Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for lists with no members. Repopulstinglists. was: Resetting bounce scores globally

2011-08-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-08-18 9:18 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> I think sometimes developers/coders dont realise lesser mortals >> cant code to their standards, and in my case virtually not at all... > I'm sure that sometimes that's true of me, but if you look at my posts > in the archives of this list, I think you

Re: [Mailman-Users] Looking for lists with no members.Repopulsting lists. was: Resetting bounce scores globally

2011-08-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-08-19 7:57 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Even if I occasionally misspell words (backwords vs backwards) and > often make typos (Repopulsting vs Repopulating) :) Oh, that just reminds us all that you are indeed human, not an alien overlord... ;) -

Re: [Mailman-Users] iPhone App for moderating mails

2012-02-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-02-07 8:26 AM, Manuel Weiel wrote: I don't know if this is appropriate, but I want to share it if someone finds it useful: I have written an app for moderating mails from your mailman lists. You can add multiple lists and get an overview of all the pending moderation requests. The app s

[Mailman-Users] Newer postfix: unused parameter: mailman_destination_recipient_limit=1

2012-03-09 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I've had this parameter defined in my postfix ever since it was first set up (not by me), and most everything I read online says it should be there. But, the newer versions of postfix now provide warnings for unused parameters, and that is what I'm getting for this one parameter: m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Newer postfix: unused parameter:mailman_destination_recipient_limit=1

2012-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-03-10 1:10 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Larry Stone wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2012, Tanstaafl wrote: Anyone have any idea why? Am I indeed not using it? I'd rather not just comment it out and test without some confirmation first, since this is a productio

Re: [Mailman-Users] The sender needs to receive email sent to mailing list...

2012-05-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-05-23 9:43 AM, Guilherme Cunha wrote: Hi The sender needs to receive email sent to mailing list... How can I do this? Mark already answered you yesterday, spamming this list with multiple duplicate questions won't change the answer. If you are using gmail, you will NEVER get your

Re: [Mailman-Users] looking for correct doc for configure

2012-06-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-06-03 3:16 PM, Larry Stone wrote: On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:09 AM, H wrote: Pretty new to Mailman, trying to install it and looking for the correct documentation to go with mailman-3.0.0b1 MHO, if you're new to Mailman, you should not be looking at 3.0 yet. 3.0.0b1 is the first beta relea

Re: [Mailman-Users] more questions about Yahoo feedback loop and abuse complaints

2012-06-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-06-16 3:54 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Terry Earley: Maybe VERP is the best solution for AOL and her evil step-sisters if you can stand the overhead? Yep. Is it possible to enable VERP *only* for certain domains (like AOL, Yahoo, etc)? --

Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL redacts user addresses even with VERP and full personalization enabled

2012-06-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-06-18 12:22 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: Doing this as a custom hack helps. If this were implemented as a Mailman standard option then word might indeed get back to them about it. Using Resent-Message-ID as a header name is a clever idea. I'd also argue that since this is not AOL speci

[Mailman-Users] Setting field focus on admin login page

2012-06-26 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, A minor little niggle that has bugged me for a very long time but never enough to bother you guys with it until now... I know there must be a way to do this, but my js foo is basically non-existant... What code can I add - and where - to set the cursor focus to the password field o

Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting field focus on admin login page

2012-06-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-06-26 5:24 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: What code can I add - and where - to set the cursor focus to the password field on any/all of the list's admin login page so I don't have to click into it before entering the password? Just install Mailman 2.1.15 (

Re: [Mailman-Users] A simple unsubscribe

2012-07-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-07-28 12:38 PM, William Yardley wrote: Even if it's not primarily intended for that purpose, Mailman is used extensively as (and can be configured as) an announcement list, vs. a traditional discussion list. In that context (where none of the members can post, or learn the email address

Re: [Mailman-Users] Non-member posting to the list

2012-11-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-11-13 1:52 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: If I knew how to tell if a header was spoofed, I could do that, but I don't know how to tell; do you? Maybe an alternative would be an option that for every message posted to the list, a confirmation email is sent to the members email address, that t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Google Message Security (or similar) with Mailman

2012-12-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-12-07 5:52 PM, Kirke Johnson wrote: We have been using GMS since we migrated user accounts to Gmail. Our relationship between Postini and Mailman is kind of ugly due to that migration. Fyi... we have been using postini (hate it, lots of false positives, and lots of obvious spam slippi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Attachment with welcome message

2013-02-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-12 3:00 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Carl Zwanzig wrote: That was my first thought. Put all the info in the main message (and make sure there's a readable text/plain part, too). Absolutely! (There's way too much attaching of word processing documents and PDFs where simple plain text wi

[Mailman-Users] OT - Regex help (was: Re: About Spam Filtering

2013-02-15 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, Apologies for the OT post, but I've been struggling with a regex for a long time, trying to get it to work with my postfixadmin vacation.pl, and for the life of me, I can't seem to get it right. I've asked numerous times on the postfixadmin list, but no one there has been able to help.

Re: [Mailman-Users] OT - Regex help (was: Re: About Spam Filtering

2013-02-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-15 9:41 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: We get a lot of list related stuff that the vacation.pl responds to that I don't want it to respond to, To clarify - by 'list-related', I mean announce/newsletter type junk that our users subscribe to, not necessarily mailman list pos

Re: [Mailman-Users] OT - Regex help (was: Re: About Spam Filtering

2013-02-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-15 10:25 AM, Joseph Brennan wrote: elsif (/^from:.*+(bounce|do-not-reply|facebook|linkedin|list-|myspace|twitter)/i) { $logger->debug("Multi-string From header matching $1: $2 found; exiting"); exit (0); } Examine the logic of the 'if' and any 'elsif' above this line. I am uncerta

Re: [Mailman-Users] OT - Regex help (was: Re: About Spam Filtering

2013-02-16 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-16 9:54 AM, Joseph Brennan wrote: This 'if' block is just a bunch of separate one line tests that, if any of them match, result in the vacation response not being sent, so it doesn't really matter what is above them (they are all the defaults, this is the only line I am modifying)...

[Mailman-Users] SMTP_MAX_RCPTS setting

2013-02-17 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I'm looking to add some rate limiting to my postfix, but need to know how postfix's smtpd_recipient_limit interacts with mailman... After thinking about this, I just don't really see any rational reason that normal users should be sending to 100 recipients at one time. If they need a

Re: [Mailman-Users] white listing

2013-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-02-20 3:18 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 2/19/2013 5:06 AM, Máire Jones wrote: Is it possible to configure accept_non_members so that ANY address from @domain can be added without having to specify each address separately? Put ^.*@domain or, e.g. ^.*[@.]example\.com$ to accept any ad

Re: [Mailman-Users] Probably obvious, but...

2013-03-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-03-12 12:40 PM, Ryan Stasel wrote: This is probably obvious, but I thought I'd shoot the list an email and ask. Is there a way to redirect emails to a list from non-members to another email address? Basically, I have a list of our IT group that we use internally to send each other th

Re: [Mailman-Users] Probably obvious, but...

2013-03-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-03-12 6:31 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Tanstaafl wrote On 2013-03-12 12:40 PM, Ryan Stasel wrote: Is there a good way to say "posts by non-members should redirect/bounce to the ticketing system email"? Sounds like a job for your MTA, not Mailman...? Except the MTA do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is Mailman 2.1 not plushack aware?

2013-06-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-01 1:40 PM, Bill Cole wrote: It is altogether always wrong for ANY mail software outside of a domain to parse the local part of an address in that domain except for a tiny handful of standard special local parts (e.g. "postmaster"). On it's own, I agree. The use of '+' as a tag del

Re: [Mailman-Users] Is Mailman 2.1 not plushack aware?

2013-06-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-02 2:45 PM, Bill Cole wrote: Beyond a few formally standardized cases, assuming equivalency between different address local parts in a foreign domain is wrong in principle and bad in practice. You (and Mark) are correct of course. I only use Mailman for our local lists for our doma

[Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-08 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, Ok, we had a power failure, and apparently my UPS thought it had more time left than it did, as the UPS shut down before it shut down the system. Everything is back up and running, and postfix is running fine for all other mail, except list/mailman mail. I'm getting the following err

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-08 8:10 AM, Larry Kuenning wrote: Is mailman possibly not running? Try this: ps -A | grep mailmanctl If that gives blank output, try this: /usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start Not blank - but what does the question mark mean? # ps -A | grep mailmanctl 2600 ?00:00:00 mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-08 1:58 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Actually, private/local and private/retry refer to the sockets used for communication between the Postfix master and the various daemons. If you do 'netstat -l' you should see these and many others 'LISTENING', Do you? Yep, they're all there. And local

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-08 5:44 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 06/08/2013 02:21 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: It also seems to be something to do with how many recipients are involved. One or two appear to be ok, but more than that and it gets iffy... I think that's a coincidence. The biggest problem is

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-06-08 7:13 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: So, the doesn't occur with a single message to a single list, but it occurs when Postfix receives six messages at once FROM the lists-all list. Also your deliveries to to= et al are via the virtual transport which is apparently unaffected. Hmm, so when

Re: [Mailman-Users] Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
Thanks for trying, but mailman is running fine. Lists that have only real email addresses work fine. Also, individual messages invoking postfix/local also work fine, (ie, emails sent from cron (8 from last night and this morning), etc)... Mark has helped me narrow the problem down to whenever

[Mailman-Users] SOLVED - Re: Hello all - mailman down after power failure and hard shutdown

2013-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
ech me to never change the kernel boot default without proper testing. Anyway, thanks for the assist and sorry for the noise. Charles On 2013-06-09 10:33 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 06/09/2013 05:49 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Wish I did... I did get a comment from Victor on the postfix list to

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-20 Thread Tanstaafl
(Sorry for replying to an older thread, I'm going back through older unread mails) Maybe these should be made an official part of mailman's extra tools? And maybe updated to work with MM3? On 2013-11-05 2:46 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Tue, 2013-11-05 at 13:14 -0600, c cc wrote: Mark, It

Re: [Mailman-Users] unable to start Mailman

2013-11-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-11-20 10:08 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 14:01 +0100, Roel Wagenaar wrote: And maybe you could stop TOP-posting? In my humble opinion, any post that's less that a visual page in length is more conveniently read if it's top-posted, especially if it is in reference t

Re: [Mailman-Users] members of my group not being able to send messages

2014-01-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-02 3:09 AM, Adrien Collins wrote: I run a small friendly group, a couple of members are using the same isp, they are having problems sending messages to the group on mailman and also receiving messages from the group, not sure what I can do about this? Any suggestions please? Not ever

[Mailman-Users] Mailman Admin pages repeatedly asking for password after server migration

2014-01-04 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, I have googled, and can't seem to find the exact answer to this question. Cookies are enabled (I use the same browser to access the mailman admin pages on the old server and those don't do this)... Would someone please point me to the FAQ page for how to resolve this (I'm sure it is e

[Mailman-Users] SOLVED: Re: Mailman Admin pages repeatedly asking for password after server migration

2014-01-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-04 8:58 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: I have googled, and can't seem to find the exact answer to this question. Cookies are enabled (I use the same browser to access the mailman admin pages on the old server and those don't do this)... Would someone please point me to the FAQ pa

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem after changing the server name

2014-01-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-05 12:05 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 01/05/2014 08:00 AM, Dominique Asselineau wrote: It seeems the server name is encoded in file /var/lib/mailman/lists//config.pck updated by the command "config_list -i ", but i do not find manner to modify the server name into those pages. host_nam

Re: [Mailman-Users] problem after changing the server name

2014-01-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-05 12:53 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Assuming you have only one URL domain and email domain and they are properly set as DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST, what you need to run after changing DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN is just bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url or to see what it's doing bin/w

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-26 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/26/2014 8:21 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: Is anybody aware of any firefox add-on which allows to remember multiple password for one hostname (e.g. based on the full url of the list admin page) ? My all time favorite: www.passwordmaker.org Doesn't store passwords anywhere (generates the p

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/27/2014 6:11 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2014, Tanstaafl wrote: On 5/26/2014 8:21 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: Is anybody aware of any firefox add-on which allows to remember multiple password for one hostname (e.g. based on the full url of the list admin page) ? My all

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/29/2014 4:28 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2014, Tanstaafl wrote: You can create multiple accounts for the same URL with passwordmaker, so I think you just don';t understand totally how it works. That's quite possible. I did not install it, but read

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/29/2014 1:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Tanstaafl writes: You can create multiple accounts for the same URL with passwordmaker, so I think you just don';t understand totally how it works. I have no clue what you're talking about. The OP shares a password with several o

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/29/2014 2:34 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: You had two rounds to figure out what he was asking for, and missed it twice. No, I didn't miss it, I didn't understand that *he* didn't understand... Then you tell him he "doesn't understand totally how it works." I really*was* puzzled as to

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/30/2014 4:42 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Tanstaafl writes: It *does*... It does?? As you described it, he can let passwordmaker choose his password. But he says he can't do that. Or he can specify the whole password as the prefix, which is insecure. And AIUI that&

Re: [Mailman-Users] multiple mailing list passwords

2014-05-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 5/30/2014 5:03 AM, Peter Shute wrote: Tanstaafl writes: This isn't very secure, because the password is then stored inside the .rdf file, but it will work." So you are correct about it not being secure. How insecure, I don't know. Is this rdf file encrypted? Do you need a

[Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-01 Thread tanstaafl
Hello, I'm still trying to fix a problem I've had for a long time (started after an update) where mailman won't start from the standard init script. I think I have finally figured out what the problem is, but wanted to ask... Is the mailman user supposed to be passwordless? I know I'm running a

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-06 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/2/2009 5:13 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > It's not supposed to work. mailman privileges should only be > accessible by the system administrator, ie, someone who has the root > password. Ah, ok, that makes sense... > It's not a problem with the password for the mailman user. :-) > > The

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-06 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/2/2009, Mark Sapiro (m...@msapiro.net) wrote: > This is the real issue. mailmanctl should always be run by root. Hmmm... ok, thanks. So, on linux, when an init script runs at startup, it runs as root? > Your init script should just contain > > /bin/mailmanctl -s start >/dev/null 2>&1 > >

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-06 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/2/2009 10:05 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > This is the real issue. mailmanctl should always be run by root. Your > init script should just contain > > /bin/mailmanctl -s start >/dev/null 2>&1 > > without the su - mailman Ok, I tried this, but it did the same thing... however, I tried something e

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-06 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/2/2009, Stephen J. Turnbull (step...@xemacs.org) wrote: > (There's no good reason for *any* mailman program to be on anybody's > PATH, so yes, just having /bin/mailmanctl makes your installation > nonstandard.) Hmmm... Mark didn't seem to agree... he said: > Your init script should just cont

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-07 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/7/2009 5:44 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >>> (There's no good reason for *any* mailman program to be on anybody's >>> PATH, so yes, just having /bin/mailmanctl makes your installation >>> nonstandard.) >> Hmmm... Mark didn't seem to agree... he said: > First, if you're sure you know why Ma

Re: [Mailman-Users] Custom handler applied to digest to filter excessive quoted text?

2009-08-07 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/7/2009, Stephen J. Turnbull (step...@xemacs.org) wrote: >> Is it possible to create a custom handler for digests only? >> I want a mail list that automatically strips out duplicated quoted text in >> digests, > Yes. Wow, I'd be interested in this if you get it working... and I'd think the

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman user password

2009-08-07 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/7/2009, Mark Sapiro (m...@msapiro.net) wrote: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> >> However, in this case, I was assuming that Mark simply took you at >> your word that mailmanctl lives in /bin, > Exactly. Ok, but... well, I didn't exactly say that, but yes, that was what the command in questio

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce processing not working - Update

2009-08-13 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/12/2009 2:02 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > The Gentoo init script for mailman is pretty simple. It executes, as > user 'mailman', "mailmanctl -s start", "mailmanctl stop" and "mailmanctl > restart" for the standard init script arguments of start, stop and > restart. That's all. Mine stopped

Re: [Mailman-Users] Word Wrap

2009-08-18 Thread tanstaafl
On 8/17/2009, Adrean Clark (c...@clercscar.com) wrote: > Also notice in the first sentence of the article a > sign was added. > It's not in the original -- where did that come from? Thanks for all > your help. Aside from the spurious '>' character (what client di you use to compose/send it?), what

[Mailman-Users] Cleaning up 'special' list...

2009-09-08 Thread tanstaafl
Hi, I have a question about the best way to clean up a special list I use with Mailman... The list in question - call it 'valid-senders' - is only used to provide a list of 'valid senders' that are allowed to post to other internal lists we use. It is always set to 'Emergency Moderation' so they

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cleaning up 'special' list...

2009-09-08 Thread tanstaafl
On 9/8/2009 12:14 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> I was thinking I would simply: >> >> 1. Disable 'Emergency Moderation', > Why? Why not just send your post and then approve it? Heh... because I'm an idiot and like to make extra work for myself? ;) >> 4. Watch for bounces and remove the bad addresses

Re: [Mailman-Users] Test mesages

2009-09-11 Thread tanstaafl
On 9/11/2009, Stephen J. Turnbull (step...@xemacs.org) wrote: > What I have in mind is a screen that the site manager or list owner > can use: > > > Clone list > > List to clone: ___ > Name (mailbox) of n

[Mailman-Users] Why are old messages appearing all of a sudden all the time?

2009-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
This is a bit annoying. -- Best regards, Charles -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9

Re: [Mailman-Users] Why are old messages appearing all of a sudden all the time?

2009-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/21/2009 9:52 AM, Adam McGreggor wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 09:34:51AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >> This is a bit annoying. > > Those with an X-Mailman-Approved-At: header, par chance? Oh, right... sorry... -- Best re

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman < > forum ?

2009-12-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2009-12-21, Terri Oda (te...@zone12.com) wrote: > Not yet, but I'd like there to be, Me too... I spent weeks trying to find something a while back... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman < > forum ?

2009-12-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2009-12-21 10:01 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Are you seriously asking about what are web forums? There's about 38.63 > gazillion of them on the net. A couple I'm working on are at > > http://www.team.net/forums > > and > > http://wasatchfoodies.com Please - not to start a 'distro' war, bu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Replying to digests

2009-12-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2009-12-29, Mark Sapiro (m...@msapiro.net) wrote: > Also note that if the members subscribe to the MIME format digest (make > it the default), many MUAs allow opening an individual message from > the digest and replying to it alone. It might be easier to train your > users if they have this abil

Re: [Mailman-Users] Replying to digests

2009-12-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2009-12-29 1:43 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> I don't recall where, but I have seen some digest lists that actually >> have Reply/Forward 'links' for each message in the digest in the >> included 'headers' of each individual message

Re: [Mailman-Users] Replying to digests

2009-12-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2009-12-29 6:53 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Clare Redstone wrote: >> Thank you again for such a helpful reply. Any solutions getting Resent-To >> (Bounce?) to work through Outlook? > Try the drafts idea. There may actually be a way to directly resend a > message from outlook, but I know little abo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Help?

2009-12-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2009-12-30 8:36 AM, Lark Burger wrote: > Now > I can't figure out how to get around that and approve the poor woman. > Can you help? Privacy options > Subscription rules > Ban list? > Is it possible to remove the ban from your end so that I may approve > the membership? This is the general Ma

[Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-02 Thread Tanstaafl
Ok, I got sidetracked a long time ago, and because this isn't pressing, it went to a back-burner, but I'm ready to do this now. My apologies in advance if I'm being overly cautious, but I've avoided a lot of problems, some major, by asking a lot of questions before doing something like this that I'

[Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST

2010-05-02 Thread Tanstaafl
The second question I have is about the DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST setting... Currently, people send to my lists using listn...@example.com and everything is working fine. But, while prepping for this change I found this commented section from someone's mm_cfg.py (these comments aren't in mine for some re

[Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... final steps...

2010-05-02 Thread Tanstaafl
Lastly... Is there any special order for making these changes, or just: 1. Make the changes to mm_cfg.py per below 2. Restart mailman 3. Run $prefix/bin/withlist -l -a -r fix_url to fix all existing lists 4. Restart mailman 5. Done...? Thanks again, Charles *** My current a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST

2010-05-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-02 5:03 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > If you go to the list's listinfo page, what does it say the list posting > address is? If it says listn...@example.com, then either you had > different settings when you created the list, or you changed the list's > host_name attribute on the General Opti

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-02 5:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 5/2/2010 12:41 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> The first question I have is about POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS. In the >> FAQs about changing hostnames, this setting is not mentioned. >> >> Now, this server only hosts lists

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-02 7:02 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2010-05-02 5:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> If your list mail goes to @example.com and example.com is a local >>> domain in Postfix (i.e. in mydestinations), you don't want >>> POSTFIX_S

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-03 Thread Tanstaafl
I apologize for this taking so long to figure out, Mark... hopefully we're almost there... On 2010-05-03 12:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2010-05-02 7:02 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> This gets complicated. My question at this point is how is mail to &

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-03 5:05 PM, mailman-users-requ...@python.org wrote: > May 3 13:17:46 myhost postfix/qmgr[3930]: 265E36285BC: > from=, size=1334, nrcpt=4 (queue > active) > ^^ > NOTE: ^^ where did that come from? Sorry, that wrapped weird... May 3 13:17:46 myhost postfix/qmgr[3930]:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-03 6:24 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 5/3/2010 2:05 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >> On 2010-05-03 12:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > You're right. I confused myself because in my Postfix installation, > mydomain and myhostname have the same value. Heh... I'm more t

[Mailman-Users] Apache > Mailman VHost Config - WAS: Re: Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-04 Thread Tanstaafl
Splitting this off since it's a separate issue... On 2010-05-03 6:24 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 5/3/2010 2:05 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2010-05-03 12:32 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> What about web server changes for the lists.example.com vs. >>> myhost.example.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Apache > Mailman VHost Config - WAS: Re: Changinghost names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-04 1:44 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Isn't there something like > > ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/path/to/mailman/cgi-bin/" > > and > > Alias /pipermail/ "/path/to/mailman/archives/public/" > > in something like /etc/apache2/conf.d/50_mailman.conf? > > That should be all you need. Ah, right,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-04 1:25 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 2010-05-03 6:24 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Here's how it looks to me. It was initially set up with email domain > myhost.example.com and that is all fine. It all works as it should. > You then decided that y

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-05 10:12 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = 'example.com' > The above needs to be > > POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['example.com'] > With the one change above, this seems all good. > > P

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-05 10:12 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Please let us know how this goes. I will need to revise that FAQ. Ok, apologies for the delay, but I didn't get to this until now... It went smooth as silk and everything is running fine, but I have one minor question. Here's a log entry for a test de

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-09 5:29 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Note that I have never done exactly this, so I'm not totally certain it > will do what you want, but I think it will. I also think it probably > isn't worth maintaining a non-standard patch to do it, but only you > can answer that for yourself. I wouldn'

Re: [Mailman-Users] Changing host names, revisited... POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS?

2010-05-11 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-10 7:20 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > It turns out there was a Bug/Patch at > which is related to > this. I've fixed that for MM 2.1.14 with the attached patch which > allows you to specify VIRTUAL_MAILMAN_LOCAL_HOST in mm_cfg.py, and if > you

[Mailman-Users] Apache startup warning/error: mailman DocumentRoot?

2010-06-02 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello again, There's another annoying warning message I get that I'd like to resolve, but I only get it at startup, so I keep forgetting about it. I had to shutdown the server this morning to move it to a new UPS, and saw it again when I started the server up, so now I'm asking. I know there's som

[Mailman-Users] SOLVED - Re: Apache startup warning/error: mailman DocumentRoot?

2010-06-07 Thread Tanstaafl
Just getting back to this, and to close it out... On 2010-06-02 10:03 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> So, my question is, what should the path in >> /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/lists.example.com be pointing to? Where *is* >> the mailman DocumentRoot? > Mailman

[Mailman-Users] User Preferences

2010-10-07 Thread Tanstaafl
How does one go about defining which user prefs are available to users when they log into their users page? Is it possible to pick and choose? Hopefully without having to dog into the code? Thanks... -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@p

Re: [Mailman-Users] User Preferences

2010-10-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-07 5:50 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> How does one go about defining which user prefs are available to users >> when they log into their users page? >> >> Is it possible to pick and choose? Hopefully without having to dog into >> the

Re: [Mailman-Users] User Preferences

2010-10-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-08 3:50 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > No. The subject prefix is a list setting an there is no user option to > enable/disable it. > > User options include those things which are check boxes on the admin > Membership list page plus topics subscription and that's about it. The > default option

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman DOA after power outage crash.

2010-11-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-31 7:00 AM, "J.A. Terranson" wrote: > Thanks for the flush information: even though this was a unique > situation (every box in the rack was damaged, several beyond repair > [including the backup server]), living in the middle of the tornado > capital of the world means it could realist

[Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specify different IP:port?

2010-12-22 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I'm a little confused about how the mailman web interface works, since it doesn't use normal vhost conf files... How would I go about specifying a different IP:port for the mailman web interface? Currently, in /etc/apache2/conf/modules.d/50_mailman.conf I have: ScriptAlias /mailman/ "/u

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specify different IP:port?

2010-12-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-22 1:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> >> How would I go about specifying a different IP:port for the mailman >> web interface? >> > [...] >> >> But I'd like to specify a redirect to a specific URL, namely: >> >&g

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specify differentIP:port?

2010-12-23 Thread Tanstaafl
Thanks a lot for your help here Mark... On 2010-12-22 5:01 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> Hmmm... so, is 4.29 - which says otherwise (and which is referenced from >> the FAQ you pointed me to below)- no longer valid? >> >> http://wiki.list.org/x/7oA9 &

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-23 2:08 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> I set: >> >> DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s:#/mailman/' >> >> Where # is the 5 digit port I set it to, then I ran: >> >> # ./withlist -l -a -r fix_url >> I also added the redirect for the non-ssl host to the ssl host per the >> instructions

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-23 3:48 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: Mark wisely pointed out: > If you haven't told Apache to listen on the port you're redirecting to, > that would explain a lot. You don't necessarily need a VirtualHost > block for that IP and port, but yo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-27 7:54 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Tanstaafl writes: >>>> Is there some kind of .conf parser for apache that will show the current >>>> configs it is using, similar to 'postconf -n' for postfix? Mark replied: >>> Not that I know of.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specify differentIP:port?

2010-12-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-27 4:35 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote: >> Where do I specify the server crt/key pair for the lists.example.com >> vhost if I don't have a full blown vhost config file for it? Or can I >> just go ahead and create one (vhost config file pointing to t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-29 9:07 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > This might be related to the DocumentRoot. I don't know. I would change > the DocumentRoot for the reasons I indicate above. Done, and thanks... > That probably won't change these errors, and if it doesn't, and the > Mailman web interface continues t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-30 4:52 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > After the change to the DocRoot, now when I go to either one I get only > one error: > > mod_mime_magic: can't read `/usr/lib64/mailman/cgi-bin/admin' Forgot to ask - any other ideas on this error message? I'm looking into it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman web interface - specifydifferentIP:port?

2010-12-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-12-31 10:24 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Tanstaafl writes: >> On 2010-12-30 4:52 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> After the change to the DocRoot, now when I go to either one I get only >>> one error: >>> >>> mod_mime_magic: can't read `/

[Mailman-Users] Questions about current/future functionality

2011-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello, There is currently another (this is probably the 3rd or 4th) discussion going on right now on the tdf-discuss list (tdf = The Document Foundation, which is hosting all of the libreoffice lists) about issues with their list infrastructure... They are currently using mlmmj, and have said the

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