

Did you want to mention the official Mailman group on LinkedIn?  Of  
course, I can't figure out how to give you a link that will take  
you to their page for the group as opposed to the home page that  
I defined for the group (namely www.list.org), but that may be  
something we can resolve.


Seems like a good fit for the Participate page!  I've put it just  
under the wiki entry.


Also, if I can convince launchpad and my laptop to get along, I'll  
share the code for this.  It's currently generating the pages using a  
little python script.  Although honestly, given that there's only 7  
pages here, I think we might as well generate them once and just  
serve up the straight HTML.


 Terri

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman Site Redesign

2008-07-23 Thread Brad Knowles

Terri Oda wrote:

The original version I had used the standard link colours (ie - it 
didn't set them), and comments ranged from just general malaise about 
the colour scheme of the links to several people who asserted it was 
nearly unreadable on their setups.


That implies their client is misconfigured and that should be their problem 
and not ours.  Right?


So I'll take the comment under 
advisement, but I suspect you're going to be in the minority.


I would urge caution about paying too much attention to a vocal minority, to 
the potential detriment of the majority who aren't complaining.


Now, if this was being driven by 508 compliance for accessibility and there 
simply were no other viable options, it would be more difficult for me to 
have grounds for a complaint.  But so far I haven't heard terms like that.


Since I've since changed the original css, here's the current stuff with 
no link colours specified (so they default to your browser settings):


http://terri.zone12.com/mm-website/?css=mailman-nolink


IMO, that looks much better.

Did you want to mention the official Mailman group on LinkedIn?  Of 
course, I can't figure out how to give you a link that will take you 
to their page for the group as opposed to the home page that I 
defined for the group (namely www.list.org), but that may be something 
we can resolve.


Seems like a good fit for the Participate page!  I've put it just 
under the wiki entry.


Cool.  Thanks!

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Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] GNU Mailman Site Redesign

2008-07-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Brad Knowles writes:

  That implies their client is misconfigured and that should be their problem 
  and not ours.  Right?

Actually, all existing clients are pretty much broken, since they
don't allow you to enforce your own CSS.  But I guess they figure that
nearly all existing users are broken, 'cause they can't write their
own CSS   :-(  Grrr.

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