Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to get mail working
On Wed, 13 May 2015 23:19:45 +0900, Steve Turnbull wrote: Dovecot and Mailman should be mostly independent of each other, while both depend crucially on Postfix. The first thing to do is to find the log files for each application, and test that mail works for all combinations of inside and outside the system (and often outside has to be divided into your domain and the rest of the Internet), to and from. If Dovecot isn't working, you still should be able to see mail flowing in the Postfix logs, and possibly learn something about its status using the mailq tool. Next work on being able to read and perhaps submit mail via Dovecot. Finally, do the Mailman configuration. Thanks. That sounds like an excellent starting point. Testing Dovecot or Mailman in the absence of a working Postfix is going to be hard for you, I guess. It's not impossible, but it requires some knowledge of internals of each program, and a fair amount of confidence with Unix tools like pipes and netcat. Much easier to learn to read Postfix's logs to determine when the problem is with one of the (non- ;-) cooperating applications, and when it's Postfix. Tools are not a problem, but program internals? Nah, not I, said the sys admin (LOL). At least I know now what the focal point is of the three. It would help if you describe the symptoms, although perhaps the best thing we can do is direct you to a Postfix or Dovecot channel. No symptoms to report, as I've not begun testing in a serious and methodical way ... until now, because I was clueless as to where to begin. I'll work with the above and reply with more details as they are revealed if things don't work. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Trying to get mail working
I have charge of a very mixed system--current OS (Fedora 20--OK 21's out but I just haven't upgraded yet), current (or nearly so) Mailman (2.1.18-1), Postfix 2.10 with a configuration file sfrom something a lot older which I've run through the upgrade-configuration procedure, and old Dovecot (1.0.15). Is there anything I can do to test each of these components individually, then add a second component and test the three pairs, then all three together? I am nobody's definitioin of an expert in any of these three components, so am having a lot of trouble making them work together, so I thought maybe there might be some test procedure that might straighten me out. Thanks in advance. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Trying to get mail working
Steve Matzura writes: I have charge of a very mixed system--current OS (Fedora 20--OK 21's out but I just haven't upgraded yet), current (or nearly so) Mailman (2.1.18-1), Postfix 2.10 with a configuration file sfrom something a lot older which I've run through the upgrade-configuration procedure, and old Dovecot (1.0.15). Is there anything I can do to test each of these components individually, Dovecot and Mailman should be mostly independent of each other, while both depend crucially on Postfix. The first thing to do is to find the log files for each application, and test that mail works for all combinations of inside and outside the system (and often outside has to be divided into your domain and the rest of the Internet), to and from. If Dovecot isn't working, you still should be able to see mail flowing in the Postfix logs, and possibly learn something about its status using the mailq tool. Next work on being able to read and perhaps submit mail via Dovecot. Finally, do the Mailman configuration. Testing Dovecot or Mailman in the absence of a working Postfix is going to be hard for you, I guess. It's not impossible, but it requires some knowledge of internals of each program, and a fair amount of confidence with Unix tools like pipes and netcat. Much easier to learn to read Postfix's logs to determine when the problem is with one of the (non- ;-) cooperating applications, and when it's Postfix. It would help if you describe the symptoms, although perhaps the best thing we can do is direct you to a Postfix or Dovecot channel. HTH Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Mailman-Users] Trying to get mail working
On 05/13/2015 07:19 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Dovecot and Mailman should be mostly independent of each other, while both depend crucially on Postfix. The situation which makes them mostly independent rather than completely independent is if Postfix is configured in a way that tries to use Dovecot as the LDA for mail to Mailman. Normally, Mailman relies on aliases in Postfix to properly deliver mail to Mailman, and only Postfix's local LDA uses aliases; Dovecot doesn't. -- Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
