Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist

2017-07-12 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 7/12/17 7:06 PM, steve wrote: Depending on how it's carved up, there are at least 50k IP addresses in a /16. One line, or... I have the misfortune of inheriting a server on this /16, and am using my own smart host. If you live in a crime-ridden neighborhood by misfortune or choice, you

Re: [mailop] User question about getting off blocklists

2017-07-12 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
To John's first point, some of us do require a bit of a nudge, even now. To the second point, if the requestor has no obvious connection to the IP, and is not the Postmaster (or equiv), some of us are going to recommend that the requestor reach out to their Postmaster to act on their behalf,

Re: [mailop] User question about getting off blocklists

2017-07-12 Thread Michael Peddemors
On 17-07-12 10:10 AM, Scott Bonacker CPA wrote: What authority is required to make a request for removal from a block list? Certainly not a user, but what level in the sending organization? Personally, the person/organization listed in the 'rwhois' or SWIP for that IP Address, is a

Re: [mailop] User question about getting off blocklists

2017-07-12 Thread John Levine
In article <01ef01d2fb31$bf07bb90$3d1732b0$@bonackers.com> you write: >What authority is required to make a request for removal from a block >list? Once the problem is fixed, it usually doesn't matter who asks to have the block removed. For that matter, if the problem hasn't been fixed, it

[mailop] User question about getting off blocklists

2017-07-12 Thread Scott Bonacker CPA
The IP for abanet.org is (currently) listed on CASA and SORBS as a bad sender - https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a38.99.228.141 =emailheaders What authority is required to make a request

Re: [mailop] User question about getting off blocklists

2017-07-12 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:10:21 -0500, "Scott Bonacker CPA" said: > The IP for abanet.org is (currently) listed on CASA and SORBS as a bad sender > What authority is required to make a request for removal from a block > list? Certainly not a user, but what level in the sending > organization? As a

Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist

2017-07-12 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 00:46:28 -, Michael Wise via mailop said: > You’d be surprised how many people think that their sincerity is flagged in > the protocol somehow…. RFC3514 was written explicitly to add support for that. pgpzmD8obTwjW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [mailop] User question about getting off blocklists

2017-07-12 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 7/12/17 10:10 AM, Scott Bonacker CPA wrote: What authority is required to make a request for removal from a block list? No authority is required to make a request. No authority is required to make a request for a pony, either. Whether the request is likely to be granted is very

Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist

2017-07-12 Thread Renaud Allard via mailop
On 12/07/17 17:35, Laura Atkins wrote: I have been known to tell clients, “There’s no place in the filter mechanisms where they can flag ‘is a client of Laura’s’, the filters do what they do and we can work with them but hiring me doesn’t change what the filters are going to do with your

Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist

2017-07-12 Thread Laura Atkins
I have been known to tell clients, “There’s no place in the filter mechanisms where they can flag ‘is a client of Laura’s’, the filters do what they do and we can work with them but hiring me doesn’t change what the filters are going to do with your mail.” On another point there are a lot of

Re: [mailop] hetzner and the btinternet.com blacklist

2017-07-12 Thread Felix Schwarz via mailop
Hi guys, thank you very much for all the input. Seems like SMTP proxies/smarthosts + port 25 blocks/connection counting might be good for something. However I really hope that breaking up TLS connections will never get a routine practice. I mean we are fighting this for years now with all these