[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0 We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Again, apologies to all for the disruption. Thanks for your patience. Jim On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 4:26 AM Stephen J. Turnbull < turnb...@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Bill Cole writes: > > > Mailman v2.2.0 is an apparently proprietary product from > > cPanel. > > Mailman v2 is under the GNU GPL v2, so please use "commercial" rather > than "proprietary". > > The GPL does not require publication of your sources, only source > distribution under the GPL to your users, who get all the rights they > need for free software. I am quite sure cPanel respects the terms of > the license, and I always have respected them for that. It is a legal > business decision to distribute source *only* to your users. We can > disagree with that decision on various grounds, of course, but it has > no effect on the freedom or legitimacy of that version of Mailman. > > As you correctly point out, it does restrict the availability of > support for cPanel Mailman 2.2 users to the vendor currently. The GNU > Mailman Project has no interest in providing it now or in the future. > > Regards, > Steve > > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: > https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ > Member address: ejnwebmas...@gmail.com > -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0 We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Thanks. I was not aware, and apologize for the bother. I'll take this matter up with cPanel. Jim On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 7:41 PM Bill Cole < mailmanu-20190...@billmail.scconsult.com> wrote: > This list is for support of GNU Mailman, a legacy tool whose latest > version is 2.1.39. It will *never* have a version 2.2.x > > Instead there's an entirely distinct GNU Mailman v3, supported on its > own mailing list. > > Mailman v2.2.0 is an apparently proprietary product from cPanel. Support > for it is best sought from cPanel, wherever they may provide support. > > On 2025-03-29 at 19:04:09 UTC-0400 (Sat, 29 Mar 2025 19:04:09 -0400) > Webmaster EnergyJustice via Mailman-Users > is rumored to have said: > > > My user is getting this error when they try to enter any of the > > name-augmented mass subscription formats in the guide: > > > > > https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20can%20I%20Mass%20Subscribe%20a%20list%20with%20real%20names > > > > I've tried other formats to no avail. I can enter plain email > > addresses > > with no difficulties. > > > > I've poked around the archives and can find nothing relevant, but > > perhaps > > I'm not looking in the right way/place. > > > > I've also updated mailman, but this seems like something our > > Linux/cPanel > > system is interfering with. > > > > I welcome and appreciate any thoughts or suggestions. > > > > Thanks, > > Jim > > -- > > Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ > > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > > Searchable Archives: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ > > Member address: mailmanu-20190...@billmail.scconsult.com > > > -- > Bill Cole > b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org > (AKA @grumpybozo@toad.social and many *@billmail.scconsult.com > addresses) > Not Currently Available For Hire > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: > https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ > Member address: ejnwebmas...@gmail.com > -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@mail-archive.com
[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0 We're sorry, we hit a bug!
Bill Cole writes: > Mailman v2.2.0 is an apparently proprietary product from > cPanel. Mailman v2 is under the GNU GPL v2, so please use "commercial" rather than "proprietary". The GPL does not require publication of your sources, only source distribution under the GPL to your users, who get all the rights they need for free software. I am quite sure cPanel respects the terms of the license, and I always have respected them for that. It is a legal business decision to distribute source *only* to your users. We can disagree with that decision on various grounds, of course, but it has no effect on the freedom or legitimacy of that version of Mailman. As you correctly point out, it does restrict the availability of support for cPanel Mailman 2.2 users to the vendor currently. The GNU Mailman Project has no interest in providing it now or in the future. Regards, Steve -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@mail-archive.com
[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0 We're sorry, we hit a bug!
On 3/29/25 16:04, Webmaster EnergyJustice via Mailman-Users wrote: My user is getting this error when they try to enter any of the name-augmented mass subscription formats in the guide: https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20can%20I%20Mass%20Subscribe%20a%20list%20with%20real%20names I've tried other formats to no avail. I can enter plain email addresses with no difficulties. I've poked around the archives and can find nothing relevant, but perhaps I'm not looking in the right way/place. I've also updated mailman, but this seems like something our Linux/cPanel system is interfering with. Mailman 2.2 is a cPanel specific fork of GNU Mailman 2.1. The Gnu Mailman project has no access to this fork. See the posts at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/message/3YIRO4T547Z65LWQYEEVWEMBQFJ544OF/ and https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/message/YWH2254OYO4WAONTXL4L335UEHC4KPTK/ for a bit more on these issues. These issues should be reported to cPanel so that cPanel can fix them. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@jab.org
[Mailman-Users] Re: Bug in Mailman version 2.2.0 We're sorry, we hit a bug!
This list is for support of GNU Mailman, a legacy tool whose latest version is 2.1.39. It will *never* have a version 2.2.x Instead there's an entirely distinct GNU Mailman v3, supported on its own mailing list. Mailman v2.2.0 is an apparently proprietary product from cPanel. Support for it is best sought from cPanel, wherever they may provide support. On 2025-03-29 at 19:04:09 UTC-0400 (Sat, 29 Mar 2025 19:04:09 -0400) Webmaster EnergyJustice via Mailman-Users is rumored to have said: My user is getting this error when they try to enter any of the name-augmented mass subscription formats in the guide: https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20can%20I%20Mass%20Subscribe%20a%20list%20with%20real%20names I've tried other formats to no avail. I can enter plain email addresses with no difficulties. I've poked around the archives and can find nothing relevant, but perhaps I'm not looking in the right way/place. I've also updated mailman, but this seems like something our Linux/cPanel system is interfering with. I welcome and appreciate any thoughts or suggestions. Thanks, Jim -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: mailmanu-20190...@billmail.scconsult.com -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo@toad.social and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@mail-archive.com
