Re: [MlMt] Still confused about how Threads work

2018-04-19 Thread David Ledger

On 19 Apr 2018, at 15:34, Eric Sharakan wrote:


On 19 Apr 2018, at 8:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Apr 2018, at 21:29, Eric Sharakan wrote:

I'm running r5472.  I still think something's not right with how 
threads work.  For the inbox of my corporate account, I have 
"View->Organize by Thread" selected.  Yet I see messages in the same 
thread that are not being grouped together.  If I look at one such 
message, and select the "Thread"
toolbar button, then I see the other two messages in the thread, and 
can verify by looking at the details of the search that they all 
have "Thread-id is 111476".  So why aren't they grouped together in 
my regular inbox view?


Because MailMate only shows parent-child relationships. It might know 
that 2 messages belong to the same thread, but if there are any 
missing links between them in the current mailbox then they are not 
shown together.


Okay, this explains it.  In these cases, I've either deleted 
unimportant messages in the middle of the thread, or my responses 
(sitting in my Sent folder) make up part of the thread.  For the 
latter case, I've found that if I select both my inbox & sent 
mailboxes, then MM finds the parent-child relationships.


This is a side effect of the hierarchical strict threading used by 
MailMate. This is also the main reason that “group threading” has 
been on my todo forever. Some day...


Please add my vote for this "some day" to be sooner rather than 
later...


And another vote …

I find this a particular problem because I’m on a club committee where 
we have a committee@… address that expands at the server to all of us. 
The first reply-all goes to the originator as themselves, plus 
committee@… which includes the originator. Something seems to limit 
this to three copies of every email, but someone’s reply can be from 
any of the three. If I delete the ‘wrong’ duplicate I get a gap in 
the thread. (Add to this the fact that I have two function based entries 
in the committee@… expansion, collected from two different IMAP logins 
on the same server, and I soon get confused).


David

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Re: [MlMt] Still confused about how Threads work

2018-04-19 Thread Eric Sharakan

On 19 Apr 2018, at 8:24, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 17 Apr 2018, at 21:29, Eric Sharakan wrote:

I'm running r5472.  I still think something's not right with how 
threads work.  For the inbox of my corporate account, I have 
"View->Organize by Thread" selected.  Yet I see messages in the same 
thread that are not being grouped together.  If I look at one such 
message, and select the "Thread"
toolbar button, then I see the other two messages in the thread, and 
can verify by looking at the details of the search that they all have 
"Thread-id is 111476".  So why aren't they grouped together in my 
regular inbox view?


Because MailMate only shows parent-child relationships. It might know 
that 2 messages belong to the same thread, but if there are any 
missing links between them in the current mailbox then they are not 
shown together.


Okay, this explains it.  In these cases, I've either deleted unimportant 
messages in the middle of the thread, or my responses (sitting in my 
Sent folder) make up part of the thread.  For the latter case, I've 
found that if I select both my inbox & sent mailboxes, then MM finds the 
parent-child relationships.


This is a side effect of the hierarchical strict threading used by 
MailMate. This is also the main reason that “group threading” has 
been on my todo forever. Some day...


Please add my vote for this "some day" to be sooner rather than later...

Thanks.

-Eric




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Re: [MlMt] Still confused about how Threads work

2018-04-19 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 17 Apr 2018, at 21:29, Eric Sharakan wrote:

I'm running r5472.  I still think something's not right with how 
threads work.  For the inbox of my corporate account, I have 
"View->Organize by Thread" selected.  Yet I see messages in the same 
thread that are not being grouped together.  If I look at one such 
message, and select the "Thread"
toolbar button, then I see the other two messages in the thread, and 
can verify by looking at the details of the search that they all have 
"Thread-id is 111476".  So why aren't they grouped together in my 
regular inbox view?


Because MailMate only shows parent-child relationships. It might know 
that 2 messages belong to the same thread, but if there are any missing 
links between them in the current mailbox then they are not shown 
together. This is a side effect of the hierarchical strict threading 
used by MailMate. This is also the main reason that “group 
threading” has been on my todo forever. Some day...



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[MlMt] Still confused about how Threads work

2018-04-17 Thread Eric Sharakan
I'm running r5472.  I still think something's not right with how threads
work.  For the inbox of my corporate account, I have "View->Organize by
Thread" selected.  Yet I see messages in the same thread that are not being
grouped together.  If I look at one such message, and select the "Thread"
toolbar button, then I see the other two messages in the thread, and can
verify by looking at the details of the search that they all have
"Thread-id is 111476".  So why aren't they grouped together in my regular
inbox view?  In case it's relevant, I have the Default Mailbox for the
search bar set to "Current Mailbox" which I know also affects the "Thread"
button, and the three messages I'm referring to are all in my inbox.

Also, I thought one of the columns I could enable was thread ID, but I no
longer see that.  I do see a "Thread size", and for all 3 messages of the
thread, it's set to 1.

I have multiple examples of similar behavior scattered throughout the inbox
of my corporate account.

Please help me understand the apparent discrepancy here.

Thanks.

-Eric
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