Re: [mailop] Dear Sendinblue (IBM)... please stop.

2021-06-03 Thread Andy Smith via mailop
Hello, On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 08:25:57AM +0100, Rob Kendrick via mailop wrote: > I gave up reporting abuse to Sendinblue 18 months ago. It was getting > too much. A rare thing happened: everything from Sendinblue is refused > for every customer. There have been no complaints. I've had to

Re: [mailop] protection.outlook.com refusing to accept mail with misleading temp error message

2021-06-03 Thread yuv via mailop
On Thu, 2021-06-03 at 12:20 -0400, Bill Cole via mailop wrote: > On 2021-06-01 at 21:46:43 UTC-0400 (Tue, 01 Jun 2021 21:46:43 -0400) > yuv via mailop > is rumored to have said: > > > I do like the fact that if someone puts > > a letter with my address in a post office box anywhere in the > >

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: protection.outlook.com refusing to accept mail with misleading temp error message

2021-06-03 Thread yuv via mailop
On Wed, 2021-06-02 at 04:15 +, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > That would shut down email as a viable communications mechanism > almost immediately. Substitute subnets for countries. Is that not what your employer is doing, blocking entire subnets? The only difference is that the rules are

Re: [mailop] Dear Sendinblue (IBM)... please stop.

2021-06-03 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Rob Kendrick via mailop said: >I gave up reporting abuse to Sendinblue 18 months ago. It was getting >too much. A rare thing happened: everything from Sendinblue is refused >for every customer. There have been no complaints. It depends who your users are. I have a user who is

Re: [mailop] Feedback Loop in Gmail Postmaster tools does not show anything

2021-06-03 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 2.06.2021 o godz. 13:22:31 Tim Düsterhus, WoltLab GmbH via mailop pisze: > > Does anyone of you have practical experience with Google's feedback > loop mechanism and might be able to identify if we are doing > anything wrong or if it's just the low volume? What I can recommend from my own

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: protection.outlook.com refusing to accept mail with misleading temp error message

2021-06-03 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 2.06.2021 o godz. 08:57:18 Michael Rathbun via mailop pisze: > > In the past six days of logs on the tiny server I run (friends, family, > personal business) 97.3% of all connection attempts were hostile in some form > (spam, dictionary attacks, malefactions NOI). 88% of all SMTP sessions

Re: [mailop] protection.outlook.com refusing to accept mail with misleading temp error message

2021-06-03 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2021-06-01 at 21:46:43 UTC-0400 (Tue, 01 Jun 2021 21:46:43 -0400) yuv via mailop is rumored to have said: I do like the fact that if someone puts a letter with my address in a post office box anywhere in the world, it makes its way to my snail box within a reliable service standard. For

Re: [mailop] DKIM validation behaviour when multiple _domainkey TXT records are present

2021-06-03 Thread Maarten Oelering via mailop
Our free tester at emailaudit.com checks SPF, DKIM, alignment, and DMARC. Maarten Postmastery > On 2 Jun 2021, at 14:14, Simon Arlott via mailop wrote: > > I've yet to find a comprehensive DMARC tester that will handle all of the > nuances like RFC5322.From and

Re: [mailop] Dear Sendinblue (IBM)... please stop.

2021-06-03 Thread Rob Kendrick via mailop
On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 06:30:57PM +0200, Simon Bressier via mailop wrote: > > I'm really sorry to hear that you are receiving such crap from our > platform, could you please provide me more details offlist regarding such > sending ? I gave up reporting abuse to Sendinblue 18 months ago. It was

Re: [mailop] Dear Sendinblue (IBM)... please stop.

2021-06-03 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
Al Iverson wrote: > Convince Spamhaus they should be SBL'd, blog about it, sue them, whatever, > but keep in mind that the tiny number of individual reports to Spamcop > doesn't really do much by itself. Keep sending reports there, as if they > get enough reports, it'll cause listings on the SCBL

Re: [mailop] Dear Sendinblue (IBM)... please stop.

2021-06-03 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
Sending complaints to Spamcop does (almost) nothing, as Spamcop prohibits spam reports to any ESP which doesn't require COI/DOI, which is just about all of them. Spamcop has a long history of incorrectly telling users that the ESP "refuses reports" based on this. See