Re: [MlMt] Keyboard shortcut to upgrade to pre-release not working
Ouch! I don't normally upgrade using the test build archive and thought it was something to do with the re-install of macOS because I've never seen this before. Anyhow, thanks for everyones response and feedback. -C On 21 Mar 2023, at 10:04, Bill Cole wrote: On 2023-03-20 at 19:30:21 UTC-0400 (Mon, 20 Mar 2023 16:30:21 -0700) Chris Jones is rumored to have said: Hey Henry, Thanks for your response and feedback. If I go to the menubar and click on MailMate and then hold down the ⌥ key, it changes from "Check for Update" to "Check for Test Build", so I know the ⌥ key is working as it should. But when I click on "Check for Test Build" after pressing the ⌥ key, I'm presented with the prompt: "**You are Using a Prerelease**". At the moment I've manually upgraded to version 5958 and yet I'm still seeing this which is strange as this never used to happen. It's what you get for upgrading to a test release manually. 5958 is later than the latest official "Test Build" seen by the update machinery. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] disabling gifs in received mail
On 21 Mar 2023, at 14:30, davecc wrote: > You can’t disable a single GIF. You can only disable loading of all > images—including GIFs. > > You don’t say what mail application you are using I'm sure it will surprise no one here that I'm using MailMate :) Image blocking is enabled for All Messages in the Security preference pane. On 21 Mar 2023, at 14:55, Glenn Parker wrote: > If you don’t mind modifying the original message slightly, you can have > MailMate remove the annoying GIF attachment directly. I'd be fine with that, but it's not an attachment, or at least MailMate doesn't see it as one. When I start a reply to the offending message, so that all HTML etc is stripped and I can see what's going on, the GIF shows up as [cid:image001.gif@01D95BD6.19A3BB70] between the lines of text that precede and follow it in the message. Shoshanna Green (she/her) shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] disabling gifs in received mail
On 21 Mar 2023, at 11:08, Shoshanna Green wrote: I've just received a message from a company that includes, in its signature, an embedded gif (as a cid). Please, please tell me there's a way to stop it from playing endlessly when I have the message open? Things moving on my screen when I didn't explicitly authorize them to drive me bananas. Shoshanna Green (she/her) shoshan...@gmail.com If you don’t mind modifying the original message slightly, you can have MailMate remove the annoying GIF attachment directly. I realize this is not a great overall solution, but for one-shots it will do the trick. Glenn P. Parker glenn.par...@comcast.net ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] disabling gifs in received mail
You can’t disable a single GIF. You can only disable loading of all images—including GIFs. You don’t say what mail application you are using, but if it’s Apple Mail: In the Mail app, under the Mail menu, choose Preferences. On the Viewing tab, uncheck Load remote content in messages. This disables all graphics—images and GIFs in received emails. Dave > I've just received a message from a company that includes, in its signature, > an embedded gif (as a cid). Please, please tell me there's a way to stop it > from playing endlessly when I have the message open? Things moving on my > screen when I didn't explicitly authorize them to drive me bananas. > > Shoshanna Green (she/her) > shoshan...@gmail.com > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Keyboard shortcut to upgrade to pre-release not working
On 2023-03-20 at 19:30:21 UTC-0400 (Mon, 20 Mar 2023 16:30:21 -0700) Chris Jones is rumored to have said: Hey Henry, Thanks for your response and feedback. If I go to the menubar and click on MailMate and then hold down the ⌥ key, it changes from "Check for Update" to "Check for Test Build", so I know the ⌥ key is working as it should. But when I click on "Check for Test Build" after pressing the ⌥ key, I'm presented with the prompt: "**You are Using a Prerelease**". At the moment I've manually upgraded to version 5958 and yet I'm still seeing this which is strange as this never used to happen. It's what you get for upgrading to a test release manually. 5958 is later than the latest official "Test Build" seen by the update machinery. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] disabling gifs in received mail
I've just received a message from a company that includes, in its signature, an embedded gif (as a cid). Please, please tell me there's a way to stop it from playing endlessly when I have the message open? Things moving on my screen when I didn't explicitly authorize them to drive me bananas. Shoshanna Green (she/her) shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Keyboard shortcut to upgrade to pre-release not working
I eat my words then, maybe thats what's happening. I'll try downgrading to 5950 then to see if I see this behaviour. -C On 21 Mar 2023, at 5:03, Jolin Warren wrote: Late to the party, but I’m pretty sure this is the reason. I’m on r5950 and checking for a new Test Build tells me I’m on the latest one. Benny said in an earlier email that he hasn’t put anything newer into the test build release stream because of several crashing bugs (maybe now resolved?). Chris, since you’re ahead of the ‘latest’ Test Build, I’m not surprised it’s offering to downgrade you. This will probably be the case until something newer is released into the Test Build release stream. On 21 Mar 2023, at 1:07, Eric Sharakan wrote: Hi, a bit of a shot in the dark: could it be that because these are not "released" test builds from Benny, that the update check logic might not be working? Or perhaps it is working, but just wanting to downgrade you to r5950 (which is the latest "released" test build)? -Eric On 20 Mar 2023, at 20:47, Chris Jones wrote: I just tried creating another account on my Mac, this is a clean install I did a few days ago and the same thing occurred under this user account. It's a brand new user profile that doesn't have any legacy profile data laying around and Mailmate starts as if it's a new user. Not sure what to say at this point. Especially since I've updated Mailmate once since doing the fresh install. When I updated it I downloaded the latest test release from the updates archive page and replaced MailMate. So realistically it's a fresh copy of the application. 路 -C On 20 Mar 2023, at 17:20, Henry Seiden wrote: Chris, Do you have a way to try it either in a different user on the same machine or on a different machine to verify whether it’s the Mac hardware or the user settings causing this alone? I’m thinking it’s not MM. Hane not seen this reported by others and I have not had this ever. Although I do remember a different key combo bringing up the warning, just not which one (obviously not the one you are using apparently). Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Mar 2023, at 19:30, Chris Jones wrote: Hey Henry, Thanks for your response and feedback. If I go to the menubar and click on MailMate and then hold down the ⌥ key, it changes from "Check for Update" to "Check for Test Build", so I know the ⌥ key is working as it should. But when I click on "Check for Test Build" after pressing the ⌥ key, I'm presented with the prompt: "**You are Using a Prerelease**". At the moment I've manually upgraded to version 5958 and yet I'm still seeing this which is strange as this never used to happen. -Chris On 20 Mar 2023, at 14:11, Henry Seiden wrote: Chris, Should be as you said, ⌥ + Menu> ‘Check Now’ dropdown. It works here in both release and beta for me in OS 13.2.1 and 13.3 on MM 1.14 5950 and later. Is your keyboard somehow buggered up gloving you the codes (maybe ⌘ instead?). You can bring up a layout screen to confirm. Open Keyboard Settings to check. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Mar 2023, at 15:46, Chris Jones wrote: I'm not sure if this has to do with restoring my Mac from a backup, but I'm not longer able to use the keyboard shortcut ⌥ + "Check Now" under the Software Update section of___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Keyboard shortcut to upgrade to pre-release not working
Hey Eric, I believe all the test builds will show up when you ⌥ + click "Check for Test Build". At least that's the behaviour I've always seen before and I've never run into this issue until re-installing my system. -Chris On 20 Mar 2023, at 18:07, Eric Sharakan wrote: Hi, a bit of a shot in the dark: could it be that because these are not "released" test builds from Benny, that the update check logic might not be working? Or perhaps it is working, but just wanting to downgrade you to r5950 (which is the latest "released" test build)? -Eric On 20 Mar 2023, at 20:47, Chris Jones wrote: I just tried creating another account on my Mac, this is a clean install I did a few days ago and the same thing occurred under this user account. It's a brand new user profile that doesn't have any legacy profile data laying around and Mailmate starts as if it's a new user. Not sure what to say at this point. Especially since I've updated Mailmate once since doing the fresh install. When I updated it I downloaded the latest test release from the updates archive page and replaced MailMate. So realistically it's a fresh copy of the application. 路 -C On 20 Mar 2023, at 17:20, Henry Seiden wrote: Chris, Do you have a way to try it either in a different user on the same machine or on a different machine to verify whether it’s the Mac hardware or the user settings causing this alone? I’m thinking it’s not MM. Hane not seen this reported by others and I have not had this ever. Although I do remember a different key combo bringing up the warning, just not which one (obviously not the one you are using apparently). Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Mar 2023, at 19:30, Chris Jones wrote: Hey Henry, Thanks for your response and feedback. If I go to the menubar and click on MailMate and then hold down the ⌥ key, it changes from "Check for Update" to "Check for Test Build", so I know the ⌥ key is working as it should. But when I click on "Check for Test Build" after pressing the ⌥ key, I'm presented with the prompt: "**You are Using a Prerelease**". At the moment I've manually upgraded to version 5958 and yet I'm still seeing this which is strange as this never used to happen. -Chris On 20 Mar 2023, at 14:11, Henry Seiden wrote: Chris, Should be as you said, ⌥ + Menu> ‘Check Now’ dropdown. It works here in both release and beta for me in OS 13.2.1 and 13.3 on MM 1.14 5950 and later. Is your keyboard somehow buggered up gloving you the codes (maybe ⌘ instead?). You can bring up a layout screen to confirm. Open Keyboard Settings to check. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Mar 2023, at 15:46, Chris Jones wrote: I'm not sure if this has to do with restoring my Mac from a backup, but I'm not longer able to use the keyboard shortcut ⌥ + "Check Now" under the Software Update section of___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Keyboard shortcut to upgrade to pre-release not working
Late to the party, but I’m pretty sure this is the reason. I’m on r5950 and checking for a new Test Build tells me I’m on the latest one. Benny said in an earlier email that he hasn’t put anything newer into the test build release stream because of several crashing bugs (maybe now resolved?). Chris, since you’re ahead of the ‘latest’ Test Build, I’m not surprised it’s offering to downgrade you. This will probably be the case until something newer is released into the Test Build release stream. On 21 Mar 2023, at 1:07, Eric Sharakan wrote: Hi, a bit of a shot in the dark: could it be that because these are not "released" test builds from Benny, that the update check logic might not be working? Or perhaps it is working, but just wanting to downgrade you to r5950 (which is the latest "released" test build)? -Eric On 20 Mar 2023, at 20:47, Chris Jones wrote: I just tried creating another account on my Mac, this is a clean install I did a few days ago and the same thing occurred under this user account. It's a brand new user profile that doesn't have any legacy profile data laying around and Mailmate starts as if it's a new user. Not sure what to say at this point. Especially since I've updated Mailmate once since doing the fresh install. When I updated it I downloaded the latest test release from the updates archive page and replaced MailMate. So realistically it's a fresh copy of the application. 路 -C On 20 Mar 2023, at 17:20, Henry Seiden wrote: Chris, Do you have a way to try it either in a different user on the same machine or on a different machine to verify whether it’s the Mac hardware or the user settings causing this alone? I’m thinking it’s not MM. Hane not seen this reported by others and I have not had this ever. Although I do remember a different key combo bringing up the warning, just not which one (obviously not the one you are using apparently). Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Mar 2023, at 19:30, Chris Jones wrote: Hey Henry, Thanks for your response and feedback. If I go to the menubar and click on MailMate and then hold down the ⌥ key, it changes from "Check for Update" to "Check for Test Build", so I know the ⌥ key is working as it should. But when I click on "Check for Test Build" after pressing the ⌥ key, I'm presented with the prompt: "**You are Using a Prerelease**". At the moment I've manually upgraded to version 5958 and yet I'm still seeing this which is strange as this never used to happen. -Chris On 20 Mar 2023, at 14:11, Henry Seiden wrote: Chris, Should be as you said, ⌥ + Menu> ‘Check Now’ dropdown. It works here in both release and beta for me in OS 13.2.1 and 13.3 on MM 1.14 5950 and later. Is your keyboard somehow buggered up gloving you the codes (maybe ⌘ instead?). You can bring up a layout screen to confirm. Open Keyboard Settings to check. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 20 Mar 2023, at 15:46, Chris Jones wrote: I'm not sure if this has to do with restoring my Mac from a backup, but I'm not longer able to use the keyboard shortcut ⌥ + "Check Now" under the Software Update section of___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate -- => Jolin ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] mail archiving
Thank you for all your suggestions. Indeed Eaglefiler seems to be a worthwhile solution (there is a Mailmate bundle called Eaglefiler, that facilitates export/import, although the new “Copy to mbox” bundle is probably the most convenient (I prefer to export as mbox rather than .eml because I have hundreds of “real” mailboxes)). I will also test Devonthink, although I am not sure it can import a hierarchy of mailboxes. In the meantime, following another suggestion, I re-downloaded Thunderbird (that would have been my favorite mail client if Mailmate did not exist) : Thunderbird has the advantage to allow local storage, and using the Add-On called “ImportExportTools NG”, I could import the mbox files generated by Mailmate, while keeping all the advantages of an email client. This is similar to what Eaglefiler can do (at least regarding emails), and is cheaper. Alain PS : the advantage of Horcrux or Mailsteward (that I have tested) is the possibility to program the automatic import of specific mailboxes at given intervals, but I found the ergonomy of these 2 programs rather diappointing. On 20 Mar 2023, at 22:20, Andrew Luk via mailmate wrote: Another option for you, if you are using DEVONthink, you can add your email to that under Command > Devonthin > add I am sure that there would be some sort of keyboard shortcuts or can be added via Keyboard Maestro, etc On 20 Mar 2023, at 22:47, aisrael wrote: My institution politely asked me to reduce by half the amount of space my emails occupy on their server (currently 36 Go : given my position in this institution, I had to keep ~20 years of emails; I am now semi-retired and should be able to “delete” some of them). Therefore I decided to archive old emails. I found a lot of relevant suggestions in this forum, and decided to test Eaglefiler, Horcrux and Mailsteward, but I was not thrilled by any of them, for different reasons. Then I thought the simplest solution was to export individual mailboxes under the mbox format. This works well (I am using Mailmate 5937). Then I am left with : how to easily read, search, …. these mbox files? Eaglefiler does it (Horcrux and Mailsteward don’t, they work by directly accessing the IMAP server), but is apparently unable to perform incremential backups. Is there a simple way to do that? I had a final question regarding the Archive mailbox in Mailmate : how does it work (I could not find the info in the Mailmate manual, which is unfortunately not searchable; nor did I understand how this mailbox became populated by a seemingly random set of emails), is it a local storage, …? Can the exported mbox files, once deleted on the server, be re-imported in Mailmate and stored locally (while still searchable)? I realize some of these questions only demonstrate my poor knowledge of how email clients actually work, therefore I would appreciate any help. Alain___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!o8kuiBwwYD-Hm356Qi45zuukUV0ifEz32ugMMw0SHv_v_vyZRvzK6q0sTxSJXSU138LUcWdF3-yuPeXlHreQAw$ ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!o8kuiBwwYD-Hm356Qi45zuukUV0ifEz32ugMMw0SHv_v_vyZRvzK6q0sTxSJXSU138LUcWdF3-yuPeXlHreQAw$___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
