a received message written in pdt, gmt-7
the date in the real header is Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:03:26 -0700
mailmate shows the date as July 31, 2015 at 21:03
the laptop time here in tokyo when it was written was Aug 01 at 04:03
aha! the last time mailmate was started was some days back in praha or
i have three major inboxen (not counting procmail filtered boxes) what
is the hack to set the color for each counter in the menu bar?
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i am not so much interested in pop3 as i am in local storage, preferably
mh. sorry, but you seem to be asking for votes.
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>> my issue is not that Sent/Drafts/... exist. i just do not want to be
>> gratuitously subscribed to them in SOURCES. the issue is screen real
>> estate.
>
> To the right of the SOURCES label is a “Hide” button, nicely hidden
> from plain view until you mouse over it. Just in case you weren’t
> The standard mailboxes are part of each source and are required for
> proper operation as far as I know.
>
>> my issue is that i do not want to be gratuitously subscribed to new
>> mailboxes in SOURCES. i maintain the list very carefully, and have
>> a length constraint due to screen real
my email addy has multiple keys in my gpg keychain. how do i tell MM
which to use. i tried putting my own addy in the ~/Library/Application\
Support/MailMate/Security.plist hack, but no love. MM seems not to
believe default-key in .gnupg/gpg.conf
randy
>> my issue is that i do not want to be gratuitously subscribed to new
>> mailboxes in SOURCES. i maintain the list very carefully, and have
>> a length constraint due to screen real estate.
>
> Create subfolders to hold all of the mandatory mailboxes per account and
> keep it unexpanded?
works,
i have too many imap mailboxen already. i am not happy that, if i
compose or reply, i get subscribed to Sent, Drafts, whatever in
Sources. can i stop this from happening?
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>> i have too many imap mailboxen already. i am not happy that, if i
>> compose or reply, i get subscribed to Sent, Drafts, whatever in
>> Sources. can i stop this from happening?
>
> MailMate has to put emails somewhere when creating drafts or after
> sending. You can assign which mailbox
[ bump ]
> when i delete messages (with the delte key) in mailmate, they still
> seem to be in the imap folder; other imap clients still see them. how
> do i make them really deleted?
please tell me there is an answer to this
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>>> when i delete messages (with the delte key) in mailmate, they still
>>> seem to be in the imap folder; other imap clients still see them.
>>> how do i make them really deleted?
>> please tell me there is an answer to this
> Clarification please; Are they staying in the folder (INBOX, Archive,
> Well for me (various e-mail clients and IMAP servers including Google
> and Exchange) deleting the message then "empty deleted messages"
> (contextual menu in MM on said folder) does the job...
sounds perfect. except i do not have such a menu option when right
clicking the folder. i can
> Right clicking on the 'Deleted Messages' folder in the left
> hand pane will present a contextual menu. Select
>Empty "Deleted Messages"
aha! that's it. my use pattern is
o i do not display MAILBOXES, only SOURCES
o i am not subscribed to Deleted Messages, do you subscribe
>>> There is a function moveToJunk
>> which i would love to have on the right click
> I put that on "j" - key :-)
i do not want to actively select the message because if i then junk it,
the following message is now read
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> There is a function moveToJunk
which i would love to have on the right click
> but is there also moveFromJunk:?
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when i delete messages (with the delte key) in mailmate, they still seem
to be in the imap folder; other imap clients still see them. how do i
make them really deleted?
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ok, i decided to test.
o i am in SOURCES
o i subscribed to Deleted Messages on the server
o i delete a message from my inbox with the DEL key
o i look in Deleted Messages; there are eight messages there but not
the one i just deleted
o the right click menu on Delete Messages
On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 02:10:57 +0900, Bill Cole wrote:
> Or just honor the Reply-To and don't generate duplicates.
after seeing decades of embarrassing unintended posts to mailing lists,
and sending a few myself, my MTA strips Reply-to:, and i do not intend
to change that. the discussions on this
>> the imap server for ietf mailing lists has 3.7 jillion imap mailboxes.
>> i want to deselct them all and then only select three. any chance?
> never mind. the checkbox down at the bottom, Ignore Server Subscription
> State, seems to be the trick.
ok, the ietf archive seems to sing mailmate
> the imap server for ietf mailing lists has 3.7 jillion imap mailboxes.
> i want to deselct them all and then only select three. any chance?
never mind. the checkbox down at the bottom, Ignore Server Subscription
State, seems to be the trick.
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yesterday, i lost an email and spent a long time looking in vain. this
morning i found it. mailmate had put it in an Archives folder. i do
not know why, and i do not know why searchlight did not find it there;
th elatter probably my error. i do not use mailmate's archives and
doubt i want to.
mailmate was left running across the change from summertime (in europe).
the hacked display times in the summary frame did not make the leap.
quit and restart fixed.
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it seems that mailmate's address book equivalent is entropic, getting
worse and worse over time, accumulating more and more mis-spellings,
silly aliases, etc. it never improves, only gets worse.
is there really no way to tell mailmate to either flush its address book
cache or to stop using it
it sits in Drafts with 10% green for ten minutes then fails. have
tried 465s 465p 465, all with and without ssl.
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> And in all likelihood, you could just uncheck the 'Port' checkbox and
> check "Require SSL" (which these days really should say "Require TLS"
> because no one anywhere should be using SSL ever for anything.)
that worked. thank you
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i have "Special" in Prefs/General/CustomKeyBindings, which is enabled
% cat ~/Library/Application\
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"@\U000D" = "send:";
i compose a message and hit command-return
the compose window goes full screen
clue bat, please
fwiw, i do not
i have "Special" in Prefs/General/CustomKeyBindings, which is enabled
% cat ~/Library/Application\
Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/Special.plist
"@\U000D" = "send:";
i compose a message and hit command-return
the compose window goes full screen
clue bat, please
fwiw, i do not
my search fu is failing me. how do i set an expire on a mailbox,
particularly Deleted and Sent?
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>> i have "Special" in Prefs/General/CustomKeyBindings, which is enabled
>>
>> % cat ~/Library/Application\
>> Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/Special.plist
>> "@\U000D" = "send:";
>
> Not sure if this helps, but, for the last few years my plist has had:
>
> "@\U000A" =
so, with the new hidden pref(s), anyone have a recipe for hard expunging
sent and trashed messages > say 30 days?
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>> so, with the new hidden pref(s), anyone have a recipe for hard
>> expunging sent and trashed messages> say 30 days?
>
> 2 different Smart Mailbox approaches:
> 1. Mailboxes: Any of Sent, Trash;
> Conditions: Date is not within last 30 days;
> Rule: Conditions=[just exempting
excuse me for being a bit slow but
>>> 2 different Smart Mailbox approaches:
>>> 1. Mailboxes: Any of Sent, Trash;
>>> Conditions: Date is not within last 30 days;
>>> Rule: Conditions=[just exempting conditions]
>>>Action=Delete Permanently
>>
>> so when does it run
> A user NEVER directly adds a message to a Smart Mailbox.
but i delete and send mail, and it is Deleted and Sent i have configured
to delete older
> The combined criteria of the Source Mailboxes plus the Conditions add
> messages to a Smart Mailbox.
clearly i do not understand how a smart
i have a personal email addy and a work addy. if i forward a mail from
my work to my wife, her address book entry for me flips to my work addy
causing much annoyance. how to make her mailmate prefer my personal
addy and not get confuddled?
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so i think i accidentally got it right from your instructions.
i created a smart mailbox which referes to all the mailboxes where i
want delete limits, see attached.
so i should just be patient and the smart mailbox will do the imap thing
on the referenced mailboxes at some unspecified time?
so my SO keeps all sent mail etc. the ~/mail/Sent folder has 97,000
messages going back to 2000 or so. mailmate is starting to choke and
fail every few days.
if she creates ~/mail/old/Sent mailmate will still see and have to
deal with it.
how are folk dealing with this?
randy
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> This problem with the identities not being right is driving me crazy.
> MailMate used to be wonderful in showing me the identity that was
> being used, and in most cases automatically picking the right one.
> The last update or three it's been terrible. It no longer shows me
> the
i receive an email
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 PostboxApp/6.1.13
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Language: en-US
the text has
> I suggest another graphic, something less... creepy.
it's telling you about something creepy
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> Looks like I confused windows-1252 with windows-1251 in some places in
> the message below
my mind stops at the word 'windows' if it does not have an X in
front. :)
> the question remains, at what point are those non-breaking spaces
> being translated into ``.
if i save the messge body and
>> a gpg encrypted message arrives. i try my default key and fail. i
>> realize the sender has encrypted to a different key. i can not figure
>> out how to get mm to let be retry the decryption.
>>
>> clue?
>
> Can this even be a thing???
>
> It seems (based on what I see in the "Show
a gpg encrypted message arrives. i try my default key and fail. i
realize the sender has encrypted to a different key. i can not figure
out how to get mm to let be retry the decryption.
clue?
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>> then i can not go back and pay attention and do it properly.
> Have you tried resetting the message in MM?
yes. no love.
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> Have you tried selecting another message and then the encrypted one
> again?
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suddenly, this morning, mailmate does not display the text of the
message body. it will show me html, if i View/MessageBodyParts/HTML
but it will not show me View/MessageBodyParts/PlainText
of course, i have changed nothing :)
i tried a re-install, turning experimental features off and on, ...
> suddenly, this morning, mailmate does not display the text of the
> message body. it will show me html, if i View/MessageBodyParts/HTML
> but it will not show me View/MessageBodyParts/PlainText
>
> of course, i have changed nothing :)
>
> i tried a re-install, turning experimental features
it would be cool if mailmate had export/import all prefs, settings,
special tweaks, ...
s/mailmate/all the bleeping apps i use/g
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for some folders, the summary window, the one which lists all messages
in a folder, insists on scrolling back to the top, the oldest messages,
when i wish it to be at the bottom, newest. is there a trick here?
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>> mail from one co-worker is consistently put in the junk folder. i
>> select and MoveOutOfJunk. time after time ...
> Less metaphorically: what is filtering your mail and putting it in the
> Junk folder? SpamSieve?
yep
> A remedial approach that should work with whatever is putting the
>
mail from one co-worker is consistently put in the junk folder. i
select and MoveOutOfJunk. time after time ...
is there a hammer?
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> a forward is not the same as a reply. I too would prefer that
> forwarded messages didn’t quote the forwarded message - or change it
> in any way.
you are showing your age. sad to admit, i too am old. another old
skool thing i miss: bounce with Resent-: headers.
randy
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up to date mailmate
it gets into a state where all message bodies are shown as a single
little box, �
wtf?
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>> up to date mojave on a maxed out 2018 13
>> up to date mailmate
>>
>> it gets into a state where all message bodies are shown as a single
>> little box, �
>
> This could, e.g., happen if the folder used for the “Custom Location”
> feature in the General preferences pane was somehow
in a smart mailbox, how do i create a condition which includes all
messages (in the selected mailboxes) over a month (or two, or whatever)
old?
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doh. thanks. i had not explored the sub-selectors of 'date.' silly
me.
thanks again.
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> I find that date-received is more reliable than just date.
do not see. see "Local"
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so a family member seems to have achieved a 'creative' state in their
account; likely cause by things such as a Sent mailbox with ten years
of messages. is there a nice way to tell mailmate to clear all state
for an account, wipe all caches, ...?
randy
> MailMate Build 6146 is unable to send GPG-encrypted or signed email,
> and it can't decrypt stuff sent to me.
i am at Version 1.13.1 (5671) and can not repro; i.e. it works
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on the victim's imap mail server, there seem to be two sets of imap
folders: one in ~ and one in ~/Mail. how is that configured? i
imagine i can just `cat` them as they are really just mbox format.
but which should be the result, ~ or ~/Mail? of course, i would prefer
the latter; but need the
>> so a family member seems to have achieved a 'creative' state in their
>> account; likely cause by things such as a Sent mailbox with ten years
>> of messages. is there a nice way to tell mailmate to clear all state
>> for an account, wipe all caches, ...?
> If you don't want to delete and
> I also have a Python script that can select messages by date and
> move them to a set of mailboxes―I've used that to clear out large
> mail list ones, etc.
that sounds tempting, if it will not get me in trouble with senior
management for rearranging their mail.
randy
i have multiple imap accounts. each has a different Email Address for
the From:. when i cc: or bcc: myself, i want it to use that address;
but it seems to use the email addy of the first account.
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> From: https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences
>
> The following can be used to add a BCC (blind carbon copy) header by
> default to all outgoing messages:
>
> defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDefaultBccHeader -string m...@example.com
>
> Using the special value "<.sender.>"
> what’s the attraction to Dark Mode many developers are offering?
saving phospor. some of us are old.
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can you think of a simple way a user could have inadvertantly wiped all
mail in their account's mailboxen aside from the imap entry 0? i keep
daily backup of their mail, but the drama can be excessive :)
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> [1 ]
> Sorry to hear...
>
> You mean on a server ?
>
> With mailmate as client ?
>
> On 30 Sep 2020 20:57, Randy Bush wrote:
>
> can you think of a simple way a user could have inadvertantly wiped all
> mail in their account's mailboxen aside from t
> As someone who grew up using US dates, and then switched 30 years ago,
> I know both sides. And it's the human reading the intro line I was
> referring to; humans are easily confused by nature. I know to accept
> both formats, and I can still get it wrong.
it's a shame that iso did not
I want to use emacs to compose mail. I started with this bundle:
https://github.com/alexandru/emacs.mmbundle
which gets mail into emacs and back to mailmate.
i tell MM to compose a reply and hit Command/Emacs/Edit (^O) and find
myself in a message.eml buffer in fundamental mode. no headers.
> Have you gone into "Edit IMAP Account" and checked or unchecked things
> in the "Edit Subscriptions" window? Might save some heartache.
yes. but my guess is that these lines in `Sources.plist`
>> archive
>> drafts
>> junk
>> sent
>> trash
are the result of MaiboxType
hi,
i get occasional ghost mail folders, especially on orifice365. folders
in the folder bar which are dimmed offline but can not be deleted.
so i went to explore and fell down a rabbit hole in
Library/Application\ Support/MailMate/Sources.plist
it's a bit hard to understand. i have four
d from my personal identity.
what i need is an identity and from: address per imap account. my
emacs/wanderlust mua does that.
;; futzing with the header
(setq wl-draft-config-matchone t) ;; only match first
(setq wl-draft-config-alist
'(((string-match ".*@ran" wl-draft-parent-fo
window shows
that the message will be "From: ra...@arrcus.com"
but the received message is "From: ra...@psg.com"
From: "Randy Bush"
Subject: test 2
To: "Randy Bush"
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 14:07:24 -0800
_
com INBOX and c(ompose, the compose window shows
> that the message will be "From: ra...@arrcus.com"
>
> but the received message is "From: ra...@psg.com"
>
> From: "Randy Bush"
> Subject: test 2
> To: "Randy Bush"
> Da
2020 maxed out 13" mbp
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mm Version 1.13.2 5673
gpg (GnuPG) 2.2.25
Mail From: Randy Bush
Mail To: Randy Bush
encryption and signing on
KEY_CONSIDERED 75F2C46EF1697D929276146505ECB83A02ED 0
INV_RECP 10 75F2C46EF1697D929276146505ECB83A02ED
FAILURE encrypt 53
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>> recent change. when i reply to an htmlized email, i find myself, not in
>> compose mode, but in Enable Message Preview. i can not figure out what i
>> have done to deserve this.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but if you still have this issue then
> please try the latest [test
>
> I can do a simple "search everything for the word "duh"
regexp or something like it?
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> If the default is going to be non-flowed email, the default font in
> the composer should, I think, be a monospace font and a character
> ruler should be displayed. Is that feasible?
indeed, my composer font is Monaco 12, and i am very dependent on MM
remembering the compose window width. and
> 3. Is it possible to disable image tracking for 1x1 image by default,
> even if I choose to load the images?
yes, please
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recent change. when i reply to an htmlized email, i find myself, not in
compose mode, but in Enable Message Preview. i can not figure out what
i have done to deserve this.
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> I'm experimenting with GPG. I successfully encrypted a message to
> myself, and received it okay, but all I see is a green banner saying
> "Successfully decripted OpenPGP message."
>
> Where is the decrypted version?
maybe you need to View/MessageBodyParts/...?
anyone figured out how to use the orifice duo 2fa with mailmate?
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i have a sig configured. if i start a reply and command-a to replace
all, including the signature, with new text, i get a popup asking if
i want to delee or edit the old sig. can i hidden config to prevent
that popup?
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i have selected a text-only message and hit command-p. mailmate
crashes. how to get debug?
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i have selected a text-only message and hit command-p. mailmate
crashes. how to get debug?
It was a known issue with 1.13.2 (r5673 and thereabouts). Printing
works again on r5737 through r5757 (Version 1.14).
thanks! i assumed mm would have nudged me to
> Under Preferences -> Security, you can enable Image Blocking for All
> Messages.
already done
> If you also select the extra options to strictly block known trackers,
> the single pixels won't be downloaded.
i see no such option in Version 1.14 (5757)
i do see Always watn about downloaded
> disabling known trackers is second-best.
do i want a little snitch mailmate rule set?
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> That's what I do. I have Little Snitch set to warn about everything.
> MailMate is always allowed to talk to my mailservers over SMTP and
> IMAP and to the update servers over HTTPS. Everything else it yells
> about.
yes, but how do you know if what it is warning about is a tracker?
little
> https://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/
>
> This puts it in LittleSnitch format:
>
> https://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/serverlist.php?hostformat=littlesnitch-rule-group-subscriptions=plaintext
thanks! am giving it a try.
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when i say view html, i get
Images with a pixel size of 1 by 1 have been downloaded (2)
i would prefer to disable 1 pixel tracker pseudo-images. clue bat,
please
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i generally prefer text rather than html. but sometimes i want to see a
message as html, and without my claws leaving the keyboard. so i tried
to figure out how to map a key to View/MessageBodyParts/HTML. clearly,
it goes in, e.g.
~/Library/Application
> ```
> "h" = "previousAlternative:"; // shows text view of message
> "H" = "nextAlternative:"; // shows HTML view of message
> ```
perfect! but where did you find `fooAlternative` special function
names?
thank you
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> Maybe we need to compare setups?
i do not think MM has a `show conf > saved.conf` or whatever so we can
do a diff. i hope i am wrong.
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> One day in the last two weeks as I was reading a bunch of email in one
> account, I opened one and when I deleted it, the next one opened for
> me. This is very useful but I haven’t figured out how to make it
> happen again.
funny, i can't stop it :) assuming that by "open" you mean moving to
if i select the pseudo-mailbox of the account itself, i.e. not one of
its mailboxes, i see an unread message. but none of the mailboxes has
that message. how can i find out which mailbox has the message?
it is marked as junk, but the mailbox with the type junk does not
contain it.
randy
> If you open that message in its own window, you can right-click on the
> text in the window title bar and you will see the filing path, which
> will reveal the imap mailbox and mail account.
thanks!
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> You need to unsubscribe from them. Otherwise, MM will refetch the
> subscription list, see the (non-existent) mailbox there, and try to
> fetch it.
so that will actually nuke tem as opposed to just not showing them to
me?
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this is on a outlook.office365.com account (don't ask). i get untitled
empty mailboxes that i can not delete. they are often 'failed' or
'offline'.
i can take offline, take offline, and then remove. 15 minutes later,
they are all back, marked 'failed'.
any clues on how to remove?
randy
in Sources, which is my normal view, i seem to have
Sent and Sent Messages, one i assume to be an iFoo
artifact.
Sent Messages has the mailbox type of Sent Messages.
neither of these two folders has any messages since
early march.
otoh, Mailboxes / Sent Messages appears to be quite
current.
i
> Everything specific to MM is in ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate
> except for a .plist file in ~/Library/Preferences/
that is what i thought until i found
```
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total 0
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