Re: [MlMt] Marking messages as read on open; Mailing Lists smart folder

2017-08-10 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 9 Aug 2017, at 17:51, lists.freron@nietzold.com wrote:


i have disabled „[ ] mark messages read after…“


You should leave that enabled if I understand correctly...

and the setting `MmMessagesWebViewMarksUnreadOnlyIfSingleMessage` not 
works (on r5406)


...otherwise, this setting has no effect.

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Re: [MlMt] Marking messages as read on open; Mailing Lists smart folder

2017-07-13 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 11 Jul 2017, at 18:04, Patrick Pritchard wrote:

(Oddly enough, I’ve played with _many_ email programs of late, and 
this “feature” is lacking in practically all of them.  All email 
programs seem to have a “Mark read after XX seconds” feature, but 
not a “Mark read on opening in separate window” feature.  Even 
Mail.app needs a 3rd party plug-in. :( )


Is there a way for someone to create a “bundle” to add this 
functionality?  Is there a bundle API?


No, this is also best done by me introducing a setting and you are not 
the first to ask. If you enable the following then this should work in 
the next update:


	defaults write com.freron.MailMate 
MmMessagesWebViewMarksUnreadOnlyIfSingleMessage -bool YES


It'll also be a GUI setting in a future update.

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Re: [MlMt] Marking messages as read on open; Mailing Lists smart folder

2017-07-11 Thread Patrick Pritchard

On 30 Jun 2017, at 21:42, Sherif Soliman wrote:

Welcome!


Thanks for the welcome!

On 30 Jun 2017, at 21:42, Sherif Soliman wrote:
If you hide the Message Preview in the Inbox window, then the message 
won't be marked as read until you double click to open it in a new 
window. You can hide the Message Preview in: View > Layout > Hide 
Preview.


Hmm, great suggestion, but not for my workflow. :(  I often have the 
preview window at 1/3 of the screen to peek/quickly scan emails (by 
skimming the top of the email body), and then make a call to read it, or 
I guess Outlook and Lotus Notes have spoiled me as that is default 
behaviour.. I can’t see to find a way to do this in MlMt so I’ve got 
to do the CMD-SHIFT-U when done.  A bit of a hassle.


(Oddly enough, I’ve played with _many_ email programs of late, and 
this “feature” is lacking in practically all of them.  All email 
programs seem to have a “Mark read after XX seconds” feature, but 
not a “Mark read on opening in separate window” feature.  Even 
Mail.app needs a 3rd party plug-in. :( )


Is there a way for someone to create a “bundle” to add this 
functionality?  Is there a bundle API?


Thanks,
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Re: [MlMt] Marking messages as read on open; Mailing Lists smart folder

2017-07-03 Thread Bill Cole

On 29 Jun 2017, at 14:54, Patrick Pritchard wrote:

1. In the Mailing Lists smart folder, sometimes new “lists” are 
created with absolute gibberish for names, such as 
“6141152_5959791”.  I surmise that this is because the senders are 
using auto-email generators to email in bulk, and MlMt is grouping 
these accordingly…


Yes, and it's even worse: some of these set the "List-Id" header to 
something different for every message. It's a misuse of the header and 
breaks (I suspect intentionally...) the utility of the header as 
designed. The worst offenders in my opinion with this are the 
spam-for-hire operators ExactTarget & MailChimp, who get that ranking 
because they send enough legit mail that I can't just junk all of it.


Is there a way to fix this and/or adjust this?  After a day I may have 
10 “new” mailing lists show up, which aren’t actually lists.  
(But legitimate lists do show up, legitimately, which is nice!).


To handle the aforementioned miscreants, I've added conditions to my 
Mailing Lists mailbox that the List-Id header does not contain 
'list-id.mcsv.net' or 'xt.local' which are fingerprints of MailChimp and 
ExactTarget respectively.


Another approach I use for my most active discussion lists is that I 
sort them on arrival into their own IMAP (not "Smart") mailboxes that 
are all inside a "Lists" folder, so that I can then have a "Smart" 
mailbox that contains the past fortnight of messages from all mailboxes 
underneath "Lists" split into submailboxes by mailbox name. This is also 
helpful for mailing lists that don't use List-Id headers, since the 
rules sorting messages on arrival can target whatever arbitrary header 
fingerprints work for a particular list.


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Re: [MlMt] Marking messages as read on open; Mailing Lists smart folder

2017-06-30 Thread Sherif Soliman

Welcome!

I can't help with question 1, but I have an idea for 2:

2. Is there a way to mark a message as read when you double-click on 
it to open?  I currently have:


. Double-click opens a message in a new window under the 
Preferences —>  Viewer tab
. Mark messages read after 0 seconds under the Preferences —> 
Viewer tab


I would like it so that when I cursor over a message in the 
message list it does not mark as read from the main window (this 
works), but when I double click it to open it in a new window, it is 
then marked as read…  Is this possible?




If you hide the Message Preview in the Inbox window, then the message 
won't be marked as read until you double click to open it in a new 
window. You can hide the Message Preview in: View > Layout > Hide 
Preview.


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