On 3/20/15 8:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program
will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came
from a list and offer a Reply to List option in addition
On 3/19/2015 9:15 PM, Richard Damon rich...@damon-family.org wrote:
Another reason that I have been told by some people that they want
people to top post is that their client will show in the message list a
summary of the first line of the message, and they want that to be the
new content
On 03/31/2015 11:28 AM, Dean Suhr wrote:
1) We want all replies to go to the list, however, we do not want the
sender’s email disclosed (this are medical discussion lists and we need to
preserve some basic contact privacy)
OK
2) We DO want the sender’s name to be visible as part of the
Hi Mark,
Our subscriber dynamic on our discussion lists is slightly different. While
Mailman may eliminate the duplicate email sends to folks who have their
messages replied to by readers, is important that we achieve two things with
our list messages:
1) We want all replies to go to the
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015, Peter Shute wrote:
Have you ever been in the situation where you're waiting ...
Many of us deal with this by creating a message rule that filters the
unimportant list mail to a folder to be read at leisure.
I have procmail rules which filter particular e-mails to
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 02:31:08PM +1100, Peter Shute wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
The default for MS Outlook seems to be HTML rather than Rich Text.
What Outlook, Hotmail etc. call Rich Text is in fact HTML,
not to be confused with Microsoft's interchange Rich Text Format, RTF.
On 3/24/2015 10:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
What Outlook, Hotmail etc. call Rich Text is in fact HTML, not to be
confused with Microsoft's interchange Rich Text Format, RTF.
And Outlook's 'HTML' is badly broken due to its reliance on the Word
HTML rendering engine.
Why
On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 08:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 3/24/2015 10:30 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
What Outlook, Hotmail etc. call Rich Text is in fact HTML, not to be
confused with Microsoft's interchange Rich Text Format, RTF.
And Outlook's 'HTML' is badly broken due
In a message of Wed, 25 Mar 2015 08:34:32 +1100, Peter Shute writes:
Thanks for that bit of reply style history! I've only been using
email since quoting became a common feature, so I never saw this
before and after effect. Have you seen a reduction in this dressing
down style of reply since
At Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:42:23 +0900 Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org
wrote:
Peter Shute writes:
I've seen a plain text section that didn't match the html version
(if I'm remembering that incident correctly).
Indeed, occasionally you'll see the arrogant your MUA doesn't deal
I don't remember now who it was that was trying to write a 'how to use mail'
document for their users, but I have a suggestion.
A lot of the time, what you really want is to get rid of all of the quoted
material altogether. A bit of usenet history is of interest here. In
the very old days, we
Mark Sapiro wrote:
But this time I tried unticking the Plain option for my
subscription. I was surprised to see that they did start
coming through as individual attachements, and that I could
open them and reply to them properly. This works in both
Outlook and iOS Mail.
But all I
Laura Creighton wrote:
A lot of the time, what you really want is to get rid of all
of the quoted material altogether. A bit of usenet history
is of interest here. In the very old days, we didn't have a
way to quote any mail at all. We didn't have threads, either.
.
.
.
This happened
Lindsay Haisley wrote:
And if html wasn't the default for so many clients.
Don't get me started! To the best of my knowledge, there is
no unified standard for HTML-ized email. Microsoft has Rich
Text, Apple has another standard. Digests can get mucked up
The default for MS Outlook
On 03/24/2015 02:53 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
But all I see is an index and a long list of unnamed
attachments. If I want to read them, I have to open them one
by one to see what's in them, or look at the index numbers
and count through the attachements to find the right one. Is
this
On 03/24/2015 02:03 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
But this time I tried unticking the Plain option for my subscription. I was
surprised to see that they did start coming through as individual
attachements, and that I could open them and reply to them properly. This
works in both Outlook and iOS
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
Subscribing in digest mode allows me to receive one
cumulative post per day
which is something many people can appreciate (at least those
who
In a message of Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:55:36 -0500, Lindsay Haisley writes:
I know of exactly one that's proper in this regard. One of the
reasons I keep Evolution as my primary MUA is because it allows me to
extract a message/rfc822 part from a multipart/mixed MIME structure and
save it _as an
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:22:24AM +1100, Peter Shute wrote:
Do we really need anything more than the ability to bold and
underline?
Butterick (and I agree entirely with him here) is against underlining:
http://practicaltypography.com/underlining.html
I'd be happy with some of the basic
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
The default for MS Outlook seems to be HTML rather than Rich Text.
What Outlook, Hotmail etc. call Rich Text is in fact HTML,
not to be confused with Microsoft's interchange Rich Text Format, RTF.
Outlook offers Plain text, HTML and Rich text as formatting options,
Peter Shute writes:
But this time I tried unticking the Plain option for my
subscription. I was surprised to see that they did start coming
through as individual attachements, and that I could open them and
reply to them properly. This works in both Outlook and iOS Mail.
But all I
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:22:24AM +1100, Peter Shute wrote:
Lindsay Haisley wrote:
And if html wasn't the default for so many clients.
Don't get me started! To the best of my knowledge, there is
no unified standard for HTML-ized email. Microsoft has Rich
Text, Apple has another
Peter Shute writes:
I've seen a plain text section that didn't match the html version
(if I'm remembering that incident correctly).
Indeed, occasionally you'll see the arrogant your MUA doesn't deal
with MIME properly notice in a text/plain MIME part, rather than in
the preamble.
On Wed, 2015-03-25 at 10:42 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Yes, whether we like it or not. It's a pity though that such
complex HTML is used. Do we really need anything more than the
ability to bold and underline? I'd be happy with some of the basic
Structured Text formatting
Lindsay Haisley writes:
One of two things is eventually going to have to happen. Either people
who design and publish standards for email are going to have to come to
agreement on a proper standard for this kind of content
enhancement,
We have that, IMO. It's called HTML5 + link
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
I know of exactly one that's proper in this regard. One of the
reasons I keep Evolution as my primary MUA is because it allows me to
extract a message/rfc822 part from a multipart/mixed MIME structure and
save it _as an email_ in the mail folder of
On 3/24/2015 8:59 AM, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
How can mail interrupt? [...]
Mail arrives all the time anyway, so people need to be able to deal with that.
Exactly. Mail arrives when it does and I read it when I do. I really don't
know why so many people feel compelled to check each message as
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
Subscribing in digest mode allows me to receive one cumulative post per
day
which is something many people can appreciate (at least those who
subscribe to mailing list, and then complain because they
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
digest mode allows o receive one cumulative post per day
which is something many people can appreciate (at
Thomas Gramstad wrote:
Subscribing in digest mode allows me to receive one cumulative post
per day (about, unless there is more traffic) and deal with
them not
interrupting my other activities.
A proper MUA shall allow to read each message in the digest
as if it
were a single
Carl Zwanzig wrote:
How can mail interrupt? [...]
Mail arrives all the time anyway, so people need to be able
to deal with that.
Exactly. Mail arrives when it does and I read it when I do. I
really don't know why so many people feel compelled to check
each message as it arrives.
On 3/22/2015 12:14 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
Nowhere in the visible UI is Smart Reply mentioned, nor is it listed
in the preferences menu. This may be a default of the installation
rather than of of T-bird itself.
If you get into customize mode for that toolbar (right-click on
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 05:45:58PM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
I do understand that in some business situations (contract negotiations,
attorney/client communication and the like), it is useful and pretty
much demanded that each message contain the full transcript of what went
before,
I don't
A.K. Eyma a...@tip.nl wrote:
snip
Having all mail of a list come in with [listname] first in each subject line
is more tidy. In that way you would differentiate at one glance in your inbox
between
Filtering maillist messages to a folder per list is a far more tidy way of
dealing with the
On Mar 21, 2015, at 19:52 PM, William Bagwell rb...@tds.net wrote:
On Saturday 21 March 2015, Al Black wrote:
Although the ideal solution is obviously users changing their behaviour
and or MUAs, I've wondered whether an auto-trim function within mailman
would make sense (for digest
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 13:07 +0100, Roel Wagenaar wrote:
Filtering maillist messages to a folder per list is a far more tidy way of
dealing with the problem of identifying messages.
I did run into a minor issue with this regarding IMAP retrieval of mail.
It's important, in general, to make sure
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015, Al Black wrote:
Further to the point, between top posting and lack of editing, the digest
format of list posts are essentially unreadable.
Do you mean the MIME digests produced by mailman ? I totally disagree, they
are one
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 20:06 +0100, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
I didn't. You misattributed a previous post to me.
I'm sorry, my bad. I got tangled up in the quote levels. Lucio
Chiappetti said it.
A proper MUA shall allow to read each message in the digest as if it were
a single e-mail (and
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:23 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
I know of exactly one that's proper in this regard. One of the
reasons I keep Evolution as my primary MUA is because it allows me to
extract a message/rfc822 part from a multipart/mixed MIME
On 03/23/2015 02:54 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015, Al Black wrote:
Further to the point, between top posting and lack of editing, the
digest format of list posts are essentially unreadable.
Do you mean the MIME digests produced by mailman ? I totally disagree,
they are
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:58 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Yes. The MIME type of the digest part is multipart/digest. The
individual messages are message/rfc822 sub-parts.
So ideally, a proper MUA should be able to extract and deal with the
message/rfc822 sub-parts as emails in their own right.
On 03/23/2015 11:34 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
T-bird comes close, but no cigar. I've tinkered with it to try to make
it do what Thomas suggested was proper (with which I agree). T-bird
treats a message/rfc822 attachment as it would a text/plain attachment.
You can do whatever you wish
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 12:20 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Interestingly, there is an undigestify add-on for T-bird
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/undigestify/.
It will explode a digest into individual messages in the same folder,
but it only works with RFC 1153 digests
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
Every modern (typically GUI) MUA I know of has ...
I use a non-GUI MUA (Alpine) and I find it has all the features I can
imagine to want (some of which were user programmed)
I think modern MUAs in widespread use (with the exception of
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015, Al Black wrote:
Further to the point, between top posting and lack of editing, the
digest format of list posts are essentially unreadable.
Do you mean the MIME digests produced by mailman ? I totally disagree,
they are one of the best features.
Subscribing in digest
Usenet over UUCP via 300 baud modems on backbone servers with 5MB
disks.[1]
I adverse top-posting (and entire quoting of the whole replied message, or
worst, thread) NOT because it is wasting bandwidth, NOT because it is
wasting diskspace when archived ... but because it is disturbing to me
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 17:46 +0100, Thomas Gramstad wrote:
A proper MUA shall allow to read each message in the digest as if it were a
single e-mail (and reply, archive, forward etc. etc.).
I know of exactly one that's proper in this regard. One of the
reasons I keep Evolution as my primary
On 03/23/2015 11:44 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
I haven't dealt with MIME-format digests from MM for quite a while. I
assume that these are functionally attachments with a MIME type of
message/rfc822, yes?
Yes. The MIME type of the digest part is multipart/digest. The
individual messages
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:23 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
It will display all
messages in a multipart/digest inline, but also list them as
'attachments'
I haven't dealt with MIME-format digests from MM for quite a while. I
assume that these are functionally attachments with a MIME type of
On 03/23/2015 10:55 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
I know of exactly one that's proper in this regard. One of the
reasons I keep Evolution as my primary MUA is because it allows me to
extract a message/rfc822 part from a multipart/mixed MIME structure and
save it _as an email_ in the mail
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:23 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
I know of exactly one that's proper in this regard. One of the
reasons I keep Evolution as my primary MUA is because it allows me to
extract a message/rfc822 part from a multipart/mixed MIME structure and
save it _as an email_ in the
Hey everyone,
On 2015-03-23, at 1:26 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 03/23/2015 02:54 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015, Al Black wrote:
Further to the point, between top posting and lack of editing, the
digest format of list posts are essentially unreadable.
Do you mean the
On 03/23/2015 04:06 PM, Al Black wrote:
I spent a few hours yesterday thinking about a cleaner to improve the
signal noise for the kind of posts were talking about. Not a simple problem
to solve (well for me anyway).
It's a very hard problem. You can see some of my attempts at this at
Lindsay Haisley writes:
On Mon, 2015-03-23 at 11:58 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Yes. The MIME type of the digest part is multipart/digest. The
individual messages are message/rfc822 sub-parts.
So ideally, a proper MUA should be able to extract and deal with the
message/rfc822
Al Black writes:
I spent a few hours yesterday thinking about a cleaner to improve
the signal noise for the kind of posts were talking about. Not a
simple problem to solve (well for me anyway).
If you're serious about maintaining the relevant content, it's *very*
hard (requires AI natural
On Don, 2015-03-19 at 17:45 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
[...]
also +1 for the quote only relevant and answer inline directly below
it style - an email is written once and read (hopefully;-) more often
so it is actually extremely unfriendly (because time killing) to all
others to make a mail not as
On Saturday 21 March 2015, Larry Kuenning wrote:
Settable by which user? The sender or the recipient?
Recipient of course, sender has no way of knowing what the recipient prefers.
And wouldn't a default of removing all but one level of quoted text make
nonsense of some posts? E.g. in the
On Mar 21, 2015, at 10:40 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com
In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program
will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came
from a list
On 3/20/2015 8:38 PM, Richard Damon rich...@damon-family.org wrote:
Thunderbird isn't quite like that, but when I reply to a message from
the list I am given 3 options:
Reply
Reply All
Reply to List
Do you mean that you see a single button with a drop-down that provides
these three
On 3/20/2015 2:48 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 14:37 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
No, the point is you apparently can't simply acknowledge that you
mis-spoke/made a mistake.
Tanstaafl, it it will make you happy, I _officially_ acknowledge that I
made a
On 3/21/2015 12:55 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
If I were writing an MUA, I'd make each addressee a button which
replies to them only.[1] For the explicit reply button, I'd
automatically put the list-post and author in To:, provide an obvious
delete button on each (as
On Sun, 2015-03-22 at 11:32 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 3/20/2015 8:38 PM, Richard Damon rich...@damon-family.org wrote:
Thunderbird isn't quite like that, but when I reply to a message from
the list I am given 3 options:
Reply
Reply All
Reply to List
Do you mean that you see a
On Sun, 2015-03-22 at 11:52 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 3/20/2015 2:48 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 14:37 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
No, the point is you apparently can't simply acknowledge that you
mis-spoke/made a mistake.
Tanstaafl, it it will make you
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 13:39:00 +0900
Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Hello Stephen,
Usenet over UUCP via 300 baud modems on backbone servers with 5MB
disks.[1]
Same went for FTNs, etc.
--
Regards _
/ ) The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:52:19 -0400
Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
Hello Tanstaafl,
On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the
program will analyze the headers, determine that the post being
replied to
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 22:39 -0500, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
I think users who prefer top-posting are mostly giving into their MUA's
defaults. I don't think most users face MUA inability to edit quoted
material. I find the users are also unwilling to put more time into
editing, so they
Barry Warsaw wrote:
I've always found it proper and useful to include the quoted material
of the original message, but trim the quotes to just the bit you are
responding to. I'd call this interleaved-with-trimming.
Top posting has always been a serious breach of netiquette.
I concur and I
On 2015-03-20, at 9:39 PM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
Barry Warsaw wrote:
I've always found it proper and useful to include the quoted material
of the original message, but trim the quotes to just the bit you are
responding to. I'd call this interleaved-with-trimming.
Top posting has
On 3/21/2015 8:52 PM, William Bagwell wrote:
On Saturday 21 March 2015, Al Black wrote:
Although the ideal solution is obviously users changing their behaviour
and or MUAs, I've wondered whether an auto-trim function within mailman
would make sense (for digest users...)
Yes! For every one,
- Original Message -
From: Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com
In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program
will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came
from a list and offer a Reply to List option in addition to a simple
reply, which
- Original Message -
From: Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org
On Mar 20, 2015, at 08:19 AM, Andrew Stuart wrote:
When I reply to a message on a mailing list, what is the “right” way
to do it?
Should I be deleting previous thread text from my response?
Should I be adding anything in?
Of
On Saturday 21 March 2015, Al Black wrote:
Although the ideal solution is obviously users changing their behaviour
and or MUAs, I've wondered whether an auto-trim function within mailman
would make sense (for digest users...)
Yes! For every one, not just digest users. And it should default
On 22 Mar 2015, at 1:28 pm, Larry Kuenning la...@qhpress.org wrote:
It seems to me correct editing of quotation sequences requires human
thought, not just mechanical text manipulation. Even though some people
expect their computers to think for them.
I'd be happier if more clients at
On Sun, 2015-03-22 at 14:08 +1100, Peter Shute wrote:
On 22 Mar 2015, at 1:28 pm, Larry Kuenning la...@qhpress.org wrote:
It seems to me correct editing of quotation sequences requires human
thought, not just mechanical text manipulation. Even though some people
expect their
Le 20/03/2015 08:16, Peter Shute a écrit :
Getting off the subject, do you mean selecting quoted text, or any
text? I've never used an Android device, and I assumed that this kind
of basic task would be easier than on an iPhone. Perhaps not.
selecting old text to trim it. May be I have too
On 20 Mar 2015, at 6:20 pm, jdd j...@dodin.org wrote:
Le 20/03/2015 08:16, Peter Shute a écrit :
Getting off the subject, do you mean selecting quoted text, or any
text? I've never used an Android device, and I assumed that this kind
of basic task would be easier than on an iPhone.
Le 20/03/2015 01:45, Mark Sapiro a écrit :
This is a major hot-button issue for me, The above is only scratching
the surface.
smartphones makes things horrible, on android, selecting text for
deletion is nearly impossible :-((
jdd
--
On 20 Mar 2015, at 6:05 pm, jdd j...@dodin.org wrote:
Le 20/03/2015 01:45, Mark Sapiro a écrit :
This is a major hot-button issue for me, The above is only scratching
the surface.
smartphones makes things horrible, on android, selecting text for
deletion is nearly impossible :-((
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015, Andrew Stuart wrote:
When I reply to a message on a mailing list, what is the ???right??? way
to do it?
Not sure if there is a right way for everybody. Definitely there is a way
I like it to happen and ways which I find extremely annoying.
Should I be deleting
On 3/20/15 9:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program
will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came
from a list and offer a Reply to List option in addition
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 10:07 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
I'm sure I'm proudly in the minority, but I use Claws Mail almost
exclusively
and it has very good reply-to-list support.
Sounds like Thunderbird's 'Smart Reply' button, which I really like, but
don't use much because I can't place it
On 03/20/2015 06:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program
will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came
from a list and offer a Reply to List option in
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 09:52 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program
will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came
from a list and offer a Reply to List option in addition to a simple
reply, which generally goes
Sent from the Dehut/Haisley iPad
email househ...@fmp.com
On Mar 20, 2015, at 12:29 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
Lindsay Haisley writes:
As far as editing, top posting, bottom posting, etc. it's just a matter
of using good sense.
This list strongly prefers
On 3/20/2015 10:03 AM, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote:
On 03/20/2015 06:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program
will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied
On 3/20/2015 1:29 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
I don't know of anybody who prefers bottom-posting (and it's a bad
idea to use that term as I've seen newbies instructed to bottom-post
do exactly that, leaving 50 lines of original text and adding two
lines at the bottom).
On 3/19/2015 6:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button the program
will analyze the headers, determine that the post being replied to came
from a list and offer a Reply to List option in addition to a simple
reply, which generally
On Mar 20, 2015, at 03:23 AM, Peter Shute psh...@nuw.org.au wrote:
If you're referring to the problem of getting the selection boundaries in
exactly the right spot, I'm well familiar with that. So easy to get them
within one or two characters, but requires excessive concentration and
While in the topic of replying, why does mailman put the
Re: before the [listname]? Or rather inserts the list
name after the Re: ? (For you send it out as Re: The right way)
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way to reply to a mailing
list
It likely is my odd taste, and perhaps
On Mar 20, 2015, at 09:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
I'd really like to know which email user agents really do this.
In my experience, none of the ones used by 99+% of the worlds population
actually use do this.
I'm sure I'm proudly in the minority, but I use Claws Mail almost exclusively
and it has
On 3/20/15 8:27 AM, A.K. Eyma wrote:
Having all mail of a list come in with [listname] first in
each subject line is more tidy. In that way you would
differentiate at one glance in your inbox between
Re: [Mailman-Users] The right way
for responses that have been sent offlist to you
and
On 3/20/2015 9:58 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@list.org wrote:
On Mar 20, 2015, at 09:52 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
I'd really like to know which email user agents really do this.
In my experience, none of the ones used by 99+% of the worlds population
actually use do this.
I'm sure I'm proudly in
On 3/20/2015 10:27 AM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
My MUA of choice is Evolution, formerly from Ximian but now a gnome GPL
project. It has this feature, as does Thunderbird, which is fairly
popular. I was under the impression that Outlook and/or Outlook Express
had it too, but I'm
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 10:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
Ummm... this is not what you said initially.
You said In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button
the program will analyze the headers, determine that the post being
replied to came from a list and offer a Reply to List
Lindsay Haisley writes:
I never quite understood all the fuss about top posting.
Usenet over UUCP via 300 baud modems on backbone servers with 5MB
disks.[1]
The reason behind quoting in the first place is to provide context
for a reply, but some MUAs make it very difficult to not top
jdd writes:
Le 20/03/2015 01:45, Mark Sapiro a écrit :
This is a major hot-button issue for me, The above is only scratching
the surface.
smartphones makes things horrible, on android, selecting text for
deletion is nearly impossible :-((
This is true.
On many lists I
On 03/19/2015 10:39 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Andrew Stuart writes:
and does it matter what other addresses go into to and cc fields.
It doesn't matter for mechanical purposes. To, CC, and BCC are all
routed the same way (using RCPT TO aka envelope recipient at the
SMTP level),
On 3/20/2015 11:09 AM, Lindsay Haisley fmo...@fmp.com wrote:
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 10:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
You said In many mail user agents, when you press the Reply button
the program will analyze the headers, determine that the post being
replied to came from a list and offer a Reply
On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 14:37 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
Only superficially. The point is that both of these MUAs are
list-aware
and offer options appropriately.
No, the point is you apparently can't simply acknowledge that you
mis-spoke/made a mistake.
Tanstaafl, it it will make you happy,
I was thinking that people new to using Mailman could get a very simple email
“welcome to this list” on subscription, with brief pointers on how to do
things. To the uninitiated there might be a sense of not wanting to engage for
fear of breaking something or doing it wrong.
I’m certain that
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