Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-07 Thread Steve Matzura
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:17:23 -0700, you wrote: RedHat's /etc/init.d/mailman copies the cron/crontab.in to /etc/cron.d/mailman. So if you start Mailman via 'service mailman start', the crontab in crontab.in will be installed. At least that's the way I *think* it works. Ask RedHat or look at the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-07 Thread Steve Matzura
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:11:40 -0400, Mark wrote: RedHat's /etc/init.d/mailman copies the cron/crontab.in to /etc/cron.d/mailman. So if you start Mailman via 'service mailman start', the crontab in crontab.in will be installed. It's done in the Mailman service definition, which means the crontab

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/06/2015 08:10 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: In your case, the RedHat package has modified Mailman's crontab.in to be a system crontab and already installed it in /etc/cron.d/. It did, but the file is virtually empty

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-06 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: In your case, the RedHat package has modified Mailman's crontab.in to be a system crontab and already installed it in /etc/cron.d/. It did, but the file is virtually empty (only three or four comment lines warning not to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
This should have gone to the list instead of where it went. On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Shapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a place like /etc/cron.d/mailman as a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 09:11:54 -0700, you wrote: On 07/04/2015 08:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 08:27 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 07:45:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: These occur because you have installed a crontab which has been formatted as a system crontab and intended to be installed in a place like /etc/cron.d/mailman as a user

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 06:36 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: I guess things are getting better with my new mailman implementation, as I received nine messages overnight I've never gotten before. four are Errno 13 permission denied, five only contain one line: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found The

Re: [Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 10:19 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: Right. And it was wrong of RH not to tell me that up front, or if it does, it didn't jump up and tell me. Sometimes there's just so much to read and digest, and much of it has to be done after the fact. I'll comb their docs and if it's not

[Mailman-Users] Nightly Messages Show Problems

2015-07-04 Thread Steve Matzura
I guess things are getting better with my new mailman implementation, as I received nine messages overnight I've never gotten before. four are Errno 13 permission denied, five only contain one line: /bin/sh: mailman: command not found The subject fields of these five all begin with the same text