Re: [mailop] So, about this iOS10 unsubscribe feature...

2017-05-23 Thread steve
would break basic security on a fair few RESTful APIs too! On 24/05/17 16:36, Bill Cole wrote: On 23 May 2017, at 22:03, John Levine wrote: I would expect that if it's invalid for POST, it's likely invalid for GET, too. That is not a reasonable expectation. Or rather, it's a reasonable

Re: [mailop] So, about this iOS10 unsubscribe feature...

2017-05-23 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Something that reproduces this issue would be great. Saves us all playing the guessing game. --srs > On 24-May-2017, at 10:06 AM, Bill Cole > wrote: > > That is not a reasonable expectation. > > > Or rather, it's a reasonable 90% expectation and

Re: [mailop] So, about this iOS10 unsubscribe feature...

2017-05-23 Thread Bill Cole
On 23 May 2017, at 22:03, John Levine wrote: I would expect that if it's invalid for POST, it's likely invalid for GET, too. That is not a reasonable expectation. Or rather, it's a reasonable 90% expectation and maybe even 99% but there is no assurance that a URL which is valid for a GET

Re: [mailop] So, about this iOS10 unsubscribe feature...

2017-05-23 Thread John Levine
In article <6898.1495560...@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >On Tue, 23 May 2017 09:29:34 -0400, Joey Rutledge said: >> Do you guys have any samples of the invalid Unsubscribe headers? There is a >> newish spec (RFC8058; https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8058) that

Re: [mailop] ARC lesson please

2017-05-23 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Steve Atkins wrote: > > > On May 22, 2017, at 10:01 PM, Hal Murray > wrote: > > > >> ARC is the very-near-future solution to much of this. Get your vendors > on it. > >> http://arc-spec.org > > > > I'm missing

Re: [mailop] Hosted exchange/Office 365 specific domain junk issue (MLV:ovrnspm)

2017-05-23 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
I’d need the full headers from BOTH samples. My suspicion is that the IPs used in each are different. Otherwise, without solid forensic data (the full headers), I’m not prepared to, “Guess Authoritatively”.  We need the full headers of both samples, from both the BCL:2 and BCL:7 emails.

Re: [mailop] Hosted exchange/Office 365 specific domain junk issue (MLV:ovrnspm)

2017-05-23 Thread Stefano Bagnara
On 23 May 2017 at 19:34, Michael Wise wrote: > > > Machine Learning Verdict. > > > > But it was the BCL value of the sending IP that classified it as SCL:9 > High Confidence Spam.. > Can you add something more? The same message is not blocked from other office

Re: [mailop] Hosted exchange/Office 365 specific domain junk issue (MLV:ovrnspm)

2017-05-23 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
Machine Learning Verdict. But it was the BCL value of the sending IP that classified it as SCL:9 High Confidence Spam.. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting

Re: [mailop] So, about this iOS10 unsubscribe feature...

2017-05-23 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Tue, 23 May 2017 09:29:34 -0400, Joey Rutledge said: > Do you guys have any samples of the invalid Unsubscribe headers? There is a > newish spec (RFC8058; https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8058) that I’ve seen > floating around and wondering if those are the headers screwing things up. That

Re: [mailop] So, about this iOS10 unsubscribe feature...

2017-05-23 Thread Joey Rutledge
Do you guys have any samples of the invalid Unsubscribe headers? There is a newish spec (RFC8058; https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8058 ) that I’ve seen floating around and wondering if those are the headers screwing things up. Not saying it is, but I’m

Re: [mailop] So, about this iOS10 unsubscribe feature...

2017-05-23 Thread frnkblk
It appears to be the second -- some bulk mail sender has started sending mail with invalid Unsubscribe information and users that try to unsubscribe are generating queue noise. Frank From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Dave Warren Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 9:41

[mailop] Hosted exchange/Office 365 specific domain junk issue (MLV:ovrnspm)

2017-05-23 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Hi all, One of my customer is sending an email to 2000 recipients in the unicampania.it domain (the domain is a university domain and the sender is a labor-union for the university employees), a domain hosted pointing to the outlook protection MX and using an hosted exchange service. Here is an