Re: [Mailman-Users] Stone Age

> "Nissley" == Nissley Ron writes: Nissley> Forgive me for being a bit sarcastic but doesn't Nissley> preventing list members from unsubscribing reek of stone Nissley> age practices? No matter how closely related the members Nissley> are to the source of the mailing list...we

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman list qrunner locks getting stuck?

> "Jon" == Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jon> The browser connection manages to create the lock files but Jon> then it stops and refuses to authenticate. I'm fairly Jon> certain it is using an old cookie at this point. Well, the obvious and pleasant solution is 1) rev

Re: [Mailman-Users] error in qrunner

> "tdavis" == tdavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: tdavis> What does this mean? Mailman owns the lockfiles. Does it own the directory where they're being created? Or is that what you mean by "owns the lockfiles"? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsu

Re: [Mailman-Users] question

> "Jon" == Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jon> It would involve adding a preprocessor to the mailing list. Jon> For some folks that is easily accomplished (do-able in about Jon> four hours), but for folks who have never done it before, it Jon> can be a real time-sink t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscriber options

> "Paul" == Paul Croft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paul> Currently I see that I can veiw 30 subscribers at a Paul> time...is there anyway to view more? I think you have to hack the source, but it's not hard. Probably you don't need to, though. Paul> Is there a search feature fo

Re: [Mailman-Users] News Gateway not spam

> "Jon" == Jon Carnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jon> Take a look at the code. It's very easy to read and edit. Not only that, but remarkably often the obvious change is the correct one. So-o-o-o-o cool! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac

Re: [Mailman-Users] Large Lists manipulations

> "Greg" == Greg Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Greg> On 04 December 2001, Tass Chapman said: >> Is there a quicker way to remove members than the UI or the >> remove_members tool? I can quickly use emacs to load and find >> the email in the config.db, but I am not sure of t

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to arrange a list with 'affiliate' members

> "Barnaby" == Barnaby Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Barnaby> I am trying to configure a list or group of lists to Barnaby> exhibit the following behaviour, but have been having Barnaby> trouble: Barnaby> I run a list called 'discuss', which is a discussion list Barnab

Re: [Mailman-Users] how to arrange a list with 'affiliate' members

> "Barnaby" == Barnaby Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Barnaby> However you seriously underestimate the technophobia of Barnaby> my members! Perhaps. I still think if they were given a chance to work with a system that was crafted to work for them, instead of against them, they wou

Re: [Mailman-Users] qrunner lockup / mass moderation

> "Stephan" == Stephan Uhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stephan> Is there another way to do such mass moderation? I tried Stephan> to move away the files in the data/ directory but then Stephan> Mailman complains about missing them, so I guess I have Stephan> to do it the "

Re: [Mailman-Users] List security

> "Kai" == Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kai> So, put "Approved: password" in the first line or as a Kai> header. Note, this will be parsed away and NOT distributed to Kai> the list, don't worry! Well, worry a little. It's cleartext, so unless you're using a VPN/ encry

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman + Sendmail issues

> "Mark" == Mark Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> mailman: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" and the error message indicates that sendmail picked up the config properly, too. So the only thing I can think of is that /var/mailman/mail/mailman doesn't exist (seem

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman question

> "C" == C L Etheridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: C> In other words, an e-mail send to a list via Smartlist in the C> "TO" field has the name of the list NOT the e-mail address of C> the recipient. Please note that not only do all mailing list servers do this, but many users _dep

Re: [Mailman-Users] Wish List

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> Hmm. If I am answering too many questions, That deserves taking seriously, I think. Brad> then maybe it is time for me to leave. But please don't leave! The great majority of your posts are precise FAQ citations. Th

Re: [Mailman-Users] RE: don't delivery messages

> "David" == David Elias Sanchez Vasquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> I did ask to my provider and they answered me this: David> "Try it again and let me know- there is a setting that says David> how many one user can send per hour that was set to low for David> this lis

Re: [Mailman-Users] BIG discard problem

> "Robert" == Robert Echlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robert> Stuff I looked at: Robert> - 2004 mailman list messages. Robert> - google for "discard mailman script" Robert> - mailman faq (search for discard) Robert> - docs on www.list.org Robert> - bin/discard.py seem

Re: [Mailman-Users] BIG discard problem

> "Robert" == Robert Echlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robert> That looks like an interesting solution. I'll make a note Robert> of it for next time. Well, last I heard your server was still trying to create the page and choking. This will solve that, because there is an index of pe

How to respond to FAQs [was: [Mailman-Users] Banner and Complex code ...]

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> I've been thinking about this a bit more. I can Brad> change the stock answer I give to the following: This is a FAQ (Frequently Asked Question). Please search the FAQ Wizard and the arc

[Mailman-Users] Re: How to respond to FAQs

> "Robert" == Robert Echlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robert> Stephen, I think what you call "Newbie rudeness" is NOT Robert> ignorance of the mores. It is simply not yet knowing the Robert> resources. If you like. But that implies ignorance of the mores, as I understand them.

Re: [Mailman-Users] maximum size of mailman .mbox files

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> At 2:59 PM -0500 2005-08-17, Stephen S Kelley wrote: >> I'm running mailman 2.1.5 on fedora2 and the box has ample >> resources. Are there any OS problems a 2GB? Brad> Dunno. But you'd be more likely to get an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages are lost...I have followed FAQs 3.14

> "Mike" == Mike Avery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike> Looking at the archives to the mailing list, I've seen that Mike> different people have had this problem since 2003 in one Mike> form or another. Actually, not. (See below.) Mike> Still, it seems Mailman should be able

Re: [Mailman-Users] Emails coming through as "maillist-bounces" - is this normal?

> "memmott" == memmott <@ HitCatcher.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes: memmott> A client of ours has a mailman list set up called memmott> [EMAIL PROTECTED] For some reason, when anybody posts to memmott> this list, the return address of the list comes across as memmott> "[EMA

Re: [Mailman-Users] max_num_recipients variable question

> "John" == John W Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> But yes, 10 recipients known to Mailman is the limit as set John> up by the default value. Personally, I prefer a setting of John> 1 (I hate broadcasting addresses into a mailing list). Does that actually work? Although

Re: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: GMAIL

> "Bryan" == Bryan Carbonnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bryan> I *won't* see this e-mail coming back from the list in my Bryan> GMail, but I *will* see it with my home e-mail address. ISTR that GMail (but maybe it was Yahoo) uses some kind of header to "tag" its own mail, and if tha

Re: [Mailman-Users] endless reposting problem

> "Gil" == Gil Hardwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Gil> Some of my clients had their office auto-responder switch on, This ought to be a firing offense It's very simple. There is a standard for mailing lists, there are a bunch of headers (List-Id, etc) that are required of conform

Re: [Mailman-Users] Email rejected with un-quoted From with a dot

> "Bill" == Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bill> On an old Debian Woody machine running mailmain 2.0.11 Bill> Mailman rejects mail with an un-quoted name part that Bill> includes a dot. Yup. According to RFC 2822's grammar, that's not "an un-quoted name part that includ

Re: [Mailman-Users] Email rejected with un-quoted From with a dot

> "Bill" == Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bill> You know what's very odd? When they send mail directly to Bill> me their name includes the quotes. "Foo B. User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bill> When they send mail to the list then it's held and looking Bill> at the h

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachements question

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Im assuming they self delete after a while because clicking on >> one of the link now indicates its not there." Brad> That implies that something else is going on. There Brad> is no standard cron job that I know of

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachements question

>>>>> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> At 2:03 PM +0900 2005-09-28, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Why archivers don't use Message-Id for the URL, I don't know. Brad> Because some MUAs generate mess

Re: [Mailman-Users] attachements question

> "John" == John W Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> In addition, the Message-Id values would have to be John> filtered, if used as is, for URL-unfriendly characters I don't think so. AFAIK, that was fixed about 2000 RFCs ago. When used as URLs, conforming agents will URL-enc

Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown encoding crashes qrunner

> "Ivan" == Ivan Fetch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ivan> I'm confused as to why the unknown encoding is "unknown" - Ivan> can someone shed light on this? Probably because some less-than-conformant agent put that literal string in a Content-Type header. Try grepping the spool for "cha

Re: [Mailman-Users] unknown encoding crashes qrunner

> "Ivan" == Ivan Fetch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ivan> In your experience, has this stopped Mailman from Ivan> processing incoming messages? After soem further Ivan> investigation, I've seen these same errors take place, yet Ivan> Mailman continues processing messages.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Documentations on Mailman package

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> At 10:46 PM -0700 2005-10-05, Xiaoyan Ma wrote: >> Are there documentations on how the Mailman package is >> organized? I am learning Python and would like to understand >> how the Mailman package, modules are organize

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

> "Mark" == Mark A Lombardo writes: Mark> I must be coming across as really thick and stupid. Not at all, although it's maddening all around to run into this kind of communication block. Mark S is usually very successful at explaining but let me try from a somewhat different angle.

Re: [Mailman-Users] ISO-8859-1/Latin1 vs UTF-8

> "Bernd" == Bernd Petrovitsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Content-Type: header specifying charset=utf-8. For reasons I >> don't understand, the HTML standard says the server provided >> Content-Type: charset takes priority over that specified by an >> HTML META tag. Be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce message confusion

> "Robin" == Robin Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robin> There's nothing wrong with the subscribers email Robin> address. How do I tell mailman that our addresses is ok You don't. The MTA (mail transfer agent, the program that actually sends the mail over the Internet) at your ISP

[Mailman-Users] Restricted accounts [was: Bounce message confusion]

> "Mark" == Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> I have heard other reports of ISP's offering Mailman service Mark> and effectively restricting Mailman to 500 (or some number) Mark> of recipients per hour. I think this is ridiculous, Mark> deceptive and borders on frau

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce message confusion

> "Robin" == Robin Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robin> We're trying, but my ISP doesn't seem to understand what's Robin> wrong. Are _they_ sympathetic, and genuinely trying to help? Robin> Is there a way I can add an email address of my own that Robin> will definitely be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce message confusion

> "Mark" == Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> Robin Rowe wrote: >> Dumb question, but I want to make sure I understand: if I turn >> off bounce processing what happens when there's a bounce? Mark> The bounce email is discarded and no action is taken. Does mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] Howto do lists with same name on virtual domain

> "Lars" == Lars Lystrup Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> I want to setup mailman to run lists for several domains, Lars> some of them running the same list names. This is a known restriction in MM 2.1. You need to run separate instances of mailman for that. See http://

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & Zope

> "John" == John Poltorak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> How do I configure a Mailman list for a website which is John> Zope based? John> I guess some entries in Apaches configuration file need to John> distinguish between Zope based pages and Apache pages for a John> g

Re: [Mailman-Users] Doubt with python and mailman

> "Xabier" == Xabier Guitián <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Xabier> What happens if... you kill python after 'theorically' Xabier> shutting down the mailman correctly? The python process stops, dead. Xabier> Is this a problem to the possible mails that were being Xabier> pro

Re: [Mailman-Users] "There are no pending requests"

> "Ben" == Ben Ostrowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> As you may remember from our last thrilling episode, I've Ben> upgraded from 2.1.4 to 2.1.5. Our users are trying to send Ben> messages that are being held for review, which is fine. But Ben> when we try to release the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman under Cygwin - won't add list

> "Ben" == Ben Discoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> Wow. I had no idea at all that it was possible to run Apache Ben> _inside_ Cygwin. The Apache website directs Windows people Ben> to just install and run, so the alternate route is not well Ben> known. You might want to

Re: [Mailman-Users] sorting out bounces

> "Eric" == Eric S Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> List admins don't receive the bounces. The system does. There >> are many examples of groups of multiple list admins all >> managing the same mailing lists, and having absolutely no >> problems whatsoever with this m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Shunting msgs.

> "Thomas" == Thomas von Hassel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> Hi i have a mailman 2.1.6 installation on freebsd 4.9 Thomas> Many of the msgs. to my lists are beging shunted with this Thomas> error: Thomas> Uncaught runner exception: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte T

Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting my mailing list

> "William" == William F Hill, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: William> I have asked this question in the past and still cannot William> find a simple, layman's way of getting my membership list William> downloaded. One way: Go to the list information page using your web browser. It

Re: [Mailman-Users] notification system

> "Matt" == Matt Gostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matt> I have installed Mailman in hopes of using it as a type of Matt> 'notification' system. For example, a user subscribes to Matt> the list, and after subscribing I can send him/her an email Matt> notifiying them an event

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

> "Jim" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jim> I guess we just see system administration from different Jim> angles, I prefer communication to silence. Of course. So does everybody. Specifically, so do the crackers. Jim> Barry/Tokio/Mark: Folks, yesterday we were inf

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jim> Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> 5. Security patches are asynchronous, like earthquakes, they >> happen when they happen. Jim> Very bad analogy. Hurricanes would be b

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jim> Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Oh, if you prefer windstorms, hurricane is a bad analogy. Far >> more accurate is "tornado".<0.1 wink> Jim> Hurrica

Re: [Mailman-Users] Verifying posts

> "Jim" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jim> Hi all, I've been looking into TMDA (http://tmda.net) and got Jim> to wondering if something like this (or a subset of it) Jim> should be incorporated into Mailman. There was a thread about this in the fairly recent past, p

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

> "Jim" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jim> She was asking a very important question about something that Jim> was already public. What important question? It's an easy to execute exploit (in fact, it occasionally happens due to ordinary mail, that's why it was found an

Re: [Mailman-Users] any info on this reported exploit?

> "Jim" == Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jim> BTW, just who are the members of mailman-security? It's a self-selecting group, though not a terribly secret one; I believe the membership of that list has been described, if not explicitly listed, in the past. But I know Barry we

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are footers sent as attachments?

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> You can't write your own HTML there, so no "click Brad> here" type language is going to work. Strictly speaking, this depends on the MUA, too. In the message I'm replying to Gnus added no less than 16 clickable items, i

Re: [Mailman-Users] non human interface for manging users

> "Mark" == Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'm developping a web site for an association, and I wonder to >> know if they are any remote MailMan command which would enables >> me to manage user subscribion automatically. >> The Association's Web site has a securize

Re: [Mailman-Users] why is plain text option (removes MIME/HTML) only available for digest?

> "Tom" == Tom Grundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tom> Hello - we would like to be able to specify plain vs MIME (on Tom> a user-by-user basis) for regular non-digest delivery. Tom> 'option plain' only lets you set the user-by-user option when Tom> digests are on. The plain te

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

> "jam" == John A Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: jam> I have read many mailing lists as newsgroups on Gmane for jam> several years and have been unaware of missing anything jam> substantial from a subscribed list. You may not be missing anything, but I missed at least one of y

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> Clearly, there is a benefit here to the Gmane users, Brad> potentially even a commercial benefit. But what do they Brad> contribute back to the larger Mailman community? I don't think that's a useful question to ask. Ope

Re: [Mailman-Users] GMane?

> "jam" == John A Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: sjt> I missed at least one of your posts, receiving Brad's reply sjt> to it almost 24 hours in advance of your post. Even today sjt> this is common for netnews. jam> Sorry, Gmane is not netnews. Gmane is not Usenet. OK, s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Displaying message sender

> "Matthew" == Matthew Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matthew> I have a mailing list with users subscribed from two Matthew> particular domains, call them nice.com and naughty.com. Matthew> The security czars are naughty.com have decided that Matthew> inbound email with n

Re: [Mailman-Users] Displaying message sender

> "Mark" == Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> The logical place to do all this is Mark> Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py. I don't understand this recommendation. Why not use a separate Handler in either the global pipeline (if it's an organizational installation) or the li

Re: [Mailman-Users] installation problems - newlist-issues

> "Mark" == Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> Henrik wrote: >> On 2/24/06, Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Then maybe someone put it in Defaults.py. Let's hope Mandrake >>> is not distributing its package this way. >> They are, I'm afraid. Mar

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> If anyone wants to see a more completely laid out and Brad> fully explained discussion of why Goodmail is such a bad Brad> idea, please see and Brad> .

Re: [Mailman-Users] Integrating htdig

> "Jeff" == Jeff Donsbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jeff> Based on the lack of traffic to the mailman3-dev mailing Jeff> list, is it a safe assumption that Mailman3 development is Jeff> stalled? (Please, devs, don't take this as criticism. It is Jeff> just a question). No.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

>>>>> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brad> At 3:07 PM +0900 2006-03-02, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> *sigh* I see lots of explanation of why this is going to hurt >> "legitimate" bulk emailers there, but ..

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

> "Harold" == Harold Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Harold> Do you really have a *policy* to accept messages that you Harold> will never deliver, save them to disk, and then generate Harold> reject messages for them? As I read his post, indeed he does. He wants legitimate po

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

> "Harold" == Harold Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Harold> The problem is that we are making net.messes by Harold> automatically replying to junk. It would be nice to see a Harold> general fix. Well, there isn't one.[1] Take the case in point. Your solution is also a hack

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

> "Dave" == Dave Crocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> You understand that and I understand that, but I don't think >> it's easy to grasp from the pages whose URLs you posted. What >> _is_ easy to grasp is that bulk emailers who have been getting >> a certain level of QoS for

Re: [Mailman-Users] 1 email for multiple email-list recipients onsame server?

> "Patrick" == Patrick Bogen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Patrick> On 3/9/06, Matt England <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ...and this seems to be the trickiest part: which list becomes >> the "primary" one. I can envision straightforward (even though >> they are not easy to imp

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: At 7:50 PM -0400 2006-04-28, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> Whatever else we decide, I don't agree, or at least, it won't >> help us. $3.6.6 says that Resent-* headers are to be added by >> a user. It also says that these are purely i

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message HTML/Plain text. Wish client display HTML when possible

> "Thomas" == Thomas Carpentier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> Is there something to do, on the mailman side, such that Thomas> the message is automatically displayed in HTML only (at Thomas> least at first alternative) when the mail program permits Thomas> it and the opti

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

> "William" == William D Tallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: William> How does the RFC, or the writers thereof, define "user"? They don't. IMHO (there are those more expert than I on this list) anything that is normally expected to touch the headers or body of a message is a "user" for t

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

> "William" == William D Tallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: William> On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:11:22PM +0900, Stephen William> J. Turnbull wrote: >> I don't think that is the way that RFC writers in general >> think. William> Yes, so I gather. :-) William> Which m

Re: [Mailman-Users] stat deferred and connection reset

> "Vikram" == Vikram Goyal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Vikram> May 7 05:07:16 ip-68-178-242-231 sendmail[12991]: Vikram> k474oTaH027069: to=, delay=06:48:40, Vikram> xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=15687906, Vikram> relay=someserver.net, dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: At 5:09 PM -0400 9/18/06, John A. Martin quoted JC Dill: > Where are those restrictions expressed. I do not see them at > . I do not see > them in either the subscription challenge

Re: [Mailman-Users] Difficulties with mailman 2.1.5

Brad Knowles writes: > >> One thing that would help is if your ISP was running the latest > >> version of Mailman -- we're now on version 2.1.9. There have been a > At 3:10 PM -0500 11/17/06, Alan McConnell wrote: > >Yes. My question, addressed to you, or to any Debian > >expert

[Mailman-Users] Using spam filters on subject line

Bob McLeran writes: > Using Mailman 2.1.9 as a list administrator. > > Trying to block posts with string "test" in the subject line but would > like to automatically approve certain subjects with the same string, > such as "testing engine components" - is this possible under either > "He

Re: [Mailman-Users] Using spam filters on subject line

Bob McLeran writes: > We're trying to stop emails with the string "test" - and that works with > the filter subject: test currently. What I'd like to do is to be able to > create a rule that would allow a legitimate subject line, like "testing > NMEA circuit" which includes the string "test

Re: [Mailman-Users] mbox files

Paul Tomblin writes: > Is there any way to make arch smarter about "^From " lines? Yes, but it's not a good idea to put it in the distribution, at least not without a lot of careful hedging about and making it an option defaulting to off. You can't even being sure that From_ lines will be consi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman archive messages(not rm, but install!)

Brad Knowles writes: > I've never claimed to be a Debian expert, and if they're mucking > about with packages that include certain features by default in order > to remove those features, then there's not much I can do to help the > poor souls that are stuck with that kind of stuff. That's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Todd Zullinger writes: > Brad Knowles wrote: > > We can tell you what the Mailman-standard was is to start them, but > > Apple has created their own code to manage this aspect of Mailman > > operations and they haven't shared that with us. > > Apple does provide the source code for their m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Todd Zullinger writes: > Nothing wrong with that. It's why open source is so nice. I have the > choice to find vendors and projects that share more of my values than > others may. If FHS compliance is really important to you, you'll like > the Red Hat mailman packages. The problem is that

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

Todd Zullinger writes: > I agree that if someone comes here with questions that are obviously > very dependent on some customization that their vendor has made that > they should be directed to check with the vendor. (Same goes for > users who need more basic help learning to use their OS of

Re: [Mailman-Users] FW: Wrong group

Mark Sapiro writes: > Then, the question is why doesn't bin/check_perms -f fix it? Are you > running this as root? This may have improved more recently, but sometimes I've had to run check_perms -f more than once. -- Mailman-Users mailing lis

[Mailman-Users] problem tracking down discard reason

Ron Brogden writes: > The administrator gets a discard notice but there is no mention of > specifically why the message was discarded. Is there any option anyone is > aware of to make logging of discards more verbose? Unlike the Hold exception, the Discard exception contains no information

[Mailman-Users] BoundaryError: No terminating boundary and no trailing empty line

Noah writes: > any clues why mailman keeps dumping the following error trace in > /usr/local/mailman/logs/error ? Happens about every hour or so or > sometimes minutes apart. Probably for the same reason you repeatedly post to Mailman Users: it wants attention to its pain. For future referen

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not sending post

Noah writes: > 7) Logs. > > The incoming post email to announce arrives and sendmail dumps a line or > two to /var/log/sendmail to acknowledge receipt of the email. If you can post the relevant log entries, that might be helpful. (Of course be careful that you're not revealing anything pro

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman not sending post

Noah writes: > thanks for following up. we just solved the problem. Good! > it was a misused wildcard in the mailman filter rules. I might > have missed it but it feels like there is not enough verbose output > in the mailman logs files to tell me that a message was filtered > and an entr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not working after reboot

Brad Knowles writes: > If you have Mailman questions, we should be able to help with those. > But we can't provide support for OS-specific issues. However, members of this list often do; eg, this thread got 3 answers. How about starting an OS-specific section of the FAQ, similar to the MTA In

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not working after reboot

Brad Knowles writes: > > However, members of this list often do; eg, this thread got 3 answers. > > Of which two were "We can't help you with OS-specific issues", Of course. My point is that people do respond, not that it's very helpful; I'm looking for ways to save some of that effort. >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Challenge/response

Brad Knowles writes: > Challenge/response is one of the most vile inventions that has ever > been applied to the concept of Internet e-mail. *chuckle* I wouldn't go so far, since the spam that evoked it is far worse, but I'm steadfastly opposed to challenge-response. If you absolutely *must*

Re: [Mailman-Users] Challenge/Response

Bob Morse writes: > The problem remains, however: How do I prevent spoofing? In this case they > have a real fear due to a board member who is soon to be ejected from the > board and have organizational membership taken away. They feel he is capable > (both emotionally and technically) of majo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Messages got stuck in "in" queue due to one "bad"message

Mark Sapiro writes: > >2. Why this message didn't get moved to shunt directory? > > I don't know why it didn't shunt. At least in earlier implementations of the email lib and Mailman, the original parse of the message was not enclosed in the shunt mechanism, so the exception got caught by the

[Mailman-Users] Getting users off old listserv

heathcliff writes: > We are all set to migrate our user community to Mailman, but we are > at an impasse as to the most painless way to do this. It is not > enough to just inform them of the cut off date and send them a few > lines of instructions or guides ahead of time. Has anyone come >

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing illegal character user names

Mark Sapiro writes: > I understand the point about good practice, and we do try to validate > user input in Mailman to avoid possible XSS attacks via the web > interface. What we're dealing with here are syntactically validated > email addresses so the really nasty stuff has already been caugh

Re: [Mailman-Users] Language encoding and digests...

Krystal writes: > > Has anyone here ever attempted to use EUC-JP encoding along with > > digests? I recently ran into an issue with a list whom was using > > Japanese as they're language, and the digest mbox file actually caused > > any other list on that server to not receive digests and I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Language encoding and digests...

Brad Knowles writes: > At 12:10 PM +0900 4/6/07, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > In the short run, you probably should disable digestible for that > > list. Mailman's I18N is not very robust in this respect, and it > > may take some time to fix. >

[Mailman-Users] Two Problems with Mailman

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The second is not really a problem, but a request. Is there any > way to sort the archives by date in descending order rather than > ascending order? It makes no sense for the newest posts to be at > the bottom of the list. This is a Your Mileage May Vary king of

[Mailman-Users] confirmation problems

Bill Bedford writes: > I am getting a number of confirmations failing with SMTP errors similar > to this > > Out: 220 mousa.uk.com ESMTP Postfix Your mailer is Postfix, good ... > In: HELO smtp806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com > Out: 250 mousa.uk.com > In: MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Out

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