Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 4 Sep 2016, at 11:55, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 3 Sep 2016, at 12:24, Gary Hull wrote: Customers may be in for a surprise if the proprietor kicks the bucket. MailMate itself has a bus factor = 1, but hey, we love it. Runbox and Fastmail appear to have a bus factor = 3 or so. Gmail has

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 3 Sep 2016, at 12:24, Gary Hull wrote: Customers may be in for a surprise if the proprietor kicks the bucket. MailMate itself has a bus factor = 1, but hey, we love it. Runbox and Fastmail appear to have a bus factor = 3 or so. Gmail has a bus factor = 100,000, which is also its

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 3 Sep 2016, at 5:24, Gary Hull yh82d7...@yandex.com wrote: Glad to hear it. You can set up aliases for accounts on runbox, which might help you. The migration process is described somewhere on Benny's site, but as I remember you need to do something related to the Gmail tags (if you're

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 2 Sep 2016, at 19:46, Zivago Lee wrote: As mentioned, I did do this yesterday.. yet you said you did not receive them (it got sent to mm-feedback@). I'll just open a bug ticket with the attachment it made. That's fine too, but you are also welcome to try the `mm-feedback` address again.

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

As mentioned, I did do this yesterday.. yet you said you did not receive them (it got sent to mm-feedback@). I'll just open a bug ticket with the attachment it made. On 2 Sep 2016, at 10:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 2 Sep 2016, at 17:11, Zivago Lee wrote: Yes, it's in my Sent folder of

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 2 Sep 2016, at 19:11, Richard Rettke wrote: On 2 Sep 2016, at 2:08, Gary Hull yh82d7...@yandex.com wrote: I moved all of my accounts from Google to Runbox and (if hosted there) Pair. For throwaway free accounts I made new ones at AOL and Yandex. Life is so much simpler now. Thanks for

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 2 Sep 2016, at 17:11, Zivago Lee wrote: Yes, it's in my Sent folder of my other regular IMAP account (that works properly). Got a direct email? I can reforward them? I would prefer a new set of logs as described in this email to the mailing list:

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 2 Sep 2016, at 2:08, Gary Hull yh82d7...@yandex.com wrote: I moved all of my accounts from Google to Runbox and (if hosted there) Pair. For throwaway free accounts I made new ones at AOL and Yandex. Life is so much simpler now. Thanks for the info Gary, Runbox looks promising. If it

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

No problems for me over the night. I'm running Version 2.0BETA (6054) On 1 Sep 2016, at 8:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 17:30, Kee Hinckley wrote: On 31 Aug 2016, at 12:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: It also indicates that MailMate is not to blame, but that doesn't really

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 2 Sep 2016, at 9:13, Richard Rettke wrote: On 2 Sep 2016, at 2:08, Gary Hull yh82d7...@yandex.com wrote: Why deal with companies that treat you like a hacker and criminal and have no personal support? What is your time worth? The main reason I stay with gmail is that I have never found

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

Yes, it's in my Sent folder of my other regular IMAP account (that works properly). Got a direct email? I can reforward them? On 2 Sep 2016, at 0:36, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:58, Zivago Lee wrote: Weird.. it should have sent to the mm-feedback@ address. Is the email

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 2 Sep 2016, at 9:08, Richard Rettke wrote: On 2 Sep 2016, at 1:53, Scott A. McIntyre mailm...@howyagoin.net wrote: After upgrading to the latest beta, and re-authenticating all of my accounts, the prompts have gone away. This may be a clue (or it may be nothing). I just installed and

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

I moved all of my accounts from Google to Runbox and (if hosted there) Pair. For throwaway free accounts I made new ones at AOL and Yandex. Life is so much simpler now. Gmail gets hammered by all kinds of hacking schemes, so Google uses a high-false-positive algorithm. Any kind of forwarding

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 2 Sep 2016, at 7:46, Kee Hinckley wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 12:56, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: A general update: I've gotten a report which indicates that I might not be able to blame Google for all problems. At least it appears that MailMate some times does not successfully save tokens in

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:58, Zivago Lee wrote: Weird.. it should have sent to the mm-feedback@ address. Is the email in your Sent Messages folder? (Maybe it's stuck in Drafts due to the Gmail issue which likely also affects SMTP.) In any case, see my most recent post on the list with regard to

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 2 Sep 2016, at 2:08, Gary Hull yh82d7...@yandex.com wrote: Why deal with companies that treat you like a hacker and criminal and have no personal support? What is your time worth? I'm not familiar with some of those email vendors you mentioned so I'll have to check them out. The main

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 2 Sep 2016, at 1:53, Scott A. McIntyre mailm...@howyagoin.net wrote: After upgrading to the latest beta, and re-authenticating all of my accounts, the prompts have gone away. This may be a clue (or it may be nothing). I just installed and activated a VPN, a little over an hour before

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

Hi, On 2 September 2016, at 1646, Richard Rettke wrote: On 30 Aug 2016, at 21:02, Kee Hinckley k...@hinckley.com wrote: I've had MailMate ask for my password in four of my Google Apps accounts (three of them two-factor) a total of at least 8 times today. Has anyone else had any issues?

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 30 Aug 2016, at 21:02, Kee Hinckley k...@hinckley.com wrote: I've had MailMate ask for my password in four of my Google Apps accounts (three of them two-factor) a total of at least 8 times today. Has anyone else had any issues? I've been watching this thread since it started and feeling

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 1 Sep 2016, at 12:56, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: A general update: I've gotten a report which indicates that I might not be able to blame Google for all problems. At least it appears that MailMate some times does not successfully save tokens in the keychain. I'll investigate this tomorrow.

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

Weird.. it should have sent to the mm-feedback@ address. On 1 Sep 2016, at 12:56, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:18, Zivago Lee wrote: You can both try the following to provide me with more data: Sent! I don't think I got the files? A general update: I've gotten a report

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 1 Sep 2016, at 21:18, Zivago Lee wrote: You can both try the following to provide me with more data: Sent! I don't think I got the files? A general update: I've gotten a report which indicates that I might not be able to blame Google for all problems. At least it appears that MailMate

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

Sent! On 1 Sep 2016, at 10:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 18:57, Zivago Lee wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 9:54, Steve Mayer wrote: I, unfortunately have had it occur twice since restarting with the new build. Same here. You can both try the following to provide me with more

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 1 Sep 2016, at 18:57, Zivago Lee wrote: On 1 Sep 2016, at 9:54, Steve Mayer wrote: I, unfortunately have had it occur twice since restarting with the new build. Same here. You can both try the following to provide me with more data: * Open the Activity Viewer (⌥⌘0). * Wait for the

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

Same here. On 1 Sep 2016, at 9:54, Steve Mayer wrote: I, unfortunately have had it occur twice since restarting with the new build. -- Steve Mayer smaye...@me.com On 1 Sep 2016, at 9:16, Richard Evans wrote: It's definitely not just MailMate, I've found several other people who are

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

I, unfortunately have had it occur twice since restarting with the new build. -- Steve Mayer smaye...@me.com On 1 Sep 2016, at 9:16, Richard Evans wrote: It's definitely not just MailMate, I've found several other people who are having problems, one with multiple logins in a browser, one

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

It's definitely not just MailMate, I've found several other people who are having problems, one with multiple logins in a browser, one with Jabber. They all started at the same time. I'm trying to get the attention of someone at Google. I assume this also means that the workaround does not

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 1 Sep 2016, at 17:30, Kee Hinckley wrote: On 31 Aug 2016, at 12:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: It also indicates that MailMate is not to blame, but that doesn't really solve the problem. It's definitely not just MailMate, I've found several other people who are having problems, one with

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 31 Aug 2016, at 12:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: It also indicates that MailMate is not to blame, but that doesn't really solve the problem. It's definitely not just MailMate, I've found several other people who are having problems, one with multiple logins in a browser, one with Jabber.

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 1 Sep 2016, at 14:33, Steve Mayer wrote: Will you be making a Beta 2.0 as drop as well with the workaround? I'm experiencing this about 4 times a day. I don't yet have any feedback on whether the workaround actually works, but I've updated the 2.0 beta as well (hold down ⌥ when clicking

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

Benny, Will you be making a Beta 2.0 as drop as well with the workaround? I'm experiencing this about 4 times a day. -- Steve Mayer smaye...@me.com On 1 Sep 2016, at 1:45, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 31 Aug 2016, at 21:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 31 Aug 2016, at 20:22, Kee

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 31 Aug 2016, at 21:03, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 31 Aug 2016, at 20:22, Kee Hinckley wrote: I haven't tried any of those solutions yet. I _did_ discover that the best way to deal with it is to hit cancel and then go reenable the account. Most of the time it then succeeds without the

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 31 Aug 2016, at 20:22, Kee Hinckley wrote: I haven't tried any of those solutions yet. I _did_ discover that the best way to deal with it is to hit cancel and then go reenable the account. Most of the time it then succeeds without the 400 error. There's no actual need to renew the token.

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

I haven't tried any of those solutions yet. I _did_ discover that the best way to deal with it is to hit cancel and then go reenable the account. Most of the time it then succeeds without the 400 error. There's no actual need to renew the token. Sure feels like a Google bug. Maybe some attempt

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

On 31 Aug 2016, at 5:33, Kee Hinckley wrote: At this point it's pretty much unusable. I have to go through 2-4 password prompts for 4-6 accounts, and then an hour later, do it again. The latter indicates that it happens every time MailMate has to get a new access token. I'm not seeing this

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

At this point it's pretty much unusable. I have to go through 2-4 password prompts for 4-6 accounts, and then an hour later, do it again. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Kee Hinckley wrote: > Here's a transcript for one of them. It took 4 trys to get it to stick. > Each

Re: [MlMt] Google login issues?

Here's a transcript for one of them. It took 4 trys to get it to stick. Each time I entered the password, okayed authorization of MailMate, and everything looked just fine--but a moment later it would pop up again. 00:48:17 Handling reply 00:48:17 Running action 00:48:17 Sending request (48)

[MlMt] Google login issues?

I've had MailMate ask for my password in four of my Google Apps accounts (three of them two-factor) a total of at least 8 times today. Has anyone else had any issues? ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com