Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade questions - Best method suggestions requested
On 7/15/08, Drew Tenenholz wrote: 1) Are there any significant changes to the FAQ for Apple upgrade I should know about? The Apple-related portion of the documentation has been contributed by other members of the community, so if you haven't seen any updates there, it is *NOT* safe to assume that the instructions are still valid. You could always try them and report back your experiences, and maybe hope that someone will be able to update the documentation to reflect that. 2) Should we upgrade Mailman to 2.1.11 FIRST, then do the OS X install or the other way around? I can see arguments for both, but having never done any upgrade for mailman I'm not sure which to do first. Do the OS upgrade first, then Mailman. 3) I'm running a single, very small announce-only list with about 125 subscribers, but I'd like to preserve the archived messages (all in Cyrillic text). I really DON'T want to preserve the existing queue of postings held for moderation, they are all SPAM. Is it possible to drop a specific piece of Mailman like that during an upgrade? Sure. Just don't copy those messages over when you copy over everything else. 4) So, I really need to put some kind of SPAM filter between Mailman and Postfix. Does anyone know if the pre-installed SapmAssassin which comes with OS X (10.5) just 'magically' becomes part of the mix, or do I need to do something else to start filtering the incoming junk to mailman? I haven't seen their SpamAssassin configuration. I do know that the SpamAssassin integration instructions we have work at another site I help administer (ntp.org). 5) I hope to set up a boot drive plus a RAID0 for the data drives. Where does Mailman end up living? Our standard installation for everything related to Mailman usually gets put in /usr/local/Mailman/, but I don't know if the installation process has been updated to put it wherever Apple specifies to put things for their version of Mailman. You'd want to check that to make sure. -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Upgrade questions - Best method suggestions requested
On 7/16/08 12:57 AM, Brad Knowles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/15/08, Drew Tenenholz wrote: 1) Are there any significant changes to the FAQ for Apple upgrade I should know about? The Apple-related portion of the documentation has been contributed by other members of the community, so if you haven't seen any updates there, it is *NOT* safe to assume that the instructions are still valid. You could always try them and report back your experiences, and maybe hope that someone will be able to update the documentation to reflect that. As the author of the document referenced in the FAQ on installing Mailman on client Mac OS X, there are some significant changes for Leopard. I posted an update on 10/29/07 titled Mac OS X Leopard upgrade experience which should be findable in the archives. I do have one ongoing problem which is the Mailman startup, when started as part of system boot, fails about 2/3 of the time with the stray process message mentioned in the note referenced above. My solution to it is a cron job that runs hourly to alert me to missing qrunners (which obviously is useful for other mailman problems as well) and manually starting it when necessary. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonejongleux.com/ -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Upgrade questions - Best method suggestions requested
Folks -- I'm planning on upgrading my Mac XServe this weekend, and wanted to get a feel for the 'best' way to make sure the work goes smoothly. Thanks in advance for your suggestions. The overall goal is to upgrade from G5 XServe 10.3.9 Server(!) with default Apple installation of Mailman 2.1.4(!) to Mac OS X 10.5 and a standardized install of Mailman 2.1.11. This is less of an upgrade and more of a process whereby I take new hard drives, format them and then install/migrate the data/applications from the older drives. I have a very old message directing me to some of the FAQ which, with the help of someone very familiar with UNIX, we can use to get away from the Apple version of the install. However, I still have a couple of questions: 1) Are there any significant changes to the FAQ for Apple upgrade I should know about? 2) Should we upgrade Mailman to 2.1.11 FIRST, then do the OS X install or the other way around? I can see arguments for both, but having never done any upgrade for mailman I'm not sure which to do first. 3) I'm running a single, very small announce-only list with about 125 subscribers, but I'd like to preserve the archived messages (all in Cyrillic text). I really DON'T want to preserve the existing queue of postings held for moderation, they are all SPAM. Is it possible to drop a specific piece of Mailman like that during an upgrade? 4) So, I really need to put some kind of SPAM filter between Mailman and Postfix. Does anyone know if the pre-installed SapmAssassin which comes with OS X (10.5) just 'magically' becomes part of the mix, or do I need to do something else to start filtering the incoming junk to mailman? 5) I hope to set up a boot drive plus a RAID0 for the data drives. Where does Mailman end up living? Thanks again, Drew Tenenholz -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
