Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming lists - how to change the list real_name afterwards

2008-07-18 Thread Mark Sapiro

Aidan C A Hopkins at Wemail wrote:


Strange - I still get exactly the same error! The new list name I am 
using is exactly as included in the URI; I have tried all lowercase or 
even with the first letter uppercase - doesn't help.


The admin screen still shows the old name in the title line, twice right 
at the bottom, in the overview page, the name of the archives and so on. 
The URI of all these is showing the new name.


Could it be a permission problem on some file which is effectively hidden 
unless one knows where to look?!



I don't think so. It is a simple check of the entry for real_name 
against the list's internal name.


You can try the following in the Mailman directory:

$ bin/withlist -l newname
Loading list newname (locked)
The variable `m' is the newname MailList instance
 m.real_name
'OldName'
 m.real_name = 'NewName'
 m.Save()

Unlocking (but not saving) list: newname
Finalizing
$

You type the withlist command, and within withlist, you type the 
responses to the  prompts. On the  last line, your entry is 
control-D (end of file)


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming lists - how to change the list real_name afterwards

2008-07-18 Thread Aidan C A Hopkins
On 18 Jul 2008 at 8:11, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 Aidan C A Hopkins at Wemail wrote:
  
  Strange - I still get exactly the same error! The new list name I am
  using is exactly as included in the URI; I have tried all lowercase or
  even with the first letter uppercase - doesn't help.
  
  The admin screen still shows the old name in the title line, twice right
  at the bottom, in the overview page, the name of the archives and so on.
  The URI of all these is showing the new name.
  
  Could it be a permission problem on some file which is effectively
  hidden unless one knows where to look?!
 
 
 I don't think so. It is a simple check of the entry for real_name 
 against the list's internal name.
 
 You can try the following in the Mailman directory:
 
 $ bin/withlist -l newname
 Loading list newname (locked)
 The variable `m' is the newname MailList instance
   m.real_name
 'OldName'
   m.real_name = 'NewName'
   m.Save()
  
 Unlocking (but not saving) list: newname
 Finalizing
 $
 
 You type the withlist command, and within withlist, you type the 
 responses to the  prompts. On the  last line, your entry is 
 control-D (end of file)
 
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 San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

Thanks very much - this did the trick, with one exception - the archives 
are still bearing the old name. Presumably this just needs a rebuild as 
mentioned somewhere in the FAQ which I used yesterday. 

Perhaps your instructions need adding to the FAQ?!

Thanks again for your invaluable help.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming lists - how to change the list real_name afterwards

2008-07-18 Thread Mark Sapiro

Aidan C A Hopkins wrote:


Thanks very much - this did the trick, with one exception - the archives 
are still bearing the old name. Presumably this just needs a rebuild as 
mentioned somewhere in the FAQ which I used yesterday. 



Some of the archive pages like the TOC and the current month's index 
will be regenerated with the new name, but most of the pages are static 
at this point, so yes, a rebuild of the archive is required to fix them.




Perhaps your instructions need adding to the FAQ?!



Except I have no idea why you weren't able to change the name via the 
General Options page. I did it myself in my 2.1.11 installation to be 
sure it worked, and it did.


Is your Mailman a package? What version?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming lists - how to change the list real_name afterwards

2008-07-18 Thread Terri Oda

On 18-Jul-08, at 12:52 PM, Aidan C A Hopkins wrote:
Thanks very much - this did the trick, with one exception - the  
archives
are still bearing the old name. Presumably this just needs a  
rebuild as

mentioned somewhere in the FAQ which I used yesterday.

Perhaps your instructions need adding to the FAQ?!


The wiki can be edited by anyone, so please go ahead and do that Aidan!

 Terri

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming lists - how to change the list real_name afterwards

2008-07-17 Thread Mark Sapiro

Aidan C A Hopkins wrote:
I have renamed two GNU Mailman lists using the four mv commands in the 
middle of the following FAQ:


  http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030617

When I go back into the new admin screen, the list name in the first box 
still shows oldlist and needs changing to newlist.


I get this error if I try to do so on that screen:

  Error: real_name attribute not changed! It must differ from the list's 
name by case only.



It works for me. Are you entering a name that differs from newlist in 
case only?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Renaming lists - how to change the list real_name afterwards

2008-07-17 Thread Aidan C A Hopkins at Wemail
On 17 Jul 2008 at 10:23, Mark Sapiro wrote:

 Aidan C A Hopkins wrote:
  I have renamed two GNU Mailman lists using the four mv commands in the 
  middle of the following FAQ:
  
http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030617
  
  When I go back into the new admin screen, the list name in the first box 
  still shows oldlist and needs changing to newlist.
  
  I get this error if I try to do so on that screen:
  
Error: real_name attribute not changed! It must differ from the list's 
  name by case only.
 
 
 It works for me. Are you entering a name that differs from newlist in 
 case only?
 
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 San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

Thanks for reply.

Strange - I still get exactly the same error! The new list name I am 
using is exactly as included in the URI; I have tried all lowercase or 
even with the first letter uppercase - doesn't help.

The admin screen still shows the old name in the title line, twice right 
at the bottom, in the overview page, the name of the archives and so on. 
The URI of all these is showing the new name.

Could it be a permission problem on some file which is effectively hidden 
unless one knows where to look?!

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