Re: [Mailman-Users] Mx Records and Mailmans use of a domain

2010-05-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ty Nelson wrote:

Lord. Sorry. Duh.  Postfix is what I use. Sorry, long day
:)


I don't know off hand how to to what you want in Postfix and no one
else has jumped in, so I suggest you ask the question on a Postfix
list. The question is:

Mailman generates alias_maps for delivering it's list mail to
appropriate pipe commands and can if necessary generate
virtual_alias_maps to map 'l...@example.com' to the local address
'list' which is in alias_maps.

How do I configure Postfix to accept and deliver this Mailman list mail
as it is currently doing via alias_maps and at the same time, relay
mail for other (non-mailman) example.com addresses to an external MX?

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[Mailman-Users] Mx Records and Mailmans use of a domain

2010-05-05 Thread Ty Nelson
Hey geniuses,


In the beginning I was initially told that a shortcut moethod of getting
mailman to work with a domain was to just remove the domains mx records.
 This has worked.  My question is, how can I make it so my domain can still
have email working on the domain, as well as mailman?  As of now, mailman is
all the domain is used for.  Probably a dumb question, but how should I
setup my domains mx records so that the hosting company email still
functions with the domain, and mailman can also use the domain?

Thanks,
-Tyler
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mx Records and Mailmans use of a domain

2010-05-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ty Nelson wrote:

In the beginning I was initially told that a shortcut moethod of getting
mailman to work with a domain was to just remove the domains mx records.
 This has worked.  My question is, how can I make it so my domain can still
have email working on the domain, as well as mailman?  As of now, mailman is
all the domain is used for.  Probably a dumb question, but how should I
setup my domains mx records so that the hosting company email still
functions with the domain, and mailman can also use the domain?


I assume the Mailman server is not the same as the hosting company's
mail server. In that case, you have two choices. You can leave your
domain with no MX and only an A record (or an MX that points to the
domain) and teach your MTA to relay non-Mailman-list mail to the
hosting company's server, or you can set your domain's MX to point to
the hosting company server and teach it to relay all Mailman list mail
to your server.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mx Records and Mailmans use of a domain

2010-05-05 Thread Ty Nelson
Perfect!  Thanks for letting me know those two options.  I think my last
question is how can I teach my MTA to relay non-Mailman-list mail to the
hosting company's server?  Is that something that is simple or should I
contact the hosting company to inquire about that?

Thanks again Mark!
-Tyler

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 Ty Nelson wrote:
 
 In the beginning I was initially told that a shortcut moethod of getting
 mailman to work with a domain was to just remove the domains mx records.
  This has worked.  My question is, how can I make it so my domain can
 still
 have email working on the domain, as well as mailman?  As of now, mailman
 is
 all the domain is used for.  Probably a dumb question, but how should I
 setup my domains mx records so that the hosting company email still
 functions with the domain, and mailman can also use the domain?


 I assume the Mailman server is not the same as the hosting company's
 mail server. In that case, you have two choices. You can leave your
 domain with no MX and only an A record (or an MX that points to the
 domain) and teach your MTA to relay non-Mailman-list mail to the
 hosting company's server, or you can set your domain's MX to point to
 the hosting company server and teach it to relay all Mailman list mail
 to your server.

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 San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mx Records and Mailmans use of a domain

2010-05-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ty Nelson wrote

Perfect!  Thanks for letting me know those two options.  I think my last
question is how can I teach my MTA to relay non-Mailman-list mail to the
hosting company's server?  Is that something that is simple or should I
contact the hosting company to inquire about that?



The answer to that depends at least in part on your MTA. Ideally you
would arrange for the MTA to just relay the non-list mail to the
hosting company's MX without altering the envelope recipient. It is
likely that the host's MX won't know how to deliver the mail if you
alter the envelope recipient. How you do this depends on your MTA.
What is it? We may be able to help if we know that, but really it's a
question for a list devoted to your MTA.

Otherwise, you could just alias u...@your.domain to
u...@host.mx.domain, but the host's MX probably won't know how to
deliver that.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mx Records and Mailmans use of a domain

2010-05-05 Thread Ty Nelson
Hmm.

GoDaddy is the main one. Another is 11. I'll look into it there though, and
thanks so much.

Best,
-Tyler

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

 Ty Nelson wrote
 
 Perfect!  Thanks for letting me know those two options.  I think my last
 question is how can I teach my MTA to relay non-Mailman-list mail to the
 hosting company's server?  Is that something that is simple or should I
 contact the hosting company to inquire about that?



 The answer to that depends at least in part on your MTA. Ideally you
 would arrange for the MTA to just relay the non-list mail to the
 hosting company's MX without altering the envelope recipient. It is
 likely that the host's MX won't know how to deliver the mail if you
 alter the envelope recipient. How you do this depends on your MTA.
 What is it? We may be able to help if we know that, but really it's a
 question for a list devoted to your MTA.

 Otherwise, you could just alias u...@your.domain to
 u...@host.mx.domain, but the host's MX probably won't know how to
 deliver that.

 --
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 San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mx Records and Mailmans use of a domain

2010-05-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ty Nelson wrote:

GoDaddy is the main one. Another is 11. I'll look into it there though, and
thanks so much.


Whan I said:

 How you do this depends on your MTA.
 What is it? We may be able to help if we know that, but really it's a
 question for a list devoted to your MTA.


I was asking about the Mail Transport Agent (e.g., Exim, sendmail,
Postfix, Qmail, ???) that runs on your Mailman host and delivers Mail
to Mailman.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mx Records and Mailmans use of a domain

2010-05-05 Thread Ty Nelson
Lord. Sorry. Duh.  Postfix is what I use. Sorry, long day
:)

On May 5, 2010 7:29 PM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:

Ty Nelson wrote:

GoDaddy is the main one. Another is 11. I'll look into it there though,
and
th...

Whan I said:

 How you do this depends on your MTA.
 What is it? We may be able to help if we kn...
I was asking about the Mail Transport Agent (e.g., Exim, sendmail,
Postfix, Qmail, ???) that runs on your Mailman host and delivers Mail
to Mailman.

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