[MlMt] MailMate and TextExpander
On 10 Jun 2015, at 10:00, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote: As a data point, this is not happening for me with the newest textexpander. Thanks. I’ve done more testing. It’s still happening to me, and it’s quite puzzling. Here’s what I’ve discovered. Scenario 1: (1) Select some text for quoting. Type “r” for reply. When the new message with quoted text appears, type Return. The problem appears: The cursor skips back a space (back a return, actually, to the end of the quote), “R” appears at the end of the quote. The Edit menu lights up, so something is happening with Edit. Cancel out that message. (2) Try the same thing again, and the second time it does not happen. Scenario 2: (1) Comment out the “r” keybinding. Use Command-r for a reply. All is well, no problem whatsoever. So, for me, the problem does seem to be related to the keybinding of “r” but I can’t understand what it might be. As I say, this problem does not appear with Typinator. HOWEVER... In replying to this thread, I've just discovered another issue which points away from MailMate. I decided to reply from my Fastmail account, using Safari instead of MailMate (don't ask why). The procedure there is to (1) Type c to compose a new message, (2) type in the address. When I do this, a C appears immediately as I begin to type the address (in other words, I get cmailm...@lists.freron.com). And the Edit menu in Safari lights up. So this is EXACTLY the same problem. It clearly has something to do with TextExpander on my system, because it I quit TE, the problem goes away in both MailMate and Safari. So... a little more exploring and I've discovered that if I turn off the option in TE to capitalize sentences, this problem goes away. Problem solved, for me. Thanks to all who replied. -- Sherman Wilcox ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] message in own window: moving and deleting
Is there any chance of functionality being improved for working with messages open in a separate window, as described in the message below, from February? Benny, you indicated on Feb 24 that you would be working on it at some point… Oddly, although the Move to Mailbox… command is greyed out, I can in fact move a message that I have open in a separate window to another mailbox by using the keys I've bound to moveToMailbox: and then a specific mailbox. (Is that new since February? I'm not sure whether I tested that then.) However, once I've done that, the message I've just moved is still open in its window and I can't advance to the next one in the mailbox it was originally in; I have to manually close it, manually select the next one, and manually open that one. I understand that next message and previous message are hard to define when a message has been moved to a new folder but is still open in a separate window: do they mean the message that used to be next or the message that is next in the new mailbox? Since I'm usually working through my inbox when I'm doing this, I want them to refer to the original mailbox (the inbox); given the logical incoherence this could cause, I'd be very happy with the next message in the original mailbox auto-opening in the place of the message I've just moved. Also, with a message open in a separate window, the Next Unread Message and Previous Unread Message commands are also greyed out, and neither the keys I've bound to nextUnreadMessage: and previousUnreadMessage:, nor the standard built-ins of option-command-downarrow and option-command-uparrow work. (Even though Next Message and Previous Message do work, as do both the standard option-downarrow and option-uparrow and the keys I've bound to those commands.) Instead, option-command-downarrow and option-command-uparrow scroll the message to its end or beginning, respectively, and the keys I've bound to the commands do nothing. Still hopeful, Shoshanna Green On 21 Feb 2015, at 10:08, Shoshanna Green wrote: When I have a message open in its own window (Widescreen layout with the message list pulled all the way to the right), the Move to Mailbox… command is unavailable (greyed out). This is both odd, since Move to Archive, Move to Junk, and Delete are all still available, and awkward. But I need to have most messages saved in specific folders, not just generically archived, so that I can find them when I'm not using MailMate. Can Move to Mailbox… be made available? (And, huh, Go to Mailbox is also unavailable, though that's less critical in this context.) In my preferred workflow, I'd open a message in a separate window, read it, move it to the appropriate mailbox (or archive or delete it), and the next message in the folder would open (in its separate window) as the moved (or archived or deleted) one disappeared. Next best would be if the moved one remained visible in its existing window, so that I can just hit whatever key I've bound to next message and have it appear. The latter is what happens if I archive a message that's displayed in a separate window. However, deleting it makes the message window disappear, and locating the next message in the message list so I can open and read it takes an awkward moment, so this is the worst option of the three UI behaviors. Moving, archiving, and deleting all seem like variations of the same action to me — move this message that I'm looking at somewhere else — so it's weird to me that the UI reacts differently for each: moving a message is disallowed, archiving leaves it visible in its existing window, deleting closes the window. Shoshanna Green shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] inconsistent reply button setting
I seem to remember a program providing two keys (command-R and command-option-R or command-shift-R) and also a preference setting, so that the preferred key could use the preferred option, whichever it is, leaving the alternate key to use the alternate option. In other words, command-R would reply to sender or reply all, whichever your workflow is, and the other shortcut would do the opposite. Seems like a good solution to me. Kai Großjohann wrote (at 14:27 on 10 Jun 2015): On 9 Jun 2015, at 22:49, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 9 Jun 2015, at 16:58, Joe Abley wrote: My preference is that reply (through any key combination, menu option, icon, etc) always means reply all, never ask, I'll modify the to/cc headers manually if I want to. It would be nice to be able to turn on that functionality. exactly my usecase too. Interesting. I'd like to keys, one for reply all and one for reply sender, and neither should ask questions. Kai ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] inconsistent reply button setting
On 9 Jun 2015, at 22:49, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 9 Jun 2015, at 16:58, Joe Abley wrote: My preference is that reply (through any key combination, menu option, icon, etc) always means reply all, never ask, I'll modify the to/cc headers manually if I want to. It would be nice to be able to turn on that functionality. exactly my usecase too. Interesting. I'd like to keys, one for reply all and one for reply sender, and neither should ask questions. Kai ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate and TextExpander
I don't know if this is related, probably not, but fwiw. I had a problem with textexpander where sometimes a macro would fail to insert what it was supposed to, and instead would insert the contents of the clipboard. It turned out that they are doing some odd clipboard substitution and there can be a race condition if the machine is loaded. Tweaking a setting (sorry, can't remember which one and I'm 11 time zones away from my laptop) to be a bit longer fixed the problem. --iPhoned On Jun 10, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Sherman Wilcox shermanwil...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 10 Jun 2015, at 10:00, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote: As a data point, this is not happening for me with the newest textexpander. Thanks. I’ve done more testing. It’s still happening to me, and it’s quite puzzling. Here’s what I’ve discovered. Scenario 1: (1) Select some text for quoting. Type “r” for reply. When the new message with quoted text appears, type Return. The problem appears: The cursor skips back a space (back a return, actually, to the end of the quote), “R” appears at the end of the quote. The Edit menu lights up, so something is happening with Edit. Cancel out that message. (2) Try the same thing again, and the second time it does not happen. Scenario 2: (1) Comment out the “r” keybinding. Use Command-r for a reply. All is well, no problem whatsoever. So, for me, the problem does seem to be related to the keybinding of “r” but I can’t understand what it might be. As I say, this problem does not appear with Typinator. HOWEVER... In replying to this thread, I've just discovered another issue which points away from MailMate. I decided to reply from my Fastmail account, using Safari instead of MailMate (don't ask why). The procedure there is to (1) Type c to compose a new message, (2) type in the address. When I do this, a C appears immediately as I begin to type the address (in other words, I get cmailm...@lists.freron.com). And the Edit menu in Safari lights up. So this is EXACTLY the same problem. It clearly has something to do with TextExpander on my system, because it I quit TE, the problem goes away in both MailMate and Safari. So... a little more exploring and I've discovered that if I turn off the option in TE to capitalize sentences, this problem goes away. Problem solved, for me. Thanks to all who replied. -- Sherman Wilcox ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Folder preferences reset with recent Dev/Beta (at least 5095)
Hi, Not sure if that was intended behaviour; seems unlikely... No, it was certainly not intended. I've forgotten if something was broken in one of the test versions, but I did make a few changes to the handling of mailbox settings. Let me know if you can reproduce that MailMate loses mailbox settings. Yep, it's happening all the time now. I'm on the latest 5099 dev version, and several time this morning I've had to re-order columns in my Inbox after performing searches or other acts which apparently changed the columns and orders. After cancelling the search, it seemed to change the order of columns and keep them changed. Cheers, Scott ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate and TextExpander
I’ve had that problem often, particularly in OneNote and occasionally in MailMate. If you can find the setting change you did at some point, I’d appreciate hearing about it. Bart On 10 Jun 2015, at 21:19, Kee Hinckley wrote: I don't know if this is related, probably not, but fwiw. I had a problem with textexpander where sometimes a macro would fail to insert what it was supposed to, and instead would insert the contents of the clipboard. It turned out that they are doing some odd clipboard substitution and there can be a race condition if the machine is loaded. Tweaking a setting (sorry, can't remember which one and I'm 11 time zones away from my laptop) to be a bit longer fixed the problem. --iPhoned On Jun 10, 2015, at 10:58 PM, Sherman Wilcox shermanwil...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 10 Jun 2015, at 10:00, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote: As a data point, this is not happening for me with the newest textexpander. Thanks. I’ve done more testing. It’s still happening to me, and it’s quite puzzling. Here’s what I’ve discovered. Scenario 1: (1) Select some text for quoting. Type “r” for reply. When the new message with quoted text appears, type Return. The problem appears: The cursor skips back a space (back a return, actually, to the end of the quote), “R” appears at the end of the quote. The Edit menu lights up, so something is happening with Edit. Cancel out that message. (2) Try the same thing again, and the second time it does not happen. Scenario 2: (1) Comment out the “r” keybinding. Use Command-r for a reply. All is well, no problem whatsoever. So, for me, the problem does seem to be related to the keybinding of “r” but I can’t understand what it might be. As I say, this problem does not appear with Typinator. HOWEVER... In replying to this thread, I've just discovered another issue which points away from MailMate. I decided to reply from my Fastmail account, using Safari instead of MailMate (don't ask why). The procedure there is to (1) Type c to compose a new message, (2) type in the address. When I do this, a C appears immediately as I begin to type the address (in other words, I get cmailm...@lists.freron.com). And the Edit menu in Safari lights up. So this is EXACTLY the same problem. It clearly has something to do with TextExpander on my system, because it I quit TE, the problem goes away in both MailMate and Safari. So... a little more exploring and I've discovered that if I turn off the option in TE to capitalize sentences, this problem goes away. Problem solved, for me. Thanks to all who replied. -- Sherman Wilcox ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
