[Mailman-Users] Re: Questions About "An embedded message was scrubbed..."

2023-08-04 Thread Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS 

Mark,

"So is it the case that the message you received contained the actual 
messages and they were only scrubbed in the archive and not in the 
message delivered to List #2 members?  If so, that is a limitation of 
the archiver."


YES.  The issue was this silly.  Thanks for fielding it.  For reasons 
mentioned earlier, I did not spot my error until too late.


Thanks,
-- Michael

*Michael Reeder, LCPC
*
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On 8/4/2023 8:00 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

On 8/4/23 15:55, Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS wrote:

Alright -- This is embarrassing...

I may have outsmarted myself...

I was expecting the message to go to my subfolder for List #2 in my 
Thunderbird email client.  Of course it did not.  I have a separate 
subfolder for List #1.  So it went to List #1's message subfolder 
because List #2 was merely a member receiving the message from List #1.


So is it the case that the message you received contained the actual 
messages and they were only scrubbed in the archive and not in the 
message delivered to List #2 members?


If so, that is a limitation of the archiver.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Questions About "An embedded message was scrubbed..."

2023-08-04 Thread Mark Sapiro 

On 8/4/23 18:07, Richard wrote:


...snip...

So is it the case that the message you received contained the actual 
messages and they were only scrubbed in the archive and not in the 
message delivered to List #2 members?


If so, that is a limitation of the archiver.



Um...

OK, it's not a confirmed archiver issue but... I seem to recall that 
just within the last day we read that Mailman 2 stores the archives "as 
was" in a simple mbox, but Mailman 3 does not: Is this a potential 
Mailman 3 issue?


Mailman 2.1 archives messages in a mbox, but the OP's issue was with the 
web HTML archive which is created from that and the web archive is 
flattened to plain text and all non-plain text parts are stored aside 
and replaced by links.


HyperKitty archives in Mailman 3 are similar in that the plain text 
message content is stored in the database in a hyperkitty_email table 
and non-plain text parts are stored in a hyperkitty_attachment table.


See 
https://mail.python.org/archives/list/hy...@python.org/message/KK6DQWWZEJOGQCF4YNEZUQA3MCBCGQQF/ 
for an example of what this looks like in HyperKitty.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Questions About "An embedded message was scrubbed..."

2023-08-04 Thread Richard 



...snip...

So is it the case that the message you received contained the actual messages 
and they were only scrubbed in the archive and not in the message delivered 
to List #2 members?


If so, that is a limitation of the archiver.



Um...

OK, it's not a confirmed archiver issue but... I seem to recall that just 
within the last day we read that Mailman 2 stores the archives "as was" in 
a simple mbox, but Mailman 3 does not: Is this a potential Mailman 3 
issue?


As a potential Mailman 3 user someday (vs v2 holdout)... did I miss 
something?


Tnx,
R
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Questions About "An embedded message was scrubbed..."

2023-08-04 Thread Mark Sapiro 

On 8/4/23 15:55, Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS wrote:

Alright -- This is embarrassing...

I may have outsmarted myself...

I was expecting the message to go to my subfolder for List #2 in my 
Thunderbird email client.  Of course it did not.  I have a separate 
subfolder for List #1.  So it went to List #1's message subfolder 
because List #2 was merely a member receiving the message from List #1.


So is it the case that the message you received contained the actual 
messages and they were only scrubbed in the archive and not in the 
message delivered to List #2 members?


If so, that is a limitation of the archiver.

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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Questions About "An embedded message was scrubbed..."

2023-08-04 Thread Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS 

Alright -- This is embarrassing...

I may have outsmarted myself...

I was expecting the message to go to my subfolder for List #2 in my 
Thunderbird email client.  Of course it did not.  I have a separate 
subfolder for List #1.  So it went to List #1's message subfolder 
because List #2 was merely a member receiving the message from List #1.


**No need to respond to this one unless I look at it for a day or two 
and still find further issues.**


Time for a beer...

Thanks,
Michael


*Michael Reeder, LCPC
*
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On 8/4/2023 6:35 PM, Michael Reeder -- Hygeia MS wrote:
Apologies if this is too simple for this list -- I have tried looking 
through the online documentation and even this list's archive...


SIMPLE VERSION OF QUESTION:
I'm trying to find out how to stop a list from scrubbing embedded 
messages.


Does it have something to do with content filtering?  ( 
https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/handlers/docs/filtering.html 
)



BACKGROUND:
I have GNU Mailman List #1 that is an announcements only list.  It 
receives multiple emails of multiple rss feeds from blogtrottr.com (an 
RSS feed to email service), collects them, then sends them all out as 
a daily digest.  So essentially it is a GNU Mailman digest of multiple 
Blogtrottr RSS feed digests.


**When List #1 is sent to an individual email address it works fine.**

When sent to a GNU Mailman List #2:
a) The email digest of List #1 NEVER gets emailed to List #2 members
b) The email digest of List #1 DOES appear in the archive of List #2 
as having been sent.
c) In the archive of List #2 -- for each email in the List #1 digest 
-- the message "An embedded message was scrubbed..." appears.


It looks like this in the List #2 archive:

--START MESSAGE--
.
-- next part --
**THIS IS AN ANNOUNCEMENTS-ONLY LIST.**

RSS Feed articles from ACA Counseling Today, APA PsychPort, Healthcare 
Info Security, Health IT Security, NASW Social Workers Speak, NYT 
Psychology & Psychologists, NYU Information for Practice, Scientific 
American Mind & Body, Social Psychology Psychology Headlines, & The 
New Social Worker Careers Magazine.

__
-- next part --
Today's Topics:

   1. Your Daily digest for NYT Psychology & Psychologists Daily
  Digest (Article Digests for Psychology & Social Work)
   2. Your Daily digest for Social Psychology Psychology Headlines
  Daily Digest (Article Digests for Psychology & Social Work)
   3. Confirm your unsubscription from 'NYT > Psychology and
  Psychologists' (Article Digests for Psychology & Social Work)
   4. Your Daily digest for NASW Social Workers Speak Daily Digest
  (Article Digests for Psychology & Social Work)
   5. Your Daily digest for NYU Information for Practice Daily
  Digest (Article Digests for Psychology & Social Work)
-- next part --
An embedded message was scrubbed...
From: Article Digests for Psychology & Social Work
 
Subject: Your Daily digest for NYT Psychology & Psychologists Daily 
Digest

Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 20:08:07 +
Size: 3372
URL: 


-- next part --
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From: Article Digests for Psychology & Social Work
 
Subject: Your Daily digest for Social Psychology Psychology Headlines 
Daily Digest

Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 20:09:05 +
Size: 10905
URL: 


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From: Article Digests for Psychology & Social Work
 
Subject: Confirm your unsubscription from 'NYT > Psychology and 
Psychologists'

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Subject: Your Daily digest for NASW Social Workers Speak Daily Digest
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