Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron has issues with gate_news

2016-10-13 Thread Mark Sapiro 
On 10/13/2016 08:56 AM, Dominik Hoffmann wrote:
> Another observation:
> 
> 4. Moving the Crontab from root to _mailman had no effect.


Good you moved it, but see below.


>> On Oct 13, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Dominik Hoffmann  
>> wrote:
>>
>> There are still a few of things to mop up, after an otherwise successful 
>> installation of Mailman on OS X El Capitan with Server 5.2.
>>
>> Every 5 min my admin user account on the server gets an email from the Cron 
>> Daemon that has this line:
>>
>> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
>> '/usr/local/mailman/locks/gate_news.lock.ipheion.hoffmann.homeunix.net.54220.0'


cron/gate_news is trying to create the lock and has no permission to do so.


>> Here are my observations:
>>
>> 1. I currently have no file at /usr/local/mailman/locks/ whose name starts 
>> with "gate_news".


Normally, the lock would only exist during the few (milli)seconds that
gate_news was running, but in your case it isn't even created.


>> 2. My root Crontab has these lines:
>>
>>  # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one out
>>  # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right 
>> now,
>>  # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
>>  # 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/bin/python -S 
>> /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news
>>
>>   In other words, the gate_news cron job is commented out.


OK, but there is another crontab somewhere running gate_news.

Also, Mailman's cron jobs should run as the Mailman user (usually
_mailman in FreeBSD/Darwin), not as root.

Since the gate_news entry in the crontab entry you are looking at is
commented out, there must be another crontab somewhere.

You may have a system crontab in /etc/cron.d/ or another user crontab.
Note that the format of system crontabs is different. There is an
additional field between the times/days and the command for the user to
run as.


>> 3. I have run /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f, but that has had no 
>> impact.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron has issues with gate_news

2016-10-13 Thread Dominik Hoffmann 
Another observation:

4. Moving the Crontab from root to _mailman had no effect.

> On Oct 13, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Dominik Hoffmann  wrote:
> 
> There are still a few of things to mop up, after an otherwise successful 
> installation of Mailman on OS X El Capitan with Server 5.2.
> 
> Every 5 min my admin user account on the server gets an email from the Cron 
> Daemon that has this line:
> 
> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
> '/usr/local/mailman/locks/gate_news.lock.ipheion.hoffmann.homeunix.net.54220.0'
> 
> Here are my observations:
> 
> 1. I currently have no file at /usr/local/mailman/locks/ whose name starts 
> with "gate_news".
> 
> 2. My root Crontab has these lines:
> 
>   # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one out
>   # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right 
> now,
>   # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
>   # 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/bin/python -S 
> /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news
> 
>   In other words, the gate_news cron job is commented out.
> 
> 3. I have run /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f, but that has had no 
> impact.

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[Mailman-Users] Cron has issues with gate_news

2016-10-13 Thread Dominik Hoffmann 
There are still a few of things to mop up, after an otherwise successful 
installation of Mailman on OS X El Capitan with Server 5.2.

Every 5 min my admin user account on the server gets an email from the Cron 
Daemon that has this line:

IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
'/usr/local/mailman/locks/gate_news.lock.ipheion.hoffmann.homeunix.net.54220.0'

Here are my observations:

1. I currently have no file at /usr/local/mailman/locks/ whose name starts with 
"gate_news".

2. My root Crontab has these lines:

# Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail. You can comment this one out
# if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on right 
now,
# or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of polling.
# 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/bin/python -S 
/usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news

   In other words, the gate_news cron job is commented out.

3. I have run /usr/local/mailman/bin/check_perms -f, but that has had no impact.
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