Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-14 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 05/14/2018 06:33 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: - Archive purge requests. We have discussed the same items as on the list to date. I am looking at doing a simple grep for the relevant person's details and changing that. The main reason for doing this is that if we just remove the author's

[Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-14 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Guys, Thanks for all the discussion around this topic. I have been in further communication with the people working on GDPR with us. Background: I run Mailman lists for a couple of charities as a voluntary contribution to the charities, the charities have money that their disposal and we

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-14 Thread Ángel
Grant Taylor asked: > What does GDPR have to say, if anything, about subscribers having > their own archives, which will not be redacted in any way? > IMHO they would mostly fail under §18 and GDPR wouldn't apply: > This Regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data by a > natural

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-14 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
Hi all! On Mon, 2018-05-14 at 12:33 +, Andrew Hodgson wrote: [...] > These are just rough notes: > > - Archive purge requests. We have discussed the same items as on the > list to date. I am looking at doing a simple grep for the relevant > person's details and changing that. The main

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-14 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 05/14/2018 05:02 PM, Ángel wrote: > Being nitpicky. What about sysadmins subscribed to this list as part of > their professional activity ? (but otherwise interacting in the same way > as a hobbyist) How do hobbyists interact? Enquiring minds want to know. -- Dimitri Maziuk

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-14 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 05/14/2018 04:11 PM, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: Seriously, these folks don't know what they imply. Nope. Politicians (almost) never fully understand what's going on. And to be honest: If person X fullquotes and the email ends in an archive, who's fault is it? Obviously the archive's (or

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-14 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: ... lots of good examples ... well done ! I too dont think any complainer should have the right to kill a thread, just cos he/she wrote something they later wish to retract. Killing a thread would be gross abuse of all other posters' rights, & would invite

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-14 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 05/14/2018 04:02 PM, Ángel wrote: IMHO they would mostly fail under §18 and GDPR wouldn't apply: Okay. What happens if a subsequent data breach (malware / infection) causes said individual archives to become public information? }:-) Of course, if a company was using the mailing list to

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] GDPR

2018-05-14 Thread Ángel
On 2018-05-13 at 05:39 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > It would be a much more annoying matter if they claimed the right to > be deleted from third party posts that quoted and identified them, > though. If there is a "right to be forgotten" that impinges on > mailing list archives, that seems