Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Bill Cole
On 2021-07-25 at 20:15:31 UTC-0400 (Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:15:31 -0700) Ralph Alvy is rumored to have said: I have no Inbox rules at all. Here are the Sieve relevant lines in the raw message: X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 3.0 X-Spam-known-sender: no X-Spam-sender-reputation: 500 (none) X-Spam-score: 7.2

Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy
I'll let you know if that verbiage is there on the next one I find in the junk folder. Right now that folder is empty. On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Antonio Leding wrote: > Ahhh - ok - at least that part is solved. So not sure if that might trigger a > move - I don’t think it would but it

Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Antonio Leding
Ahhh - ok - at least that part is solved. So not sure if that might trigger a move - I don’t think it would but it might - or there could be a bug. Can you find any Junk messages that do **not** have that same verbiage? - - - On 25 Jul 2021, at 18:54, Ralph Alvy wrote: Thanks, Antonio.

Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy
I may just uncheck that image checking box and see if that stops all this. On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Ralph Alvy wrote: > Thanks, Antonio. Those spam lines are probably put there by the Fastmail > server. > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, at 5:34 PM, Antonio Leding wrote: >> OK - I wasn’t quite

Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy
Thanks, Antonio. Those spam lines are probably put there by the Fastmail server. On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, at 5:34 PM, Antonio Leding wrote: > OK - I wasn’t quite right - image checking does work with spam in that you > can configure the spam score that will inform the image checking process. > >

Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Antonio Leding
OK - I wasn’t quite right - image checking does work with spam in that you can configure the spam score that will inform the image checking process. That said, I checked several of the messages in my Junk boxes and none of them have that same header information. What you posted looks like

Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Verdon Vaillancourt
Are you sure it isn’t server-side filtering? > On Jul 25, 2021, at 7:26 PM, Ralph Alvy wrote: > >  > I have SpamSieve unchecked in the Security window. Why does Mailmate place > email in its Junk folder occasionally? > ___ > mailmate mailing list >

Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Antonio Leding
Ahhh - I believe that regardless of what the SpamSieve setting is, that when image checking is enabled, it will always check for spam. I could be mis-recollecting here but either way, I will do some digging to see if I can find a reference about this… - - - On 25 Jul 2021, at 17:15, Ralph

Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy
I have no Inbox rules at all. Here are the Sieve relevant lines in the raw message: X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 3.0 X-Spam-known-sender: no X-Spam-sender-reputation: 500 (none) X-Spam-score: 7.2 X-Spam-hits: HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS 0.248, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST 0.001, HTML_MESSAGE 0.001,

Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Antonio Leding
Well, with SpamSieve enabled, you can always re-eval the spam score on any message. I’m not sure if this menu option still exists after disabling SpamSieve but I believe it does. That aside, you can always check for rules on the Inbox - are there any there? I did a quick mailer archive

Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy
I already moved it out of the Junk folder, so its Sieve score isn't seen and it's marked as No Junk. I'll do as you say the next time it happens before moving it out of the folder. On 25 Jul 2021, at 16:30, Antonio Leding wrote: Are you sure it’s being moved by SpamSieve? For example, any

Re: [MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Antonio Leding
Are you sure it’s being moved by SpamSieve? For example, any rules possibly in effect? Find a message in the Junk folder and right-click to check its spam state - - - On 25 Jul 2021, at 16:25, Ralph Alvy wrote: I have SpamSieve unchecked in the Security window. Why does Mailmate place

[MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

2021-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy
I have SpamSieve unchecked in the Security window. Why does Mailmate place email in its Junk folder occasionally?___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate

Re: [MlMt] Mailmate default folders question

2021-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy
Thanks. I was pretty sure Tuffmail created that. On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, at 3:59 PM, Antonio Leding wrote: > I currently manage 20 email accounts in Mailmate and I have never seen this > folder created. All of the folders I see were either created by *(a)* me; > *(b)* an email service - i.e.

Re: [MlMt] Mailmate default folders question

2021-07-25 Thread Antonio Leding
I currently manage 20 email accounts in Mailmate and I have never seen this folder created. All of the folders I see were either created by **(a)** me; **(b)** an email service - i.e. Gmail; **(c)** another client - i.e. Airmail. - - - On 25 Jul 2021, at 8:17, Ralph Alvy wrote: I have a

Re: [MlMt] Selecting default SMTP server

2021-07-25 Thread Antonio Leding
Understood and agreed…but if one wishes to use an SMTP server that is not cfg’d to the SENDer account, then the hidden prefs feature is required… - - - On 25 Jul 2021, at 12:37, Bill Cole wrote: On 2021-07-25 at 01:31:23 UTC-0400 (Sun, 25 Jul 2021 05:31:23 +) Antonio Leding is rumored

Re: [MlMt] Selecting default SMTP server

2021-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy
My experience was that no matter what account I chose in the drop-down menu, the same SMTP server was chosen. Not the one I wanted. I verified this by sending a message each time and looking at the raw message to see what SMTP server handle it. In all cases it was my Tuffmail SMTP server. Even

Re: [MlMt] Selecting default SMTP server

2021-07-25 Thread Bill Cole
On 2021-07-25 at 01:31:23 UTC-0400 (Sun, 25 Jul 2021 05:31:23 +) Antonio Leding is rumored to have said: Correct - but I presumed he meant the SMTP server - if not, then I’m wondering if he might have been referring to how the SMTP server will be selected based on the From account…

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Re: [MlMt] Switching to Fastmail: some questions

2021-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy
Thanks Philip. I was told by tech support that syncing with Google contacts is in the works for a future release. No ETA. --- Sent from my Android phone On July 22, 2021 8:20:42 PM Philip Paeps wrote: On 2021-07-23 01:13:58 (+0800), Ralph Alvy wrote: Well, Tuffmail is sadly ending operations

[MlMt] Mailmate default folders question

2021-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy
I have a Discard folder that I think was left over from my old Tuffmail account. Does Mailmate create such a folder by default? I assume the default folders for Mailmate are only the following: Inbox Archive Drafts Sent Junk Trash Various folders in Examples

Re: [MlMt] Selecting default SMTP server

2021-07-25 Thread Ralph Alvy
I have deleted my old Tuffmail account from Mailmate so all is working as desired now, without having to select SMTP before Sending. On 24 Jul 2021, at 22:31, Antonio Leding wrote: Correct - but I presumed he meant the SMTP server - if not, then I’m wondering if he might have been referring