[Mailman-Users] Re: Non-member regexps

[Mark Sapiro]

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On 2/11/21 1:59 PM, Johannes Rohr wrote:
> Does the @[NAME] expression, that accepts posts to mailing list X by
> subscribers of mailing list Y still work in mailman3? Strictly speaking,
> it is not a regexp, but I rely on it heavily.


No. That is not in Mailman 3 at this time.


> I am testing out mailman3 and I have to say, migration works much better
> than I expected! Kudos!!
> 
> However, regexps from "accept_these_nonmembers" have not been migrated,
> so I wonder if they are still recognized.


They are and they should have been migrated. If you have recent versions
of Mailman core (specifically import21) and postorius, you should see
them in Settings -> Message Acceptance.

Specifically, import21 should migrate non-regexp addresses in
*_these_nonmembers as non-members with the appropriate moderation action
and regexps into the corresponding MM 3 lists *_these_nonmembers.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Non-member regexps

[Johannes Rohr]

Does the @[NAME] expression, that accepts posts to mailing list X by
subscribers of mailing list Y still work in mailman3? Strictly speaking,
it is not a regexp, but I rely on it heavily.

I am testing out mailman3 and I have to say, migration works much better
than I expected! Kudos!!

However, regexps from "accept_these_nonmembers" have not been migrated,
so I wonder if they are still recognized.

Cheers,

Johannes

Am 29.09.20 um 17:26 schrieb Mark Sapiro:
> On 9/29/20 5:38 AM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
>> Good Day
>>
>> We are using mailman 3, and would like to whitelist a domain for acceptance
>> of messages as non-members.
>> It seems possible from my online searches, I have also tried with an online
>> python regex tester(https://www.regextester.com/94044), but I have not
>> managed to be successful.
>>
>> Below are 2 examples I have tried
>>
>> ^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
> This looks good.
>
>
>> ^[a-zA-Z0-9_.+-]+@(?:(?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]+\.)?[a-zA-Z]+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
> This is unduly complex. These regexps are matched case insensitively so
> it isn't necessary to include both a-z and A-Z. Also, I don't thing you
> need to be concerned about invalid addresses, so
>
>   ^.+@(?:.+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
>
> would do, or even simpler
>
>   ^.*[@.]noldor\.co\.za$
>
>
>> ^.+@gmail.com$
> This would allow user@gmailxcom, but probably not an issue.
>
>
>> ^.*gmail\.com$
> This is good.
>
> How are you unsuccessful? If you have say
>
>   ^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
>
> in accept_these_nonmembers, what happens when an address from that
> domain posts to the list?
>
> Note that while determination of whether a message is from a list member
> checks addresses in several things (default From:, envelope sender,
> Reply-To:, Sender), *_these_nonmembers checks only the first address
> found in From:, Sender:, envelope sender in that order by default, but
> if USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER is set True in mm_cfg.py, the order is Sender:,
> From:, envelope sender.
>
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Non-member regexps

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On 9/30/20 10:17 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

Is this Mailman 2.1 or Mailman 3? If Mailman 3, please join the
mailman-us...@mailman3.org  list at

and post there.

I will follow up once I know which Mailman this is.


No need to Mark. It is a bug with our interface. A fix will be posted today.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Non-member regexps

[Mark Sapiro]

On 9/29/20 10:22 PM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
> If I only have one address listed then the regexps work
> 
> Instructions are to have one address per line, yet this then fails
> I have tried terminating lines with commas and semicolons, neither have
> worked
> 
> This is what I have currently, each of these work if they are the only entry
> ^.+@gmail\.com$
> ^.+@noldor\.co\.za$


Is this Mailman 2.1 or Mailman 3? If Mailman 3, please join the
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and post there.

I will follow up once I know which Mailman this is.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Non-member regexps

[Mark Sapiro]

On 9/29/20 10:02 PM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
> It would seem the issue was that the sending address was already listed as
> a non-member with a default action
> Tested after clearing out the non-member and its working now


This list is for Mailman 2.1. It appears you are using Mailman 3. The
appropriate list for Mailman 3 is mailman-us...@mailman3.org
.

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[Mailman-Users] Re: Non-member regexps

[Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users]

If I only have one address listed then the regexps work

Instructions are to have one address per line, yet this then fails
I have tried terminating lines with commas and semicolons, neither have
worked

This is what I have currently, each of these work if they are the only entry
^.+@gmail\.com$
^.+@noldor\.co\.za$


On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:02 AM Daniel Krause  wrote:

> It would seem the issue was that the sending address was already listed as
> a non-member with a default action
> Tested after clearing out the non-member and its working now
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 7:29 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:
>
>> On 9/29/20 5:38 AM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
>> > Good Day
>> >
>> > We are using mailman 3, and would like to whitelist a domain for
>> acceptance
>> > of messages as non-members.
>> > It seems possible from my online searches, I have also tried with an
>> online
>> > python regex tester(https://www.regextester.com/94044), but I have not
>> > managed to be successful.
>> >
>> > Below are 2 examples I have tried
>> >
>> > ^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
>>
>> This looks good.
>>
>>
>> > ^[a-zA-Z0-9_.+-]+@(?:(?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]+\.)?[a-zA-Z]+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
>>
>> This is unduly complex. These regexps are matched case insensitively so
>> it isn't necessary to include both a-z and A-Z. Also, I don't thing you
>> need to be concerned about invalid addresses, so
>>
>>   ^.+@(?:.+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
>>
>> would do, or even simpler
>>
>>   ^.*[@.]noldor\.co\.za$
>>
>>
>> > ^.+@gmail.com$
>>
>> This would allow user@gmailxcom, but probably not an issue.
>>
>>
>> > ^.*gmail\.com$
>>
>> This is good.
>>
>> How are you unsuccessful? If you have say
>>
>>   ^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
>>
>> in accept_these_nonmembers, what happens when an address from that
>> domain posts to the list?
>>
>> Note that while determination of whether a message is from a list member
>> checks addresses in several things (default From:, envelope sender,
>> Reply-To:, Sender), *_these_nonmembers checks only the first address
>> found in From:, Sender:, envelope sender in that order by default, but
>> if USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER is set True in mm_cfg.py, the order is Sender:,
>> From:, envelope sender.
>>
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Non-member regexps

[Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users]

It would seem the issue was that the sending address was already listed as
a non-member with a default action
Tested after clearing out the non-member and its working now

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 7:29 PM Mark Sapiro  wrote:

> On 9/29/20 5:38 AM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > Good Day
> >
> > We are using mailman 3, and would like to whitelist a domain for
> acceptance
> > of messages as non-members.
> > It seems possible from my online searches, I have also tried with an
> online
> > python regex tester(https://www.regextester.com/94044), but I have not
> > managed to be successful.
> >
> > Below are 2 examples I have tried
> >
> > ^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
>
> This looks good.
>
>
> > ^[a-zA-Z0-9_.+-]+@(?:(?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]+\.)?[a-zA-Z]+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
>
> This is unduly complex. These regexps are matched case insensitively so
> it isn't necessary to include both a-z and A-Z. Also, I don't thing you
> need to be concerned about invalid addresses, so
>
>   ^.+@(?:.+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$
>
> would do, or even simpler
>
>   ^.*[@.]noldor\.co\.za$
>
>
> > ^.+@gmail.com$
>
> This would allow user@gmailxcom, but probably not an issue.
>
>
> > ^.*gmail\.com$
>
> This is good.
>
> How are you unsuccessful? If you have say
>
>   ^.+@noldor\.co\.za$
>
> in accept_these_nonmembers, what happens when an address from that
> domain posts to the list?
>
> Note that while determination of whether a message is from a list member
> checks addresses in several things (default From:, envelope sender,
> Reply-To:, Sender), *_these_nonmembers checks only the first address
> found in From:, Sender:, envelope sender in that order by default, but
> if USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER is set True in mm_cfg.py, the order is Sender:,
> From:, envelope sender.
>
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[Mailman-Users] Re: Non-member regexps

[Mark Sapiro]

On 9/29/20 5:38 AM, Daniel Krause via Mailman-Users wrote:
> Good Day
> 
> We are using mailman 3, and would like to whitelist a domain for acceptance
> of messages as non-members.
> It seems possible from my online searches, I have also tried with an online
> python regex tester(https://www.regextester.com/94044), but I have not
> managed to be successful.
> 
> Below are 2 examples I have tried
> 
> ^.+@noldor\.co\.za$

This looks good.


> ^[a-zA-Z0-9_.+-]+@(?:(?:[a-zA-Z0-9-]+\.)?[a-zA-Z]+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$

This is unduly complex. These regexps are matched case insensitively so
it isn't necessary to include both a-z and A-Z. Also, I don't thing you
need to be concerned about invalid addresses, so

  ^.+@(?:.+\.)?noldor\.co\.za$

would do, or even simpler

  ^.*[@.]noldor\.co\.za$


> ^.+@gmail.com$

This would allow user@gmailxcom, but probably not an issue.


> ^.*gmail\.com$

This is good.

How are you unsuccessful? If you have say

  ^.+@noldor\.co\.za$

in accept_these_nonmembers, what happens when an address from that
domain posts to the list?

Note that while determination of whether a message is from a list member
checks addresses in several things (default From:, envelope sender,
Reply-To:, Sender), *_these_nonmembers checks only the first address
found in From:, Sender:, envelope sender in that order by default, but
if USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER is set True in mm_cfg.py, the order is Sender:,
From:, envelope sender.

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