Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

On 08/19/2017 08:31 AM, Steve Wehr wrote: > > Some further info... I was including a link at the bottom of all emails sent > by mailman (in the msg_footer field: > "Click this link to unsubscribe: > %(user_optionsurl)s?password=%(user_password)s=1=1" > > I thought perhaps users were

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

t; Tunedin Web Design > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Keith Seyffarth [mailto:w...@weif.net] > > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:55 AM > > To: Steve Wehr > > Cc: mailman-users@python.org > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed wi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

Is it possible that others sharing the same ISP could have been spam-marking and this has led to other subs on ISP getting removed? I had a spate of nyu.edu unsubs a while back that and that seemed to possibly be the case. I had to resub people using alt emails. On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:55

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

Julian H. Stacey writes: > Some people are clueless thus forward without pruning. While I strongly agree with you that pruning is a great idea, and award bonus points to those who prune, I think "clueless" is unfair. Granted, "leaking" personalized links is a pretty serious issue and people

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

In article <7e0bd0e4-b837-4d76-3c14-a0b6dfda9...@tnetconsulting.net> you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >On 08/21/2017 02:08 PM, John Levine wrote: >> which defines a one-click opt-out link that uses POST rather than GET, >> since the URL malware fetchers all do GETs. > >Why do single click?

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

On 08/21/2017 02:08 PM, John Levine wrote: There are plenty of anti-spam schemes that fetch all the URLs in a message to see whether they're malicious. That's why ESPs usually have a landing page with a confirm link, and why we wrote RFC 8058 which defines a one-click opt-out link that uses

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

In article <201708210145.v7l1io7x003...@fire.js.berklix.net> you write: >> Maybe this would foil ISPs who are automatically following this link to >> unsubscribe people. Do ISPs really do this? There are plenty of anti-spam schemes that fetch all the URLs in a message to see whether they're

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

"Steve Wehr" wrote: > That's the best theory I have heard so far to explain the facts. > > The user's in question, who are being unsubscribed without asking to be, are > people who like the mailing lists they are on, and would not be flagging > emails from the list as spam. Now their ISP might,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

__ > Steve Wehr > Tunedin Web Design > > -Original Message- > From: Keith Seyffarth [mailto:w...@weif.net] > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:55 AM > To: Steve Wehr > Cc: mailman-users@python.org > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without r

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

_ Steve Wehr Tunedin Web Design -Original Message- From: Keith Seyffarth [mailto:w...@weif.net] Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:55 AM To: Steve Wehr Cc: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it. "Steve Wehr"

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

On Aug 19, 2017, at 8:27 AM, Steve Wehr wrote: subscribe:Aug 18 00:41:10 2017 (22583) saintsofswing: deleted dorrainescofi...@gmail.com; via the member options page Steve, if this was done via the web interface the first thing I would do is get the date/timestamp for

Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

"Steve Wehr" writes: > The problem is that when contacted, these users swear they DID NOT > unsubscribe themselves. So how can they be getting unsubscribed (with > messages in the logs like the one above) but they are not going to the > member options page and

[Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

I host about a hundred lists and from time to time the list owners keep telling me that users are being unsubscribed from the list without asking to be. Now I assume these users are just being removed for bouncing, but when I check the mailman log files in /var/log/mailman I see this: