Re: [MlMt] Why does MailMate tries to go to the internet when I click a link in a message?

2024-06-08 Thread leo
On 9 Jun 2024, at 0:32, Bill Cole wrote - and not only is rumoured to 
have said:



I noticed that too and reported the bug in LS.


Super interesting! Never thought that this might be an issue with the 
_reporting_ tool…


On the other hand, it is arguable that this should be ignored by LS 
entirely. You are clicking a link. That ultimately results in the 
browser making a connection.


Interesting again. And I agree with you: Maybe Little snitch shouldn’t 
report this.
However it might be difficult for LS to distinguish this particular 
situation...


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Re: [MlMt] Why does MailMate tries to go to the internet when I click a link in a message?

2024-06-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 8 Jun 2024, at 16:32, Bill Cole wrote:

> I noticed that too and reported the bug in LS. The reply from ObDev was that 
> this a known issue and blamed the bug on macOS.

Well, I also blamed macOS when encountering this issue. I guess I'll just wait 
and see what happens. (I haven't really tried, but maybe there is some way to 
work around it.)

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Re: [MlMt] Why does MailMate tries to go to the internet when I click a link in a message?

2024-06-08 Thread Bill Cole
On 2024-06-08 at 02:48:24 UTC-0400 (Sat, 08 Jun 2024 16:48:24 +1000)
leo 
is rumored to have said:

> Hello fellow MailMaters
>
> I have installed Little Snitch, and now I observe something _very strange_ 
> with MailMate: I have switched off downloading images on display and MailMate 
> beys this: *On viewing* a message no internet request dialog is displayed by 
> Little Snitch. So far so good.
>
> However, when I *click a link* in this message I get a notification from 
> Little Snitch that MailMate (not the browser where the link will open!) wants 
> to access the link.
>
> For example I have a message with a YouTube link (and it is really a plain 
> YouTube link; nothing with intermediate analytics). When I click that link, 
> Little Snitch shows the following dialog:
>
> ![](cid:82D0C62D-56BE-487C-B879-3EE3CED8F967@halloleo.hailmail.net 
> "Screenshot 2024-06-08 at 6.29.22 AM.jpg")
>
> Why does this happen?


I noticed that too and reported the bug in LS. The reply from ObDev was that 
this a known issue and blamed the bug on macOS.

That is the logical place for blame. MM is just telling the system to tell the 
browser to open a connection. LS is capable of handling that in some 
circumstances, e.g. if you use curl in a Terminal window, LS alerts citing both 
programs and will really block the connection if told to do so. LS is doing 
something that it presents as the ability to block the connection, and it 
generally works in other circumstances. The system is doing networking that is 
getting around LS somehow where it should not.

On the other hand, it is arguable that this should be ignored by LS entirely. 
You are clicking a link. That ultimately results in the browser making a 
connection. It is that browser action that LS should be catching, but since 
most LS users let their browser connect anywhere, it really should be allowed 
without any alert. This isn't something behind the scenes making a connection 
autonomously for unknown purposes, it is the user clicking a link. If we've 
reached the point where we need a supervisory program asking confirmation for 
every intentional link we have lost the security battle.


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Re: [MlMt] Why does MailMate tries to go to the internet when I click a link in a message?

2024-06-08 Thread leo


Thanks for the quick response, Benny.

On 8 Jun 2024, at 17:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:
This is a known and unresolved issue. Based on memory: This started 
happening after a macOS update. I could reproduce it, but I could not 
easily fix it. I think I concluded that this happens within Apple code 
when using Apple API to open the link in the default browser, but I'm 
not 100% sure about this.


Good to know. So I think I don’t really need to worry about it. But it 
_is_ annoying…


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Re: [MlMt] Why does MailMate tries to go to the internet when I click a link in a message?

2024-06-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Jun 2024, at 8:48, leo wrote:

However, when I *click a link* in this message I get a notification 
from Little Snitch that MailMate (not the browser where the link will 
open!) wants to access the link.


This is a known and unresolved issue. Based on memory: This started 
happening after a macOS update. I could reproduce it, but I could not 
easily fix it. I think I concluded that this happens within Apple code 
when using Apple API to open the link in the default browser, but I'm 
not 100% sure about this. I think I hoped a future macOS release would 
magically resolve it :)


Again, based on memory. The issue is still on my ToDo.

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[MlMt] Why does MailMate tries to go to the internet when I click a link in a message?

2024-06-07 Thread leo

Hello fellow MailMaters

I have installed Little Snitch, and now I observe something _very 
strange_ with MailMate: I have switched off downloading images on 
display and MailMate beys this: *On viewing* a message no internet 
request dialog is displayed by Little Snitch. So far so good.


However, when I *click a link* in this message I get a notification from 
Little Snitch that MailMate (not the browser where the link will open!) 
wants to access the link.


For example I have a message with a YouTube link (and it is really a 
plain YouTube link; nothing with intermediate analytics). When I click 
that link, Little Snitch shows the following dialog:


![](cid:82D0C62D-56BE-487C-B879-3EE3CED8F967@halloleo.hailmail.net 
"Screenshot 2024-06-08 at 6.29.22 AM.jpg")


Why does this happen?
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