Re: [MlMt] getting told I have 2 unsent messages but nothing in outbound

[Max Rydahl Andersen]

I haven’t deleted them. 

There is 3 but I get warned about 2. 

The youngest one was done if I recall right while I was traveling (flights, 
opening/closing laptop, etc.). Only special thing I can think of there. 

Let me know what you would like to get from them ?

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> On 25 Apr 2018, at 11:29, Benny Kjær Nielsen  wrote:
> 
> On 24 Apr 2018, at 23:38, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> 
> I have three emails with a date in pending submission.
> 
> So you found them.
> 
> 1 from two weeks ago which was just a random test mail I wrote (approximately 
> when I started having the issue)
> 
> I assume you have no idea if something out-of-the-ordinary happened with this 
> test email?
> 
> and 2 others from back in 2017 which is a long time ago :)
> 
> Where were these 3 emails located?
> 
> This also tells us that it's likely to be an old bug.
> 
> None of them shows up in outbox.
> 
> That mailbox shows email with the virtual #relay header. I guess this means 
> that these emails do not have this header while they do have a #relay-date 
> header. I could catch this case before showing the send-now window on exit, 
> but it would be much better if we could figure out the order of events 
> triggering the emails to get into this state.
> 
> I assume you have deleted these emails. Let me know if it happens again.
> 
> (There's a small chance that I recently fixed a bug which I think could 
> trigger this behavior, but I'm not 100% sure about that.)
> 
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Re: [MlMt] Outlook style reply styling

[Bill Cole]

On 25 Apr 2018, at 10:24, Arnau Rebassa wrote:


Hi all,

I have discovered a “strange” behaviour in Mailmate replaying 
outlook
mails. Where I work we use office.com, so when I reply an email from 
one of
my colleagues, the vertical line for quoted text is not displayed 
unless I
jump to very bottom of the email and I modify my signature. Something 
so

stupid to add an space and then remove it.

I don’t know if Benny has any explanation for this behaviour.



I'm not Benny, but I think I know the reason...

If you use the "Embed" functionality of the MailMate composer and reply 
to a HTML message, MailMate starts the reply message with a pristine 
full copy of the original message's HTML. If you do any editing that 
requires modification of that object or simply a fresh rendering of the 
HTML that MailMate generates itself, the embedded message can get 
redrawn differently than it was when initially starting the composition. 
I'm unsure *WHY* that redrawing results in the appearance changing, nut 
I have watched it happen.

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Re: [MlMt] Rule copying?

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 25 Apr 2018, at 17:00, Jody Foo wrote:

* New: Rules can be hierarchical (use drag’n’drop to make 
subrules or use the new actions menu).


Does the structure affect whether the rule is triggered? I.e. will a 
subrule only trigger if its parent is triggered?


Yes.

Or is the hierarchy only for organizational purposes? For my use, I 
would like to use the rule hierarchy for organizational use and not 
have the rule hierarchy affect rule triggering.


In that case, you can just use a rule with no conditions. It also needs 
no actions in which case it's just used for grouping. (If it works as 
intended. I'm not sure I've tested completely empty rules in this case.)


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Re: [MlMt] Rule copying?

[Jody Foo]

Hi!

In reply to Benny Kjær Nielsen (2018-04-18, 17:03):

But I have now. The rules editor was very primitive and this was never 
intentional. The latest test release adds the following:


* New: Rules can be reordered. Hold down ⌥ to copy.
* New: Rules can be dragged to other rule lists. Hold down ⌥ to 
copy.


This is great! Have been wanting to do this for a long time :)

* New: Rules can be hierarchical (use drag’n’drop to make subrules 
or use the new actions menu).


Does the structure affect whether the rule is triggered? I.e. will a 
subrule only trigger if its parent is triggered? Or is the hierarchy 
only for organizational purposes? For my use, I would like to use the 
rule hierarchy for organizational use and not have the rule hierarchy 
affect rule triggering.


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Re: [MlMt] Outlook style reply styling

[Arnau Rebassa]

Hi all,

I have discovered a “strange” behaviour in Mailmate replaying outlook
mails. Where I work we use office.com, so when I reply an email from one of
my colleagues, the vertical line for quoted text is not displayed unless I
jump to very bottom of the email and I modify my signature. Something so
stupid to add an space and then remove it.

I don’t know if Benny has any explanation for this behaviour.

Cheers!

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Allan Reiffman 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> How can I have the vertical "reply" line be removed from the reply to a
> message?
>
> How can I add a horizontal line to the bottom of my reply?
>
> For better or worse the company where I work uses Outlook, and in a given
> email conversation thread the replies are simply stacked one on top of the
> other with no reply indicator or indentation, with each message being
> separated by a faint horizontal line.  I would like my replies from
> Mailmate to be consistent with this format.
>
> I assume that to do this I would need to customize the reply styling - is
> there a guideline or any documentation on how to do this (in general), and
> / or specifically what I would need to modify to achieve the above?
>
> Thanks,
> -Allan
>
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Re: [MlMt] Outlook style reply styling

[Verdon Vaillancourt]

Ultimately, the problem is the non-standard behaviour of Outlook. I hate 
getting mail from something like that, finding it nearly impossible to 
read and track long conversations.


…anyways… I don’t know about a global solution, but you could 
select the indented reply text and use the key-command “cmd-opt-‘“

(command-option-hyphen) to remove the quoting.

v

On 25 Apr 2018, at 3:48, Allan Reiffman wrote:


Hi all,

How can I have the vertical "reply" line be removed from the reply to 
a

message?

How can I add a horizontal line to the bottom of my reply?

For better or worse the company where I work uses Outlook, and in a 
given
email conversation thread the replies are simply stacked one on top of 
the

other with no reply indicator or indentation, with each message being
separated by a faint horizontal line.  I would like my replies from
Mailmate to be consistent with this format.

I assume that to do this I would need to customize the reply styling - 
is
there a guideline or any documentation on how to do this (in general), 
and

/ or specifically what I would need to modify to achieve the above?

Thanks,
-Allan

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Re: [MlMt] getting told I have 2 unsent messages but nothing in outbound

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 24 Apr 2018, at 23:38, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


I have three emails with a date in pending submission.


So you found them.

1 from two weeks ago which was just a random test mail I wrote 
(approximately when I started having the issue)


I assume you have no idea if something out-of-the-ordinary happened with 
this test email?



and 2 others from back in 2017 which is a long time ago :)


Where were these 3 emails located?

This also tells us that it's likely to be an old bug.


None of them shows up in outbox.


That mailbox shows email with the virtual `#relay` header. I guess this 
means that these emails do not have this header while they do have a 
`#relay-date` header. I could catch this case before showing the 
send-now window on exit, but it would be much better if we could figure 
out the order of events triggering the emails to get into this state.


I assume you have deleted these emails. Let me know if it happens again.

(There's a small chance that I recently fixed a bug which I *think* 
could trigger this behavior, but I'm not 100% sure about that.)


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Re: [MlMt] Confused Inbox Mailbox?

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 24 Apr 2018, at 16:00, pleasespa...@posteo.net wrote:

One of my three inboxes in the Mailbox area has a To column instead of 
a From column. I can add a From column, but I can’t remove the To 
column. This same inbox displays a From column instead of a To column 
in the Sources area.


Likely a bug triggered this. And yes, I'll soon be looking into 
rewriting the code handling column states (hopefully making it better).


Any ideas on why I can’t remove the To column from the Inbox in the 
Mailbox area?


You cannot remove a column which is the so-called outline-column (the 
one used for the triangles in threading-mode). You need to first 
re-assign the outline column (using the same menu).


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[MlMt] Outlook style reply styling

[Allan Reiffman]

Hi all,

How can I have the vertical "reply" line be removed from the reply to a
message?

How can I add a horizontal line to the bottom of my reply?

For better or worse the company where I work uses Outlook, and in a given
email conversation thread the replies are simply stacked one on top of the
other with no reply indicator or indentation, with each message being
separated by a faint horizontal line.  I would like my replies from
Mailmate to be consistent with this format.

I assume that to do this I would need to customize the reply styling - is
there a guideline or any documentation on how to do this (in general), and
/ or specifically what I would need to modify to achieve the above?

Thanks,
-Allan
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