Re: [MlMt] Inbox vs All Messages
I haven't checked everything in the manual but this is perhaps what you are referring to The first mailbox in the mailbox outline, “All Messages”, contains all messages in your IMAP account(s) except those in the designated mailboxes for deleted messages or messages marked as junk. Yes, indeed, that was what I was referring to. My interpretation of this is that All Messages contains all messages in the IMAP account(s) except deleted and junk (as it says in the manual). In other words, if you only have one account (as an example) and have created N number of mailboxes for that mail account then All Messages will contain the messages stored in those mailboxes also. Inbox will only contain the messages stored in the designated incoming mailbox. That seems to be generally true. However, one of my accounts has an Inbox with several submailboxes (subinboxes), where some incoming mails are diverted by the rules on the server. The messages in those submailboxes are not shown in All Messages and not in Inbox. I can see them only when selecting the Source. While investigating this, I noticed that - I can designate any mailbox on the server as one of the standard types except as inbox. - Since Inbox is not in the list of mailbox types, I can’t see if a given mailbox has no type or is Inbox. Robert ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Inbox vs All Messages
On 16 Jan 2017, at 16:56, Robert Brenstein wrote: I think you misread my post. I meant that it seems that Sent, Drafts, and Archive are included in All Messages and that is the difference to Inbox. The documentation implies that but does not state it explicitly. I haven't checked everything in the manual but this is perhaps what you are referring to The first mailbox in the mailbox outline, “All Messages”, contains all messages in your IMAP account(s) except those in the designated mailboxes for deleted messages or messages marked as junk. My interpretation of this is that All Messages contains all messages in the IMAP account(s) except deleted and junk (as it says in the manual). In other words, if you only have one account (as an example) and have created N number of mailboxes for that mail account then All Messages will contain the messages stored in those mailboxes also. Inbox will only contain the messages stored in the designated incoming mailbox. BTW, it is misleading to say that Inbox is for “new” messages. Better to say “incoming” messages - their age is irrelevant. My fault ... I just keep new messages in my incoming mailbox ... so in my case my statement is true but I realise that this is not true for all others. Furthermore, they do not have to include only a Mailbox called Inbox. Inbox is really a type of standard mailbox. For example, one Outlook account I use has a mailbox called Clutter, which is also of type Inbox and is shown by MM together with Outlook’s Inbox (which is fine). The same is true for Trash, Junk, Sent, Archive, Drafts are — the actual names of those mailboxes can vary from server to server. Yes, I know ... I was trying to keep things simple to make easier to explain the mailboxes. = jem ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Inbox vs All Messages
Hi Jan, I think you misread my post. I meant that it seems that Sent, Drafts, and Archive are included in All Messages and that is the difference to Inbox. The documentation implies that but does not state it explicitly. BTW, it is misleading to say that Inbox is for “new” messages. Better to say “incoming” messages - their age is irrelevant. Furthermore, they do not have to include only a Mailbox called Inbox. Inbox is really a type of standard mailbox. For example, one Outlook account I use has a mailbox called Clutter, which is also of type Inbox and is shown by MM together with Outlook’s Inbox (which is fine). The same is true for Trash, Junk, Sent, Archive, Drafts are — the actual names of those mailboxes can vary from server to server. Robert On 16 Jan 2017, at 15:36, Jan Erik Moström wrote: On 16 Jan 2017, at 13:56, Robert Brenstein wrote: All Messages All messages that you have, no matter in which mailbox the physically reside and Inbox New messages, the inbox is a unified inbox for all accounts. You can see the individual account is you expand it Send Messages Message you have sent. Sent Messages is a unified inbox for all accounts. You can see the individual account is you expand it Drafts Messages you are writing right now but haven't sent yet, they can also contain messages where you have pressed to send button but they haven't actually been sent yet (offline, problem with the mail server, etc). Drafts is a unified inbox for all accounts. You can see the individual account is you expand it Archive? When you archive messages they end up here. Archive is a unified inbox for all accounts. You can see the individual account is you expand it = jem ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Inbox vs All Messages
On 16 Jan 2017, at 13:56, Robert Brenstein wrote: All Messages All messages that you have, no matter in which mailbox the physically reside and Inbox New messages, the inbox is a unified inbox for all accounts. You can see the individual account is you expand it Send Messages Message you have sent. Sent Messages is a unified inbox for all accounts. You can see the individual account is you expand it Drafts Messages you are writing right now but haven't sent yet, they can also contain messages where you have pressed to send button but they haven't actually been sent yet (offline, problem with the mail server, etc). Drafts is a unified inbox for all accounts. You can see the individual account is you expand it Archive? When you archive messages they end up here. Archive is a unified inbox for all accounts. You can see the individual account is you expand it = jem ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Inbox vs All Messages
So what is the difference between All Messages and Inbox? Send Messages, Drafts, Archive? It would be nice if those differences were explicitly mentioned in the documentation. Robert On 15 Jan 2017, at 21:38, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: All Messages is everything except for Junk and Trash. The main purpose of All Messages is to use it for searches for which you would usually not want junk/trash, but you can always ⌘-click these folders if you need to include them in a search. Doing that should give you the maximum number of matched messages. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Inbox vs All Messages
On 14 Jan 2017, at 22:39, Robert Brenstein wrote: I expected All Messages to show me more messages than source, because it should include messages that I sent to users in that domain from my other accounts. The source includes messages in trash and spam mail. I expected All Messages to include those as well. Apparently, All does not really mean all. Is there a description of those standard mailboxes in the documentation? I can’t seem to find it. All Messages is everything except for Junk and Trash. The main purpose of All Messages is to use it for searches for which you would usually not want junk/trash, but you can always ⌘-click these folders if you need to include them in a search. Doing that should give you the maximum number of matched messages. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Inbox vs All Messages
I have a smart mailbox which is set to show messages sent to, cc, bcc, from, resent-from a specific domain. When I set it to check Inbox (in the Mailboxes tab), I see 2867 messages. When I set it to check All Messages, I see 3121 messages. However, when I see it to check the source, I see 3157 messages. I expected All Messages to show me more messages than source, because it should include messages that I sent to users in that domain from my other accounts. The source includes messages in trash and spam mail. I expected All Messages to include those as well. Apparently, All does not really mean all. Is there a description of those standard mailboxes in the documentation? I can’t seem to find it. Robert ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate