Re: [MlMt] Attachments
Encoding binary attachments as text expands to about 3x the size, but many modern mail servers support the ability to transmit binary data, so encoding as plain text is not needed when if your mail submission server and MailMate both support this extension. I haven't tested if MM supports it. Note that even if both MM and your mail submission server both support the extension, the next-hop server (e.g., the recipient's receiving mail server) might not, forcing the mail server that has the message to encode it for transmission. Also note that any server may reject an incoming message as being too large. --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
On 2026-03-24 at 11:15:21 UTC-0400 (Tue, 24 Mar 2026 15:15:21 +) mat via mailmate is rumored to have said: Hello, I want to send a 32mb Video, compressed it’s the same size. When I attach it, it’s all the sudden more 10mb bigger. What makes it bigger? Base64 encoding? Yes. Any encoding done to send binary files in email will add ~1/3 to the file size. Base64 is the most common but the same thing happens with UUCode or BinHex. -- Bill Cole [email protected] or [email protected] (AKA @[email protected] and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Please keep discussion mailing list replies *on-list* Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
Hi, > What makes it bigger? Base64 encoding? In one word: yes. In a few more words: Base64 takes 3 bytes of binary data and encodes them into 4 ASCII characters. This makes 32 bits out of 24 bits or for a size increase of roughly 33 percent. Your example (32 MB x 1.33 = 42ish MB) fits perfectly with Base64 overhead. Cheers Stephan On 24 Mar 2026, at 16:15, mat via mailmate wrote: > Hello, > > I want to send a 32mb Video, compressed it’s the same size. > When I attach it, it’s all the sudden more 10mb bigger. > What makes it bigger? Base64 encoding? > > thanks > Matthias___ > mailmate mailing list > Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list Unsubscribe: https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments when "send as new message
On 14 Feb 2024, at 14:42, Rob Russell via mailmate wrote: Hi listers, Quick one, is there a hidden setting somewhere in Mailmate that will allow 'Send as new message' to include attachments that were on the original message? I often paste screen snippets from the clipboard to messages, which mailmate adds as an attachment with a markdown style reference to that image (yay), but if I choose to send that message as a new message, the attachments are missing, though the markdown links remain. Or is there some technical reason why this is not possible. Non-inline attachments, that is, those added by dragging an existing file into the attachments area of the composition window, or clicking the "+" in the attachments area of the composition window are preserved with "send as new message." One work-around would be save the screenshot as a file, add that file as a non-inline attachment. Something you can try (I haven't tried it so can't say if it works) is to save the screenshot as a file, then drag the file into the body of the message, where you'd paste a screenshot. MM might treat files differently from pasted images, regardless if inline or not. --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
Thanks for your careful description. Wah, I want to open and edit and save as new name and location, but I guess I can relearn my pattern. Maybe I can teach Hazel to open .doc files in Downloads? hmmm, that might make a mess. So the upshot of this is that my issue is a feature, not a bug. Knowing this I think I’ll be less annoyed by the behavior. thanks again Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 23 Apr 2023, at 4:45, Henry Seiden wrote: Annamarie, My 2¢… On my version of MM, 1.14 Test Build 5964, also on the last official Beta release of 1.14 (5937) (you can get a list of all releases from the Help Menu, without installing them), the double-click, assuming that is what you are doing, does indeed open a read-only version of the file assuming MacOS and the app in question supports it. Preview supports a PDF file opening in read-only. And so I can confirm that a PDF in MM, opens in Preview and appears as Read-only. Again, what would you like it to do - open as a new version of the file that can be saved to a new location? That would then become several more steps to store the file - select the new location, and save it - two more steps but certainly do-able) from there as a copy. The workaround I suggest is use the “eye” icon instead to confirm it’s what you expect. Then the “down arrow” icon instead if satisfied with the quick look. With practice you’ll find it useful and saves steps (keystrokes). Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Apr 2023, at 19:35, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: hi Hasn’t been asked. I’m double-clicking on the attachment - as I have for the many years I’ve been using MM. It’s fine if I download and then open the file. But that’s an annoying extra step, right?___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
Annamarie, My 2¢… On my version of MM, 1.14 Test Build 5964, also on the last official Beta release of 1.14 (5937) (you can get a list of all releases from the Help Menu, without installing them), the double-click, assuming that is what you are doing, does indeed open a read-only version of the file assuming MacOS and the app in question supports it. Preview supports a PDF file opening in read-only. And so I can confirm that a PDF in MM, opens in Preview and appears as Read-only. Again, what would you like it to do - open as a new version of the file that can be saved to a new location? That would then become several more steps to store the file - select the new location, and save it - two more steps but certainly do-able) from there as a copy. The workaround I suggest is use the “eye” icon instead to confirm it’s what you expect. Then the “down arrow” icon instead if satisfied with the quick look. With practice you’ll find it useful and saves steps (keystrokes). Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Apr 2023, at 19:35, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: hi Hasn’t been asked. I’m double-clicking on the attachment - as I have for the many years I’ve been using MM. It’s fine if I download and then open the file. But that’s an annoying extra step, right?___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
Annamarie, Bingo. MM is smart enough to see the two actions differently and goes ahead with the method you’ve requested. Yes, good to hear you confirm that the down arrow icon does what it always has (download to selected location, the download folder by default). That’s why I asked, I’d be worried if it didn’t. It has in past versions and still does. So, the real question then could be, “How do I open a file by double clicking it (or substitute the actual shortcut steps you’d be wanting to take)?” And the answer is that read only may be kind of like the quick look eye icon also located next to the down arrow on the attachment strip. BTW the ‘-‘ icon is also common, removing the attachment. Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 22 Apr 2023, at 19:35, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: hi Hasn’t been asked. I’m double-clicking on the attachment - as I have for the many years I’ve been using MM. It’s fine if I download and then open the file. But that’s an annoying extra step, right? thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 21 Apr 2023, at 8:06, Henry Seiden wrote: Annamarie, This may have been asked before, but how are you opening attachments which give you a Read-Only indication: 1. Double-Click on the attachment in the message, in MM? 2. Use arrow key to download to the default folder (usually Downloads) and open from there to its default app (E.G. Preview or others)? 3. Some other way… Specifically what? And last, which version and MacOS are you using? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 21 Apr 2023, at 6:41, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: Thanks for responding. I’ve come back to this issue after a busy few weeks. Implemented the code as directed in Terminal and it is not having any effect. I am not a coder but understand that I open Terminal, paste the code as copied, and hit return. Am I missing a step? yes, I quit MM and rebooted computer. Thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:18, Bill Cole wrote: On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 -0400) Annamarie Pluhar is rumored to have said: HI Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open as “Read Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out where to change a setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ? It doesn’t happen to my friend also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA M2. There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from Benny is at: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16006.html -- Bill Cole [email protected] or [email protected] (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
hi Hasn’t been asked. I’m double-clicking on the attachment - as I have for the many years I’ve been using MM. It’s fine if I download and then open the file. But that’s an annoying extra step, right? thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 21 Apr 2023, at 8:06, Henry Seiden wrote: Annamarie, This may have been asked before, but how are you opening attachments which give you a Read-Only indication: 1. Double-Click on the attachment in the message, in MM? 2. Use arrow key to download to the default folder (usually Downloads) and open from there to its default app (E.G. Preview or others)? 3. Some other way… Specifically what? And last, which version and MacOS are you using? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 21 Apr 2023, at 6:41, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: Thanks for responding. I’ve come back to this issue after a busy few weeks. Implemented the code as directed in Terminal and it is not having any effect. I am not a coder but understand that I open Terminal, paste the code as copied, and hit return. Am I missing a step? yes, I quit MM and rebooted computer. Thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:18, Bill Cole wrote: On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 -0400) Annamarie Pluhar is rumored to have said: HI Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open as “Read Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out where to change a setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ? It doesn’t happen to my friend also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA M2. There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from Benny is at: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16006.html -- Bill Cole [email protected] or [email protected] (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
Annamarie, This may have been asked before, but how are you opening attachments which give you a Read-Only indication: 1. Double-Click on the attachment in the message, in MM? 2. Use arrow key to download to the default folder (usually Downloads) and open from there to its default app (E.G. Preview or others)? 3. Some other way… Specifically what? And last, which version and MacOS are you using? Respectfully, Henry Seiden - - Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 21 Apr 2023, at 6:41, Annamarie Pluhar wrote: Thanks for responding. I’ve come back to this issue after a busy few weeks. Implemented the code as directed in Terminal and it is not having any effect. I am not a coder but understand that I open Terminal, paste the code as copied, and hit return. Am I missing a step? yes, I quit MM and rebooted computer. Thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:18, Bill Cole wrote: On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 -0400) Annamarie Pluhar is rumored to have said: HI Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open as “Read Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out where to change a setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ? It doesn’t happen to my friend also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA M2. There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from Benny is at: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16006.html -- Bill Cole [email protected] or [email protected] (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
Thanks for responding. I’ve come back to this issue after a busy few weeks. Implemented the code as directed in Terminal and it is not having any effect. I am not a coder but understand that I open Terminal, paste the code as copied, and hit return. Am I missing a step? yes, I quit MM and rebooted computer. Thanks Annamarie 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 On 12 Apr 2023, at 12:18, Bill Cole wrote: > On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 -0400) > Annamarie Pluhar > is rumored to have said: > >> HI >> >> Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open as “Read >> Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out where to change a >> setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ? It doesn’t happen to my friend >> also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA M2. > > > There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from Benny is > at: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16006.html > > > > -- > Bill Cole > [email protected] or [email protected] > (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) > Not Currently Available For Hire > ___ > mailmate mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments open "Read Only"
On 2023-04-12 at 09:31:59 UTC-0400 (Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:31:59 -0400) Annamarie Pluhar is rumored to have said: HI Ever since moving to a new computer, all my attachments in MM open as “Read Only.” It’s very annoying and I can not figure out where to change a setting. I’m assuming it’s a setting. ? It doesn’t happen to my friend also on MM. I’m in Ventura on a MBA M2. There was a thread on this here in January. Definitive answer from Benny is at: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16006.html -- Bill Cole [email protected] or [email protected] (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not Currently Available For Hire ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments list to bottom?
See some reference to Mail Attachments but not that specific item. It’s mentioned in Release Notes>Revision History - at r5882, 5883. That goes back to March, 2022. Earlier?? Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 26 Apr 2022, at 10:57, Glenn Parker wrote: On 21 Apr 2022, at 10:05, Charlie Clark wrote: On 21 Apr 2022, at 14:36, John Hughes via mailmate wrote: I didn’t see a reply to Quinn’s question so is there a solution to this? I’m using version 5852. I don't think so. Ideally, we need something a bit like the "tray" used when adding attachments and this should be expandable/collapsible. But I think this kind of UI candy tends to be quite tricky. Maybe someone could mock up a design? FWIW, earlier versions of MailMate actually defaulted to listing attachments at the bottom of the message. There was a hidden preference to move them to the top, which is still mentioned in the online help section for Hidden Preferences, but it no longer does anything. This change seems to have occurred after a major rewrite of the message display code. Glenn P. Parker [email protected] ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments list to bottom?
That’s good. Which version are you all in? Current Test Build is r5892, BTW. Respectfully, Henry Seiden Techworks Pro Co. E: infotechworksprocom W: http://techworkspro.com On 26 Apr 2022, at 10:57, Glenn Parker wrote: On 21 Apr 2022, at 10:05, Charlie Clark wrote: On 21 Apr 2022, at 14:36, John Hughes via mailmate wrote: I didn’t see a reply to Quinn’s question so is there a solution to this? I’m using version 5852. I don't think so. Ideally, we need something a bit like the "tray" used when adding attachments and this should be expandable/collapsible. But I think this kind of UI candy tends to be quite tricky. Maybe someone could mock up a design? FWIW, earlier versions of MailMate actually defaulted to listing attachments at the bottom of the message. There was a hidden preference to move them to the top, which is still mentioned in the online help section for Hidden Preferences, but it no longer does anything. This change seems to have occurred after a major rewrite of the message display code. Glenn P. Parker [email protected] ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments list to bottom?
On 21 Apr 2022, at 10:05, Charlie Clark wrote: > On 21 Apr 2022, at 14:36, John Hughes via mailmate wrote: > >> I didn’t see a reply to Quinn’s question so is there a solution to this? I’m >> using version 5852. > > I don't think so. Ideally, we need something a bit like the "tray" used when > adding attachments and this should be expandable/collapsible. But I think > this kind of UI candy tends to be quite tricky. > > Maybe someone could mock up a design? FWIW, earlier versions of MailMate actually defaulted to listing attachments at the bottom of the message. There was a hidden preference to move them to the top, which is still mentioned in the online help section for Hidden Preferences, but it no longer does anything. This change seems to have occurred after a major rewrite of the message display code. Glenn P. Parker [email protected] ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments list to bottom?
On 21 Apr 2022, at 14:36, John Hughes via mailmate wrote: > I didn’t see a reply to Quinn’s question so is there a solution to this? I’m > using version 5852. I don't think so. Ideally, we need something a bit like the "tray" used when adding attachments and this should be expandable/collapsible. But I think this kind of UI candy tends to be quite tricky. Maybe someone could mock up a design? Charlie -- Charlie Clark Sengelsweg 34 Düsseldorf D- 40489 Tel: +49-203-746000 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments list to bottom?
I didn’t see a reply to Quinn’s question so is there a solution to this? I’m using version 5852. Thanks, John On 28 Mar 2022, at 23:04, Quinn Comendant wrote: Is there a way to move the list of attachments to the bottom when viewing messages? Sometimes, the list of attachments is very long ([an extreme example](https://send.strangecode.com/f/screen-shot-2022-03-28-at-16-01-31.png)). I tried this, but it didn't have any affect: defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmShowAttachmentsFirst -bool NO Thanks, Quinn___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments column keeps disappearing
On 4 Sep 2020, at 19:38, Bill Cole wrote: On 4 Sep 2020, at 22:01, Randall Gellens wrote: I've noticed that the 'Attachments' column vanishes when I switch to a different mailbox and then back. Mailmate 1.13.2 (5673). Is this a bug or a setting I've gotten wrong? I use View->Columns->Attachments to turn it on, but it gets turned off when I switch mailboxes. This sounds like yet another manifestation of the long-lived bug 2045: https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672-mailmate/tickets/2045 Thanks. Does seem to be the same bug. The 'defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates' suggested there has fixed it. --Randall ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments column keeps disappearing
On 4 Sep 2020, at 22:01, Randall Gellens wrote: I've noticed that the 'Attachments' column vanishes when I switch to a different mailbox and then back. Mailmate 1.13.2 (5673). Is this a bug or a setting I've gotten wrong? I use View->Columns->Attachments to turn it on, but it gets turned off when I switch mailboxes. This sounds like yet another manifestation of the long-lived bug 2045: https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672-mailmate/tickets/2045 -- Bill Cole [email protected] or [email protected] (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not For Hire (currently) ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
On 22 Jul 2018, at 18:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 20 Jul 2018, at 12:13, Paul Sture wrote: If you are going in there to do serious work, a useful feature that Lotus Notes had was the ability to export all attachments. It was too long ago to remember the precise details (probably export from selected emails, but my memory is hazy), but I found it very useful at times. Like “Message ▸ Save Attachments...”? Oops. Sorry, I'd missed that one. :-( ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
On 20 Jul 2018, at 12:13, Paul Sture wrote: If you are going in there to do serious work, a useful feature that Lotus Notes had was the ability to export all attachments. It was too long ago to remember the precise details (probably export from selected emails, but my memory is hazy), but I found it very useful at times. Like “Message ▸ Save Attachments...”? -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
You an modify the columns in one mailbox and then make that set the default (Use as Default Columns from the right-click popup). It should then show automatically for all mailboxes that use the Default Columns. On 20 Jul 2018, at 0:01, Randall Gellens wrote: On 16 Jul 2018, at 20:54, Randall Gellens wrote: But there were two things it did that I found quite handy: there was a table of contents column that indicated if a message had attachments or not. You can enable such a column in the message list. Thank you, I never noticed that before, sorry! Is there a way to enable this by default for all mailboxes? ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
On 10 Jul 2018, at 15:05, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 6 Jul 2018, at 22:12, [email protected] wrote: I have my attachments set to the top of the email. Is there a hidden preference for removing them from the bottom? No, and it's non-trivial to add (they are not really at the bottom, they are wherever they are located in the email which is most often at the bottom). The hidden preference you are using to put them at top was just a quick hack. I won't be changing any of this before I completely replace the way non-inlined attachments are displayed (a proper non-HTML table view with columns which can optionally be put at the top/bottom of the message). If you are going in there to do serious work, a useful feature that Lotus Notes had was the ability to export all attachments. It was too long ago to remember the precise details (probably export from selected emails, but my memory is hazy), but I found it very useful at times. ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
On 17 Jul 2018, at 1:30, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 16 Jul 2018, at 20:54, Randall Gellens wrote: But there were two things it did that I found quite handy: there was a table of contents column that indicated if a message had attachments or not. You can enable such a column in the message list. Thank you, I never noticed that before, sorry! Is there a way to enable this by default for all mailboxes? The other thing it did was if you clicked on that column of a message with one or more attachments, it popped up a context menu listing them; clicking on one opened it. I'll keep that in mind. Thank you. The other thing I'd like to suggest is a way to drag an attachment from one draft to another. Or, an option so that if the front-most window happens to be a draft message and I ask an external program to send something via MM, have it go into that draft instead of a new one. (If the front-most window isn't a draft, but anything else. have it go into a new draft as currently.) A new attachments GUI would most likely make dragging work much better. I'll consider the “add to existing draft” idea, but it'll have to wait until after attachments are displayed in a different way. Right now, it's very easy to overlook if something has been attached to a draft (one of the many issues I'd like to resolve). (Make sure you are aware that dragging a file into the main text field of the composer attaches the file. This is most often easier than using the “Attach Files..” interface. Copying/pasting files should also work.) Yes, and I use both, but in the case where the file is hard to find (being in a temporary printing subdirectory, for example) or the contents not yet saved anywhere, it's often much easier to initiate the attachment from the external app (that is, from the app that has the content, which is not MailMate). Doing that is very quick and easy, with the only drawback that it always goes into a new draft, and then I can't get at it. If instead it went to either (1) the top-most window if and only if it is a composition window; or (2) a new draft, I think it would be perfect. Being able to drag from one draft window to another would be another approach, a bit more work, but more general. ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
On 16 Jul 2018, at 20:54, Randall Gellens wrote: But there were two things it did that I found quite handy: there was a table of contents column that indicated if a message had attachments or not. You can enable such a column in the message list. The other thing it did was if you clicked on that column of a message with one or more attachments, it popped up a context menu listing them; clicking on one opened it. I'll keep that in mind. The other thing I'd like to suggest is a way to drag an attachment from one draft to another. Or, an option so that if the front-most window happens to be a draft message and I ask an external program to send something via MM, have it go into that draft instead of a new one. (If the front-most window isn't a draft, but anything else. have it go into a new draft as currently.) A new attachments GUI would most likely make dragging work much better. I'll consider the “add to existing draft” idea, but it'll have to wait until after attachments are displayed in a different way. Right now, it's very easy to overlook if something has been attached to a draft (one of the many issues I'd like to resolve). (Make sure you are aware that dragging a file into the main text field of the composer attaches the file. This is most often easier than using the “Attach Files..” interface. Copying/pasting files should also work.) -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
On 10 Jul 2018, at 6:05, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I won't be changing any of this before I completely replace the way non-inlined attachments are displayed (a proper non-HTML table view with columns which can optionally be put at the top/bottom of the message). Eudora on the Mac had problems with attachments (mostly because it used inode numbers to keep track of them, so anytime a disk was restored from backup or cloned to a new machine, attachments were lost). But there were two things it did that I found quite handy: there was a table of contents column that indicated if a message had attachments or not. A simple flag, but very nice when looking for a message where someone sent me something. The other thing it did was if you clicked on that column of a message with one or more attachments, it popped up a context menu listing them; clicking on one opened it. This was in addition to the usual display within a message view. Both of these features were really useful, and I'd like to suggest that you at least consider adding something along these lines when you re-do attachments. The other thing I'd like to suggest is a way to drag an attachment from one draft to another. Or, an option so that if the front-most window happens to be a draft message and I ask an external program to send something via MM, have it go into that draft instead of a new one. (If the front-most window isn't a draft, but anything else. have it go into a new draft as currently.) I find myself often with a draft about ready to send but I need to attach something that's currently a view in another program. I could print to PDF and save that to /tmp and then use MM to navigate to and attach it, but it'd be much easier if I could instead tell the program to share via MM and have it go into the draft I'm working on, or let me drag from the draft it ends up in to the one I want it in. ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
On 6 Jul 2018, at 22:12, [email protected] wrote: I have my attachments set to the top of the email. Is there a hidden preference for removing them from the bottom? No, and it's non-trivial to add (they are not really at the bottom, they are wherever they are located in the email which is most often at the bottom). The hidden preference you are using to put them at top was just a quick hack. I won't be changing any of this before I completely replace the way non-inlined attachments are displayed (a proper non-HTML table view with columns which can optionally be put at the top/bottom of the message). Also, can we hide this information from attachments? I have no use for this: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.d This would be easy to add when the above is implemented. Nice start on dark mode support, Benny! Thanks. -- Benny https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/ ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
Received messages. I don’t open attachments from untrusted senders, so seeing that in my emails just takes up space and hides the attachment size from me. On 7 Jul 2018, at 13:03, Randall Gellens wrote: Are you referring to generated or received messages? The MIME media type of attachments is necessary to include in generated emails. How or if it is displayed in received emails is up to the client. It is useful to display because an unexpected or inconsistent MIME media type is a potential security issue. --Randall On 6 Jul 2018, at 13:12, [email protected] wrote: I have my attachments set to the top of the email. Is there a hidden preference for removing them from the bottom? Also, can we hide this information from attachments? I have no use for this: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.d Nice start on dark mode support, Benny! ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
Are you referring to generated or received messages? The MIME media type of attachments is necessary to include in generated emails. How or if it is displayed in received emails is up to the client. It is useful to display because an unexpected or inconsistent MIME media type is a potential security issue. --Randall On 6 Jul 2018, at 13:12, [email protected] wrote: I have my attachments set to the top of the email. Is there a hidden preference for removing them from the bottom? Also, can we hide this information from attachments? I have no use for this: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.d Nice start on dark mode support, Benny! ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments
On 6 Jul 2018, at 16:12, [email protected] wrote: I have my attachments set to the top of the email. Is there a hidden preference for removing them from the bottom? I would like this as well. -sam ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments List
On 17 Jun 2015, at 15:52, Allie Martin wrote:
The attachments list at the bottom of messages almost always extends
beyond the edge of the preview window limit. I have to scroll
sideways to be able to use the quicklook and save buttons.
Can this list be customised?
I'd love to be rid of the part that states the attachment type, for
example, the part that says:
application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessin...
If I remember correctly I had problems finding a good default styling of
this. The default maximum width is simply 400px. You can create a
[custom
stylesheet](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/customization#messagedisplay)
and insert something like the following to change that:
table.attachments td {
max-width: 200px;
}
If you come up with a better (dynamically sizing) default stylesheet
then let me know.
(It's not something I'm going to spend a lot of effort on since the long
term plan is to move attachments out of the HTML generated to display
the message.)
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Re: [MlMt] Attachments List
On 17 Jun 2015, at 9:52, Allie Martin wrote: The attachments list at the bottom of messages almost always extends beyond the edge of the preview window limit. I have to scroll sideways to be able to use the quicklook and save buttons. Ditto -- it would be lovely if this could be fixed. Shoshanna Green [email protected] ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments - Numbers File
On 11 Feb 2015, at 11:17, Zak McClellan wrote: I do not work with Numbers files that often, but needed to email one today (.numbers) My usual file attachment methodology did not work. I typically copy (Ctrl+C) and paste (Ctrl+V) the file from Finder. I also tried the Attachments toolbar/icon between the header and body of the message as well as Shft+Command+A. All of these actions returned: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ssikedo2yi0gzt9/Screenshot%202015-02-11%2012.04.16.png?dl=0 "You cannot attach a folder to an email. You must compress it first, for example, using "Compress…" in the Finder." Any ideas on a remedy? Compress it first. The old Numbers format is really a directory not a file. You can only attach a file. Compress it first (creating a .zip file) or upgrade to a later version of Numbers which puts everything in a single file (actually I think it keeps everything in a .zip file). Dave ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Attachments check failure
On 5 Jun 2013, at 3:40, Eric A. Meyer wrote: I forgot to attach anything, but the message was sent anyway. Here's what I have in the Attachments Check field (?i:attached|attaching|attachment|enclosed|enclosing|enclosure) Should I report this as a bug, or might I have overlooked or misconfigured something? It's a bug. If you used “Send and Archive” then it is a known bug (I found this myself while working on a “Send Later” feature). If not, then let me know if you can reproduce the problem and then write me privately with details. Thanks. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
