[Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages

2004-08-23 Thread Luis Fernando C. Talora
Friends,

I´m having trouble with out of office autoreply messages sent to some list.
Some users recieved a lot of them, because of some list member who didn´t
know that you must not use out of office messages if you are member of
mailing lists. 

Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message?

Thank you again!

Regards,

Talora





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Re: [Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages

2004-08-23 Thread John W. Baxter
On 8/23/2004 5:55, Luis Fernando C. Talora [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I´m having trouble with out of office autoreply messages sent to some list.
 Some users recieved a lot of them, because of some list member who didn´t
 know that you must not use out of office messages if you are member of
 mailing lists. 

It's not autoresponders generally that are the problem...it is poorly
written ones which don't know how to avoid sending to list messages.  Often
it's people using MUA rules or self-written scripts.

You can try with content filters, but the creators of these bad
autoresponders are endlessly creative.

 
 Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message?
As list owner, you are:  unsubscribe the errant user (or if you insist on
being more gentle, mark the user as Nomail).  Send whatever explanation you
feel is appropriate.

  --John
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages

2004-08-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
Luis Fernando C. Talora wrote:

I´m having trouble with out of office autoreply messages sent to some list.
Some users recieved a lot of them, because of some list member who didn´t
know that you must not use out of office messages if you are member of
mailing lists. 

Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message?


Not in advance as far as I know. After the fact, the list admin can
always disable delivery to the offending user.

Also see
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.006.htp

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages

2004-08-23 Thread David Blomquist
On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 07:55, Luis Fernando C. Talora wrote:
 Friends,
 
 I´m having trouble with out of office autoreply messages sent to some list.
 Some users recieved a lot of them, because of some list member who didn´t
 know that you must not use out of office messages if you are member of
 mailing lists. 
 
 Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message?
 
 Thank you again!
 
 Regards,
 
 Talora


You could set the moderation (mod) bit, under 'Membership Management'
for the offending list member(s) until they turn off their autoreply.  
There is also a spam filter under 'Privacy options' in the admin web
interface.  

David



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages

2004-08-23 Thread Jeff Barger
On Aug 23, 2004, at 8:55 AM, Luis Fernando C. Talora wrote:
Friends,
I´m having trouble with out of office autoreply messages sent to some 
list.
Some users recieved a lot of them, because of some list member who 
didn´t
know that you must not use out of office messages if you are member of
mailing lists.
That's not necessarily so. Properly written auto-responders do not pose 
a threat to mailing lists.

Unfortunately the one people use the most (the one in Outlook/OE) is 
about as broken as they come.

Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message?
You can play around with the spam filtering to catch a lot of these 
messages. IMHO, it's best to just stop munging the Reply-To. See this 
page: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html.

-Jeff

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Block out off office autoreply messages

2004-08-23 Thread Chuq Von Rospach
On Aug 23, 2004, at 8:57 AM, Jeff Barger wrote:
Is Mailman capable of blocking this kind of message?
You can play around with the spam filtering to catch a lot of these 
messages. IMHO, it's best to just stop munging the Reply-To. See this 
page: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html.

true. if you're coercing reply-to, you're funnelling all of that 
traffic onto the list. have fun.

As Jeff noted -- well-behaved vacation bots don't cause a problem, 
because they follow the rules and don't send those messages to lists. 
The ones that don't -- are broken. And trying to stop them up front 
will fail, because they don't follow the rules you could use to catch 
them (because if they do follow the rules, they don't send the 
messages!). since there are an infinite variation of out of ... or 
on vacation or away from... or etc ... ways people write those 
messages, attempting to string-trap them will simply waste endless 
amounts of your time and energy,a dn still fail (leaving you pissed and 
frustrated).

Here's how I suggest handling it. In your list policy docs, make it 
clear that it's a person's responsibility to use vacation bots 
appropriately. my policy is simple: if one shows up on a list, or 
sending vacation notices to a list admin or the listserver, that 
address is unsubscribed. Immediately. no warnings, no followups. Just 
an unsubscribe. it's then the person's responsibiltiy to figure it out 
and subscribe again if they want.

If the same address resubscribes, and then we get MORE vacation notices 
from it, they're unsubscribed and banned. Users are allowed to make one 
mistake and fix it. if they don't, they're not welcome. that gives them 
the responsibility ot fix it, and some motivation to do so. if you 
don't? they won't.

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