Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

2020-09-05 Thread TJ Luoma
On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 10:46 PM Charlie Garrison < charlie-li...@garrison.com.au> wrote: > Unless they have changed, Spark keeps creds on their servers and not just in IMAP client. Reading > between the lines of their docs; their servers access your mailboxes directly (not just via iOS > app),

Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

2020-09-05 Thread Charlie Garrison
On 6 Sep 2020, at 3:20, Antonio Leding wrote: If you have a different interpretation or know where I missed it, please share… :=) Yes, I have a different interpretation, based on my experience using Spark a few years ago. Their docs don't clarify whether anything has changed; I suspect it

Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

2020-09-05 Thread Antonio Leding
Personally, doesn’t bother me but it’s not my list - I defer to the owner Benny but presuming he is a stickler for these things, anyone who wishes to continue this elsewhere, feel free to PM me at t...@leding.net.. On 5 Sep 2020, at 10:43, Sam Hathaway wrote: Folks — This thread is now OT

Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

2020-09-05 Thread Sam Hathaway
Folks — This thread is now OT even from its original OT topic, and we’ve already discussed the privacy situation with server-assisted email clients to death within living memory. Maybe now would be a good time to take this off list? -sam On 5 Sep 2020, at 13:20, Antonio Leding wrote:

Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

2020-09-05 Thread Antonio Leding
Apologies if I missed this — and I’m not advocating using Spark (far from it) — but nowhere in any of Readdle’s (maker of Spark) policies nor their blog about privacy did I see where they actually store credentials on their servers. They do say “Spark needs access to usernames & passwords”

Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

2020-09-05 Thread Charlie Garrison
On 6 Sep 2020, at 0:13, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: If I understand this correctly, Spark's architecture requires them to have access to your email passwords. To me, that's a complete non-starter; your email password is the most important one you have, since it can be used to reset all of your

Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

2020-09-05 Thread Charlie Garrison
On 5 Sep 2020, at 22:38, Bryce Wray wrote: Just so you know, the folks behind Edison Mail (which, admittedly, is a nice-to-use app) have had their shares of privacy issues, too: I didn't know, and I'll have to read more about it. I did confirm they were not saving creds, but I didn't check

Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

2020-09-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On 5 Sep 2020, at 8:38, Bryce Wray wrote: On 5 Sep 2020, at 5:28, Charlie Garrison wrote: Fair warning to all who are looking at new mail programs - read __very carefully__ the privacy policy for Spark. Unless they have changed, using their program means giving __their servers__ access to

Re: [MlMt] Attachments column keeps disappearing

2020-09-05 Thread Randall Gellens
On 4 Sep 2020, at 19:38, Bill Cole wrote: On 4 Sep 2020, at 22:01, Randall Gellens wrote: I've noticed that the 'Attachments' column vanishes when I switch to a different mailbox and then back. Mailmate 1.13.2 (5673). Is this a bug or a setting I've gotten wrong? I use

Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

2020-09-05 Thread Bryce Wray
On 5 Sep 2020, at 5:28, Charlie Garrison wrote: Fair warning to all who are looking at new mail programs - read __very carefully__ the privacy policy for Spark. Unless they have changed, using their program means giving __their servers__ access to all your email. If you don't mind handing

Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

2020-09-05 Thread Charlie Garrison
On 5 Sep 2020, at 0:36, Robert Goldman wrote: That sounds right from what I see here: https://sparkmailapp.com/blog/privacy-explained Yep, that's the one. They have certainly put some marketing spin in there: Spark needs to check and send emails from your email account. Otherwise, you

Re: [MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

2020-09-05 Thread Charlie Garrison
On 5 Sep 2020, at 0:22, Robert Goldman wrote: On 4 Sep 2020, at 6:28, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: In the end I've settled with Spark which has decent smart folders and does not choke on the big inbox. The critical question for me with an iOS client for compatibility is whether or not it

Re: [MlMt] can no llonger paste into compose window

2020-09-05 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 4 Sep 2020, at 22:12, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: > Not sure if always that source but I normally copy stuff from Opera browser. When it happens again then try, e.g., copying text in a Terminal window. >> You do not have a custom layout for the Composer, right? > > not sure...i think its