[Mailman-Users] Snow Leoparrd (MacOS X 10.6) CLIENT installation steps for Mailman (CORRECTED)
Sorry to take up list space resending this but I caught an error in the Apache configuration section of this (some additional lines needed in Step 4b due to increased security in Apache2 vs. original Apache). === In September 2004, I posted on this topic with instructions for installing mailman on the client version of MacOS X 10.3 (Panther). Later, I updated it for OS X 10.4 (Tiger) as well as notes (but not full instructions) for OS X 10.5 (Leopard). Just recently, I did a test installation on my 10.6 (Snow Leopard) laptop in anticipation of a new desktop to become my new server later this year. In all cases, these were the CLIENT version of Mac OS X (Mac OS X Server comes with a bastardized version of Mailman). So here, once again for purposes of getting it in the archives, are my instructions for installing mailman on MacOS X 10.6.x. With this version, I've made some changes to bring the mailman home directory in line with Mailman standards (i.e. using /usr/local/mailman instead of /Applications/mailman), improved the system startup procedure, and some other miscellaneous cleanup. = Snow Leopard (MacOS X 10.6) installation steps for Mailman This document is based on my experience installing Mailman 2.1.4 on MacOS X 10.3 (Panther) and subsequently upgrading to Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4) and to mailman 2.1.6 and now to Snow Leopard (Mac OS X 10.6) with mailman 2.1.13. It is largely based on Kathleen Webb's document on installing Mailman and Sendmail on MacOS X 10.2 (Jaguar) (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-October/022944.html) which contains some information on tools that can be useful that will not be repeated here. This guide assumes that you have Postfix (which comes with Snow Leopard) already configured and operating, that you have the built-in web server running (if not, enable it by going to the Sharing pane of System Preferences and turning on Web Sharing), and that you are familiar with the Unix shell and basic text editing from the shell (vi or emacs). It is intended to help you get Mailman installed. It does not deal with actually using Mailman as there are plenty of other sources of help for that. This is based on a new install on a Snow Leopard system that has never had Mailman on it before. Questions are best asked through the mailman-users mailing list. Step 1) Collect all the things you need. a) You need to download and decompress the Mailman software. (The installation instructions are in step 3.) Download the software from: http://www.list.org/ Download the latest 2.1.x.tgz which is a gzip compressed tar file (.tgz). Just leave it for now and we'll expand it later. b) You need to be an administrator of your computer. If you do not have administrator privileges, you will not be able to do this. c) Python comes pre-installed on your computer. It is already functioning and ready for use by Mailman. (To verify you have Python, open the Terminal application. at the % prompt, type: sudo Python -V and then hit the enter/return key. You'll be prompted for your password. When you enter it, the terminal will respond with the Python version. d) Apache web server software comes pre-installed on your computer and has already been configured and is running. e) Postfix is already installed on your computer but is not running by default. You will need to get Postfix configured and started but how to do that is beyond the scope of this document. An excellent way of getting Postfix up and running, along with a POP and IMAP server, is with MailServe Snow http://www.cutedgesystems.com/software/MailServeSnow/. Note that MailServe Snow is not free - as all the underlying software is freely available, you're paying for the configuration and installation tool, not the underlying software. f) You may need to know how to get into hidden subdirectories. In the Finder, use the Go menu and choose Go to Folder. Type in the path to the hidden folder you need to open. g) You may need to know how to make a new user. You use the System Preferences application [from the Apple menu]. Use the Accounts panel in the System section. h) You need to install the Developer Tools that came with your Snow Leopard disks or several of the steps won't work. From this point on, we will do everything in Terminal and as root. So open Terminal and then become root by typing 'sudo su'. You will be prompted for your password and then get a # as a prompt. Step 2) Verify the user and group needed to run Mailman. All versions of OS X since at least Panther have come with the needed users and groups already created. We will be using _mailman for mailman and _www for the webserver. To verify they're there, type 'grep _mailman /etc/group' and 'grep _mailman /etc/passwd. Both should return one line starting with _mailman:*:78:. If they do, they exist. You can repeat that with _www and the number you see should
Re: [Mailman-Users] Snow Leoparrd (MacOS X 10.6) CLIENT installation steps for Mailman
On Apr 29, 2010, at 11:53 PM, Terri Oda wrote: Thanks Larry! I've linked your once again excellent post into the Mac OS FAQ on the wiki: http://wiki.list.org/x/O4A9 Thanks Terri. I've also asked Larry to submit a bug report against mailman-administrivia so that we can update the docs. -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Snow Leoparrd (MacOS X 10.6) CLIENT installation steps for Mailman
Thanks Larry! I've linked your once again excellent post into the Mac OS FAQ on the wiki: http://wiki.list.org/x/O4A9 Terri -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Snow Leoparrd (MacOS X 10.6) CLIENT installation steps for Mailman
In September 2004, I posted on this topic with instructions for installing mailman on the client version of MacOS X 10.3 (Panther). Later, I updated it for OS X 10.4 (Tiger) as well as notes (but not full instructions) for OS X 10.5 (Leopard). Just recently, I did a test installation on my 10.6 (Snow Leopard) laptop in anticipation of a new desktop to become my new server later this year. In all cases, these were the CLIENT version of Mac OS X (Mac OS X Server comes with a bastardized version of Mailman). So here, once again for purposes of getting it in the archives, are my instructions for installing mailman on MacOS X 10.6.x. With this version, I've made some changes to bring the mailman home directory in line with Mailman standards (i.e. using /usr/local/mailman instead of /Applications/mailman), improved the system startup procedure, and some other miscellaneous cleanup. = Snow Leopard (MacOS X 10.6) installation steps for Mailman This document is based on my experience installing Mailman 2.1.4 on MacOS X 10.3 (Panther) and subsequently upgrading to Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4) and to mailman 2.1.6 and now to Snow Leopard (Mac OS X 10.6) with mailman 2.1.13. It is largely based on Kathleen Webb's document on installing Mailman and Sendmail on MacOS X 10.2 (Jaguar) (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2002-October/022944.html) which contains some information on tools that can be useful that will not be repeated here. This guide assumes that you have Postfix (which comes with Snow Leopard) already configured and operating, that you have the built-in web server running (if not, enable it by going to the Sharing pane of System Preferences and turning on Web Sharing), and that you are familiar with the Unix shell and basic text editing from the shell (vi or emacs). It is intended to help you get Mailman installed. It does not deal with actually using Mailman as there are plenty of other sources of help for that. This is based on a new install on a Snow Leopard system that has never had Mailman on it before. Questions are best asked through the mailman-users mailing list. Step 1) Collect all the things you need. a) You need to download and decompress the Mailman software. (The installation instructions are in step 3.) Download the software from: http://www.list.org/ Download the latest 2.1.x.tgz which is a gzip compressed tar file (.tgz). Just leave it for now and we'll expand it later. b) You need to be an administrator of your computer. If you do not have administrator privileges, you will not be able to do this. c) Python comes pre-installed on your computer. It is already functioning and ready for use by Mailman. (To verify you have Python, open the Terminal application. at the % prompt, type: sudo Python -V and then hit the enter/return key. You'll be prompted for your password. When you enter it, the terminal will respond with the Python version. d) Apache web server software comes pre-installed on your computer and has already been configured and is running. e) Postfix is already installed on your computer but is not running by default. You will need to get Postfix configured and started but how to do that is beyond the scope of this document. An excellent way of getting Postfix up and running, along with a POP and IMAP server, is with MailServe Snow http://www.cutedgesystems.com/software/MailServeSnow/. Note that MailServe Snow is not free - as all the underlying software is freely available, you're paying for the configuration and installation tool, not the underlying software. f) You may need to know how to get into hidden subdirectories. In the Finder, use the Go menu and choose Go to Folder. Type in the path to the hidden folder you need to open. g) You may need to know how to make a new user. You use the System Preferences application [from the Apple menu]. Use the Accounts panel in the System section. h) You need to install the Developer Tools that came with your Snow Leopard disks or several of the steps won't work. From this point on, we will do everything in Terminal and as root. So open Terminal and then become root by typing 'sudo su'. You will be prompted for your password and then get a # as a prompt. Step 2) Verify the user and group needed to run Mailman. All versions of OS X since at least Panther have come with the needed users and groups already created. We will be using _mailman for mailman and _www for the webserver. To verify they're there, type 'grep _mailman /etc/group' and 'grep _mailman /etc/passwd. Both should return one line starting with _mailman:*:78:. If they do, they exist. You can repeat that with _www and the number you see should be 70. Assuming all of the above is there, we're good to go. Step 3) Create a folder for mailman in the finder. a) You can choose where to create the folder. I chose to
