Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail and solaris stuff
The esteemed Barry Warsaw has said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 27, 2007, at 10:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you guys aren't working with either Sendmail or Solaris, I think it would be best for me to walk through and record the entire process, and give that to you as a basis for inclusion where and however you want to use it. Sounds great Hank, thanks. - -Barry I'm about to post a Sendmail/Mailman step-by-step. I've reduced the process to four steps, but have not repeated the smrsh link step that is already in the installation manual. This is for a simple installation, and I have not addressed things like multiple mail queues or use of a remote mail host. The method in my madness is to try to address the needs of the new-to-sendmail administrator in a get a simple installation working first mode. After thinking about it, I decided not to attempt to discuss such things as configuring sendmail to operate with a remote mail host, multiple mail queues, or name service. I think that all of those are both very site dependent, and adequately covered in the referenced Sendmail documentation. It's a dirt simple approach to doing a new O/S install with Sendmail, Python and Mailman install, and configuring things to work. I did include the main.mc masquerading lines needed to do a 2-domain virtual domain setup, which may seem redundant, as these are Sendmail issues. However, the sendmail.org FAQ for doing virtual domains is broken (or was---last week was last time I checked) and the bat book is deceptively incomplete in its discussion. In addition to addressing Mailman/Sendmail specifics only, I generally take the Ockham's Razor approach to getting something new working (the simplest is the best), along with the corollary to that. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The result may seem absurdly short and intellectually dissatisfying to some, but I don't see any point in making a big project out of what's really a simple job. Hank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail and solaris stuff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Feb 27, 2007, at 10:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you guys aren't working with either Sendmail or Solaris, I think it would be best for me to walk through and record the entire process, and give that to you as a basis for inclusion where and however you want to use it. Sounds great Hank, thanks. - -Barry -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBRe8EOHEjvBPtnXfVAQLlSwP/Yy0m8Imse1G/caR4nHNXOo+TN7FKdEAf IaE7HRIO6Z9e1c0WE0RiaHwpaLWNsBe8ME33sTBv5p9yT5XceL2VTRZz8ZXvCrKX xlCvDKQfNCtXX4Hk3Ezv861QUDJcKJDI3cLV3s1w8uMI43i1ManDwBcC/IEQn9SN hjz2M6Jr33c= =rkmC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail and solaris stuff
The esteemed Barry Warsaw has said: Thanks Hank. I haven't used Sendmail in 20 years, so if there is some specific text you'd like to see added (or preferably a patch to the latex file), please feel free to send it directly to me and I'll push up a doc update. Barry (and Mark) Just to acknowledge your note. I am installing Mailman on a Solaris 10 cold O/S install, and am right at the point in the install manual where I have to configure sendmail to work with Mailman. This is the fourth or fifth time I've gone through the process, so as they say in the automotive trades, I'm able to make flat rate. Since you guys aren't working with either Sendmail or Solaris, I think it would be best for me to walk through and record the entire process, and give that to you as a basis for inclusion where and however you want to use it. I'll note that the sendmail.org faq on setting up virtual domains is broken, and while the bat book covers doing it, the discussion is not complete. I think that including the relevant part of the main.mc file, as well as the configuration of the local-domain-name file (known as the cw file), to give the novice admin. all of what is needed to set up a virtual domain system might be wise. That would save you guys from having to answer FAQ questions constantly. Mark, I still owe you a how-to on moving an existing list to a new host. Your notes on my first stab at it made clear that I was overcomplicating things. Hank -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] sendmail and solaris stuff
At 8:44 PM -0700 2/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you guys aren't working with either Sendmail or Solaris, I think it would be best for me to walk through and record the entire process, and give that to you as a basis for inclusion where and however you want to use it. The ironic thing is that I was the comp.mail.sendmail FAQ maintainer for a couple of years -- but that was ten years ago. It's been so long since that I really don't have the recent experience necessary to be able to comment usefully on the sendmail-related documentation that we have. That would save you guys from having to answer FAQ questions constantly. Yeah, we need to get all this in one place. Mark, I still owe you a how-to on moving an existing list to a new host. Your notes on my first stab at it made clear that I was overcomplicating things. That would also be appreciated. Thanks! -- Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], Consultant Author LinkedIn Profile: http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu Slides from Invited Talks: http://tinyurl.com/tj6q4 -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
