Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Sender Posts

2017-04-17 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/17/2017 03:00 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> 
> Summary:
> In eg http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/admin/test/members/list
> next to column "mod" there would be a 2nd column eg "self discard".
> - "mod" would as before be set by admin to block & store for review.

Or reject or discard based on member_moderation_action.


> - "self discard" would discard posts from member, set by member.


And presumably, unlike mod, this would also be exposed on the user's
options page.

In any case, thanks for the suggestion, but even if you submitted an
implementation, this would not be implemented in MM 2.1. I don't see
sufficient interest in this feature to justify implementing it in MM
2.1, and adding it to the list of features that need to be forward
ported to MM 3.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Sender Posts

2017-04-17 Thread Julian H. Stacey

Top posting is bad. 
Failing to indent prior text with "> " is bad.
Corrected below:

Gretchen R Beck wrote:
> Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> > Hi mailman-users@python.org
> > Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Posts From Sender
> > http://berklix.org/~jhs/help/majordomo/#discard_sender
> > 
> > Reason: A mailman list member got his address book harvested by a spammer,
> > twice spammed a mailman list I run, I removed list member, asked
> > member to rejoin with an address spammer did not know was subscribed
> > to list.  Another list member suggested I could instead personaly
> > moderate all future mail from the spammer harvested address.
> > http://berklix.org/~jhs/help/majordomo/#harvested
> > 
> > PS (ignore "majordomo" in URLs, I just havent moved text yet.)

> Couldn't you just do individuals subscribers  as a spam filter within the 
> Privacy options?

No.

- There's no automatic individual linkage between eg
http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/admin/test/privacy/spam
  & list member entries in eg
http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/admin/test/members

- Privacy options are controlled by admin, not list members.
  For multiple reasons in 
http://berklix.org/~jhs/help/majordomo/#harvested
  the intent is to Avoid burdening admins to waste time for indivduals,
  turning their discard bits off & on.

- Intent is to empower members to disable & enable their personal discard
  options when they choose (perhaps just enabling for a few minutes if they
  normaly just read a list & rarely have something to post) .

  Those who still continued to emit spam could be removed as before, 
  but admin would also instead have the extra option of enabling
  list member's Enable Transmit Discard, & it would be in the right
  place where list member could personaly, without admin help Disable
  again to post, if wanted.

Summary:
In eg http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/admin/test/members/list
next to column "mod" there would be a 2nd column eg "self discard".
- "mod" would as before be set by admin to block & store for review.
- "self discard" would discard posts from member, set by member.

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Sender Posts

2017-04-16 Thread Gretchen R Beck
Couldn't you just do individuals subscribers  as a spam filter within the 
Privacy options?

Gretchen Beck
Carnegie Mellon

From: Mailman-Users <mailman-users-bounces+cmupythia=cmu@python.org> on 
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Subject: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or 
bounce] Sender Posts

Hi mailman-users@python.org
Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Posts From Sender
http://berklix.org/~jhs/help/majordomo/#discard_sender

Reason: A mailman list member got his address book harvested by a spammer,
twice spammed a mailman list I run, I removed list member, asked
member to rejoin with an address spammer did not know was subscribed
to list.  Another list member suggested I could instead personaly
moderate all future mail from the spammer harvested address.
http://berklix.org/~jhs/help/majordomo/#harvested

PS (ignore "majordomo" in URLs, I just havent moved text yet.)

PPS Thanks to Mark S & others for replies 22 Mar on "compare lists setup"
still not got back to that - world spins too fast ;-)

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Sender Posts

2017-04-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/16/2017 04:27 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> Hi mailman-users@python.org
> Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Posts From Sender 


How about setting the user to moderated and setting
member_moderation_action to discard?

If it's just this one (or a few) addresses, that might do what you want.
It wouldn't require moderator action on each post, but it's still an
admin setting, not a user setting. Obviously, if there are other users
who are moderated for other reasons, this won't work, but it woud
address a few of your objections in the "Could List Owners Set Moderated
Bit For Members Who Don't Want To Post ?" section in


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[Mailman-Users] Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Sender Posts

2017-04-16 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi mailman-users@python.org
Suggestion: Add a new binary flag: "Discard [or bounce] Posts From Sender 
http://berklix.org/~jhs/help/majordomo/#discard_sender

Reason: A mailman list member got his address book harvested by a spammer,
twice spammed a mailman list I run, I removed list member, asked
member to rejoin with an address spammer did not know was subscribed
to list.  Another list member suggested I could instead personaly
moderate all future mail from the spammer harvested address.
http://berklix.org/~jhs/help/majordomo/#harvested

PS (ignore "majordomo" in URLs, I just havent moved text yet.)

PPS Thanks to Mark S & others for replies 22 Mar on "compare lists setup"
still not got back to that - world spins too fast ;-)

Cheers,
Julian
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