Re: [Mailman-Users] looking for correct doc for configure

2012-06-05 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-06-03 3:16 PM, Larry Stone lston...@stonejongleux.com wrote:

On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:09 AM, H wrote:

Pretty new to Mailman, trying to install it and looking for the
correct documentation to go with mailman-3.0.0b1



MHO, if you're new to Mailman, you should not be looking at 3.0 yet.
3.0.0b1 is the first beta release of the largely re-architected
Mailman 3. Stick to the latest Mailman 2.1 production release
(2.1.14) which is well documented, debugged, and supported.


Besides, if you *are* going to try to install/test the 3.0betas, at 
least use the dev list when reporting problems - the users list is for 
the current/stable versions...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] looking for correct doc for configure

2012-06-04 Thread Larry Stone

On Jun 3, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Larry Stone wrote:

 
 On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:09 AM, H wrote:
 
 
 All, 
 
 Pretty new to Mailman, trying to install it and looking for the correct
 documentation to go with mailman-3.0.0b1
 
 
 MHO, if you're new to Mailman, you should not be looking at 3.0 yet. 3.0.0b1 
 is the first beta release of the largely re-architected Mailman 3. Stick to 
 the latest Mailman 2.1 production release (2.1.14) which is well documented, 
 debugged, and supported.


As you (the OP) found, 2.1.x installs and works very well. I think one thing 
worth adding is that in the Unix world, most of the public software such as 
Mailman tends to follow traditional versioning. Unlike the PC world where it 
seems somewhat common to call something a beta yet tell the users that it's 
ready to go (and then stay in perpetual beta), a beta here means that it's 
still being debugged. Until a release candidate version is put up, I would 
not use Mailman 3 unless I want to be a tester. For the 2.1.x tree, I believe 
recent release candidates have gone to the production version without change 
other than finishing the documentation.

In short, don't be fooled by the PC world and perpetual betas. Mark will let us 
know when Mailman 3 is ready to use in a production environment.

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[Mailman-Users] looking for correct doc for configure

2012-06-03 Thread H

All, 

Pretty new to Mailman, trying to install it and looking for the correct
documentation to go with mailman-3.0.0b1

After unpacking that package, there is supposed to be configure script
which is not there, or, I have to create it but it is not explained how.
Cannot find any instruction where to find or how to create configure.

Tried to install via YUM, but then, the directory arrangement is
different and the manual does not take that into account. 

Also, the manual in 6.3.2. describes a contrib directory in the package,
which is not there either. 

Any tips here?




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Re: [Mailman-Users] looking for correct doc for configure

2012-06-03 Thread Larry Stone

On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:09 AM, H wrote:

 
 All, 
 
 Pretty new to Mailman, trying to install it and looking for the correct
 documentation to go with mailman-3.0.0b1


MHO, if you're new to Mailman, you should not be looking at 3.0 yet. 3.0.0b1 is 
the first beta release of the largely re-architected Mailman 3. Stick to the 
latest Mailman 2.1 production release (2.1.14) which is well documented, 
debugged, and supported.

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Larry Stone
lston...@stonejongleux.com
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