Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature
TextExpander. That is all. On Apr 9, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Scott A. McIntyre mailm...@howyagoin.net wrote: Hi Luca, So if I understand you correctly, you want MM to be trained *not* to insert a signature most of the time, and from time to time adding it yourself manually. That's one way to accomplish the goal. I honestly was thinking about this as simply as most other email applications I've used; from Mutt to Mail.app. I want a shortcut to include specific text based upon a personal selection. I don't really care about training. I understand why that's really useful for others, but, I, personally, would be happy just being able to click on the Signature drop-down inside this compose window and select the .sig I wanted to use for this email. I'm happy with not everything in life being fully automated. Would training MM in adding an *empty* signature solve your problem? A second signature with all the business card info you want to add to your email can then be manually selected, and the underlying mechanism (trained on the empty signature) would see this as noise and the overall behaviour would stay as you like. That might work and I'll see if there's some way to do that. I haven't explored exactly how the training works, but, this might let me accomplish what I'm after. Thanks for the idea. Scott ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature
On 16 Apr 2014, at 9:56, Brett Terpstra wrote: TextExpander. That is all. Completely reasonable suggestion. I haven't used this previously, but am aware of what it can do. For the moment, it's just as fast to have Sublime Text or some other simple text processor open with a sample and copy-paste, and that works just fine for this one use of snippets I currently have. But if it gets to be annoying, yep, TextExpander seems a way to go. Ta, Scott ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature
If I type -=, it puts in my standard (non-phone #) sig, and --=, puts in a longer, more formal sig including all contact details. You really can't get better than that with menu commands. I've never used signature features in a mail app... On 15 Apr 2014, at 19:02, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: On 16 Apr 2014, at 9:56, Brett Terpstra wrote: TextExpander. That is all. Completely reasonable suggestion. I haven't used this previously, but am aware of what it can do. For the moment, it's just as fast to have Sublime Text or some other simple text processor open with a sample and copy-paste, and that works just fine for this one use of snippets I currently have. But if it gets to be annoying, yep, TextExpander seems a way to go. Ta, Scott ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature
On 8 Apr 2014, at 23:19, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: I rarely want to use a signature in email, but, I want the option of using one of several, depending upon various contexts I care about. Is there a way to do this? No, only if the context is who you are writing to. It seems to be all or nothing, and whilst I appreciate the intelligence MailMate tries to use to decide which signature to use, I actually want to manually select one only every now and then. This is also the goal of the dynamic signatures. I would probably need to understand your contexts to understand the problem/request. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature
On 9 Apr 2014, at 10:23, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: I look at them as business cards; I don't hand them out to everyone at every meeting. There are very few times when I want to include them, and don't appreciate the huge waste of space they typically take up (especially in the corporate world). So if I understand you correctly, you want MM to be trained *not* to insert a signature most of the time, and from time to time adding it yourself manually. Would training MM in adding an *empty* signature solve your problem? A second signature with all the business card info you want to add to your email can then be manually selected, and the underlying mechanism (trained on the empty signature) would see this as noise and the overall behaviour would stay as you like. -- Luca Allodi DISI, Università degli Studi di Trento, Italy http://disi.unitn.it/~allodi/ - https://securitylab.disi.unitn.it/ Visiting Durham University. Durham, UK. (@secscientist) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature
Hi Fabian, I don't know your exact case, but I as a colleague, customer and service provider hate it, when people don't include at least a telephone number to their emails. I have often dates with my clients and it is really annoying, when the traffic is bad and I'm not able to call them, because there is not telephone number I get your preference here - my request was merely one to see if there was a way that MailMate, like other mail applications, could address my personal way of preferring email. I've always preferred to type a command or click a button to get a specific signature added. Unlike you, however, I detest (and never include) phone numbers in signatures. I also do not include it on my business card. Again, a personal preference, but, a phone call is an incredibly rude way to communicate for my world. It's a hard interrupt. It stops everything. It doesn't take into account that the person being called may have other (electronic) things they are working on...and, sadly, 99% of the calls I get are actually far better addressed by a simple, short, email. But I work in a highly technical field and having things read out over the phone is just silly anyway -- it needs to be documented and cut-and-pastable. If I need to have a call with someone, I can provide a contact number, or I can call them -- but I like maintaining that option manually. Anyway, it's just a personal preference thing. I was hoping there was some secret toggle somewhere that would let the stored Signatures in the Preferences exist, but only appear when I selected the one I wanted from the Signature drop-down in a compose window. Regards, Scott ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature
Hi Luca, So if I understand you correctly, you want MM to be trained *not* to insert a signature most of the time, and from time to time adding it yourself manually. That's one way to accomplish the goal. I honestly was thinking about this as simply as most other email applications I've used; from Mutt to Mail.app. I want a shortcut to include specific text based upon a personal selection. I don't really care about training. I understand why that's really useful for others, but, I, personally, would be happy just being able to click on the Signature drop-down inside this compose window and select the .sig I wanted to use for this email. I'm happy with not everything in life being fully automated. Would training MM in adding an *empty* signature solve your problem? A second signature with all the business card info you want to add to your email can then be manually selected, and the underlying mechanism (trained on the empty signature) would see this as noise and the overall behaviour would stay as you like. That might work and I'll see if there's some way to do that. I haven't explored exactly how the training works, but, this might let me accomplish what I'm after. Thanks for the idea. Scott ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Non-automatic signature
Hi Scott, I'm sure you understand it the right way, but to be 110% sure: I don't want to tell you what to do :-) I know exactly what your problem is and I think I hate calls the same way you do. Thankfully my clients write me most of the time... Skype, email, whatever and don't call me. Best regards Fabian -- Fabian Blechschmidt Webentwicklung - Programmierung Magento Certified Developer Plus Crailsheimer Str. 10 D - 12247 Berlin Tel: +49 (0) 30 419 932 55 Handy: +49 (0)176 666 55 256 E-Mail: blechschm...@fabian-blechschmidt.de Web: www.fabian-blechschmidt.de On 9 Apr 2014, at 21:49, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: Hi Fabian, I don't know your exact case, but I as a colleague, customer and service provider hate it, when people don't include at least a telephone number to their emails. I have often dates with my clients and it is really annoying, when the traffic is bad and I'm not able to call them, because there is not telephone number I get your preference here - my request was merely one to see if there was a way that MailMate, like other mail applications, could address my personal way of preferring email. I've always preferred to type a command or click a button to get a specific signature added. Unlike you, however, I detest (and never include) phone numbers in signatures. I also do not include it on my business card. Again, a personal preference, but, a phone call is an incredibly rude way to communicate for my world. It's a hard interrupt. It stops everything. It doesn't take into account that the person being called may have other (electronic) things they are working on...and, sadly, 99% of the calls I get are actually far better addressed by a simple, short, email. But I work in a highly technical field and having things read out over the phone is just silly anyway -- it needs to be documented and cut-and-pastable. If I need to have a call with someone, I can provide a contact number, or I can call them -- but I like maintaining that option manually. Anyway, it's just a personal preference thing. I was hoping there was some secret toggle somewhere that would let the stored Signatures in the Preferences exist, but only appear when I selected the one I wanted from the Signature drop-down in a compose window. Regards, Scott ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Non-automatic signature
Hi, I rarely want to use a signature in email, but, I want the option of using one of several, depending upon various contexts I care about. Is there a way to do this? It seems to be all or nothing, and whilst I appreciate the intelligence MailMate tries to use to decide which signature to use, I actually want to manually select one only every now and then. Thanks, Scott ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
