Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Time Machine

2020-10-23 Thread Glenn Parker
Sorry if this discussion seems to have gone down a rathole, but I do hope someone finds this useful. It’s possible that the Time Machine performance issues have nothing to do with MailMate. There have been many recent reports of issues with Time Machine after an OS upgrade. Below is a very

Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Time Machine

2020-10-22 Thread Glenn Parker
I came across this low-level approach to debugging Time Machine performance issues: https://medium.com/macoclock/time-machine-backups-too-slow-5ed1e5e347a4 I left for last the most complex, low-level debugging tool you have available allowing you to monitor your filesystem access in

Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Time Machine

2020-10-22 Thread Glenn Parker
On 22 Oct 2020, at 10:07, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: That's not the issue. I've excluded Database.noindex for years—it's very large, and because MailMate doesn't try to synchronize writes to it with changes to messages, it's not likely to be correct after a restore in any event. Let me restate

Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Time Machine

2020-10-22 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
That's not the issue. I've excluded Database.noindex for years—it's very large, and because MailMate doesn't try to synchronize writes to it with changes to messages, it's not likely to be correct after a restore in any event. Let me restate the problem. It is *not* just the number of messages.

Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Time Machine

2020-10-22 Thread Charlie Clark
On 22 Oct 2020, at 4:20, Glenn Parker wrote: I exclude ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Database.noindex from my Time Machine backups. It makes a real difference (measured using *BackupLoupe 2*). Sounds reasonable: the index will change a lot and, as a binary file, can't be diffed so

Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Time Machine

2020-10-21 Thread Glenn Parker
On 21 Oct 2020, at 13:56, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I've had to disable Time Machine backups of the directories containing my IMAP messages—I was getting at most two backups per day because each one took so long. Some of it, I'm sure, is because I have about a million messages, but I don't

Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Time Machine

2020-10-21 Thread Bill Cole
On 21 Oct 2020, at 13:56, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I've had to disable Time Machine backups of the directories containing my IMAP messages—I was getting at most two backups per day because each one took so long. Some of it, I'm sure, is because I have about a million messages, but I don't

Re: [MlMt] MailMate and Time Machine

2020-10-21 Thread Patrik Fältström via mailmate
On 21 Oct 2020, at 19:56, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > The issue, then, would seem to be something about messages > being added to or deleted from some mail folders, possibly > propagating up the directory tree. Is that right? Is there some > organizational pattern I could use that would cut the

[MlMt] MailMate and Time Machine

2020-10-21 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
I've had to disable Time Machine backups of the directories containing my IMAP messages—I was getting at most two backups per day because each one took so long. Some of it, I'm sure, is because I have about a million messages, but I don't think that that's the whole story—my backup laptop, which