Re: [MlMt] Moving ISP/IMAP host

2022-09-02 Thread Bill Cole

On 2022-09-02 at 21:23:37 UTC-0400 (Sat, 03 Sep 2022 11:23:37 +1000)
Gavan Schneider via mailmate 
is rumored to have said:
[...]

Plan:
Put all my “eggs” in what appears to be the much better basket

Proposed process, and your thoughts and wisdom welcome here —
1. Take IMAP accounts “off-line”in MlMt
2. Switch DNS of the relevant domain name to the good provider
4. Create the email accounts on this provider
5. Change the IMAP account settings in MlMt
6. Wait for the DNS change to propagate
7. Bring accounts “on-line” in MlMt… and
8. Allow the synchronisation process to happen, with lots of messages 
getting loaded on the ISP server (I hope)


That will not be what happens. Instead, MM will toss all the local 
messages. You will have pristine email accounts, unsullied by email.


9. Clean-up in account maintenance mode on bad provider once I get 
access again (find any missing messages, etc.)


I have the bandwidth to cover this and speed is good so it should all 
happen in reasonable time provided I am correct in my process.


So, have I made any silly assumptions or omissions in the above?


Not silly, as it is understandable and not entirely unreasonable: that 
MM's local copy of your mail is anything more than a 100% cache of the 
server view of the message store. Whenever the server disagrees with MM 
about what messages exist and what their states are, the server wins 
unconditionally.


The tool you want is imapsync: https://imapsync.lamiral.info

There's a MacPorts port that's relatively recent, and I suspect that 
Homebrew has a recipe for it. If you have command line access and can 
install your own tools, it runs on anything Unix-like and you may find 
it faster to run server-to-server rather than via your Mac.


Another MacOS tool that I like a lot for client-side message store 
wrangling is (not free) Emailchemy: https://weirdkid.com/emailchemy/.


Alternatively, you COULD use MM to export your entire message store in a 
form that it can re-import. Then you would switch the settings, let MM 
wipe out its cache, and import the messages.



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[MlMt] Moving ISP/IMAP host

2022-09-02 Thread Gavan Schneider via mailmate
Greetings, community wisdom needed

Context:
Two domain names hosted by separate providers
I have full control over the DNS routing for these domains (ie., the domain 
names were not purchased through the ISP providers)
One of the providers has twice blocking my IP address, and once disconnected me 
when they failed to do their upgrade properly. The other has caused no problems 
over the same period.
The problematic ISP has taken days to resolve the issue on each occasion… with 
loss of email access, etc.
I have all the email on local store

Plan:
Put all my “eggs” in what appears to be the much better basket

Proposed process, and your thoughts and wisdom welcome here —
1. Take IMAP accounts “off-line”in MlMt
2. Switch DNS of the relevant domain name to the good provider
4. Create the email accounts on this provider
5. Change the IMAP account settings in MlMt
6. Wait for the DNS change to propagate
7. Bring accounts “on-line” in MlMt… and
8. Allow the synchronisation process to happen, with lots of messages getting 
loaded on the ISP server (I hope)
9. Clean-up in account maintenance mode on bad provider once I get access again 
(find any missing messages, etc.)

I have the bandwidth to cover this and speed is good so it should all happen in 
reasonable time provided I am correct in my process.

So, have I made any silly assumptions or omissions in the above?

Thanks in advance

Gavan Schneider
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Gavan Schneider, Sodwalls, NSW, Australia
Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a 
well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.
— H. L. Mencken, 1920



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Re: [MlMt] MacOS 13 Ventura

2022-09-02 Thread Edward Thome
On 2 Sep 2022, at 11:02, Joseph P. Hillenburg wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Has Mailmate been tested on Ventura? Will a new build be necessary?
>

It is working fine for me on Ventura.
Sometimes, it can be a bit slow in bringing up a new composer window to reply 
to an email, but now that I write this it is very snappy about the same so 
maybe that was just special to whatever circumstances are going on at the time.

Ed
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[MlMt] MacOS 13 Ventura

2022-09-02 Thread Joseph P. Hillenburg
Hi,

Has Mailmate been tested on Ventura? Will a new build be necessary?

-JPH
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Re: [MlMt] Sign by default based on history not working

2022-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Sep 2022, at 9:25, Stephan Kleiber via mailmate wrote:

> This does not work for me. I have the option activated, yet I always have to 
> enable signing manually in the Composer window. Is there something I might be 
> doing wrong or can anyone reproduce the issue? I’m on build 5914 (but the 
> error is not new).

I don't have reports on this (I think), but I'll try to reproduce it by sending 
you a couple of messages off list. My own usage of signing/encryption is mostly 
explicit or related to debugging issues.

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[MlMt] Sign by default based on history not working

2022-09-02 Thread Stephan Kleiber via mailmate
Hi everyone,

in MailMate’s Preferences, there’s Security > Composer: OpenPGP > Sign by 
default > Based on history. As I understand it, the setting should work in a 
way that when I sign a message for a contact, MailMate should automatically 
enable signing the next time I compose a message to that same contact.

This does not work for me. I have the option activated, yet I always have to 
enable signing manually in the Composer window. Is there something I might be 
doing wrong or can anyone reproduce the issue? I’m on build 5914 (but the error 
is not new).

Thank you
Stephan
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Re: [MlMt] Spurious newlines in copied text

2022-09-02 Thread Scott

> When I select and copy a block of text that contains line breaks from a mail,
> and then paste it somewhere else the line breaks double and become empty 
> lines.
> Is this a bug or am I doing it wrong?

This one hits me regularly, and there's a workaround:  Use right-click Copy 
(from pop-up menu), rather than command-c.

For $reasons that I'm sure Benny groks better than I do, this works.

Not ideal for a smooth workflow, but, it has worked 100% of the time for me 
when I want to ensure that I'm not receiving spurious newlines.

Regards,

Scott

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Re: [MlMt] Spurious newlines in copied text

2022-09-02 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 2 Sep 2022, at 9:07, Thomas Kahle wrote:

> For your convenience I entered some line breaks in the three lines above.  So 
> when you read this mail, try to copy the three lines above somewhere.  For me 
> the result is this:

I'm aware of this regression. Note that (at least for me), this only happens if 
MailMate displays a plain text message (MailMate generates the HTML only for 
viewing). For example, the HTML included in your email (HTML generated for 
sending) does not have this issue.

This has been an issue before and it's caused by my ongoing changes to how 
copy/paste works with HTML views. I messed up again with my most recent changes 
(while fixing other issues). Hopefully, I'll eventually get it right :)

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[MlMt] Spurious newlines in copied text

2022-09-02 Thread Thomas Kahle
Hi,

When I select and copy a block of text that contains line breaks from a mail,
and then paste it somewhere else the line breaks double and become empty lines.
Is this a bug or am I doing it wrong?

For your convenience I entered some line breaks in the three lines above.  So 
when you read this mail, try to copy the three lines above somewhere.  For me 
the result is this:

```
When I select and copy a block of text that contains line breaks from a mail,

and then paste it somewhere else the line breaks double and become empty lines.

Is this a bug or am I doing it wrong?
```

This does not happen in the editor window or somewhere else, just when I copy 
from mails that MailMate displays.  I’m on version 5914.

Cheers,
Thomas



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