Re: [mailop] Troubleshooting MTA-STS reports

2022-04-27 Thread P Vixie via mailop
+1. ⁣Get BlueMail for Android ​ On Apr 27, 2022, 20:46, at 20:46, Matt Corallo via mailop wrote: >Not to flame but...why bother? > >At this point TLSA/DANE is enforced on mail coming from a number of the >Big Players, and most open >source mail stacks by default (well, some you have to opt in

Re: [mailop] SMTP line wrapping breaking DKIM signatures when forwarding

2022-04-27 Thread Robert L Mathews via mailop
On 4/27/22 6:30 AM, Michael Kliewe via mailop wrote: Exactly. The best and easiest solution is to contact the sender and tell them to fix the problem, by either using "relaxed/relaxed" or by reducing the line length to <=998 bytes. Just so it's clear, this is unrelated to simple or relaxed

Re: [mailop] is caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com down?

2022-04-27 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:00:46AM -0500, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > Try https://www.shouldiuseapurchasedemaillist.com Excellent job Al. Thanks on behalf of everyone. > > (I tried to keep it brand free, not trying to sell anything there, > other than best practices.) > > Cheers, > Al > >

Re: [mailop] is caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com down?

2022-04-27 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 04:15:20PM +0200, Simon Luger via mailop wrote: > Hi > > i need this page from time to time. > > caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com I love it too. Looks like MailChimp may have forgotten to pay the rent on the Digital Ocean droplet. In the meantime, for the Finnish reader,

Re: [mailop] SMTP line wrapping breaking DKIM signatures when forwarding

2022-04-27 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 4/27/2022 6:57 AM, Paul Vixie via mailop wrote: i have a slight preference for "either relay it or bounce it but don't do a little of both". and  i must observe that in robotic e-mail, mail-from is often deliberately unreplyable. the only reliable error path is at the the end of DATA.

Re: [mailop] is caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com down?

2022-04-27 Thread Anne Mitchell via mailop
> On Apr 27, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > > Try https://www.shouldiuseapurchasedemaillist.com That's awesome! Even better than the original (because, explanations)! Anne ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] is caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com down?

2022-04-27 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
Try https://www.shouldiuseapurchasedemaillist.com (I tried to keep it brand free, not trying to sell anything there, other than best practices.) Cheers, Al On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:58 AM Anne Mitchell via mailop wrote: > > > i need this page from time to time. > > > >

Re: [mailop] is caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com down?

2022-04-27 Thread Anne Mitchell via mailop
> i need this page from time to time. > > caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com I know it's not as succinct as caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com ;~), but until that site is back up feel free to use: https://www.isipp.com/blog/can-i-use-this-list/ Anne --- Outsource your email deliverability headaches

Re: [mailop] is caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com down?

2022-04-27 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, Simon Luger via mailop wrote: Hi i need this page from time to time. caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com # ping caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com PING caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com (104.131.184.82) 56(84) bytes of data. ^C --- caniuseapurchasedemaillist.com ping statistics ---

Re: [mailop] Troubleshooting MTA-STS reports

2022-04-27 Thread Jesse Hathaway via mailop
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 6:18 PM John Levine wrote: > They're not that rare. Microsoft and Comcast also send them, along with a > few smaller places. Thanks John, I'll try sending some email from those domains to see If I can trigger a report. ___

Re: [mailop] SMTP line wrapping breaking DKIM signatures when forwarding

2022-04-27 Thread Paul Vixie via mailop
Dave Crocker via mailop wrote on 2022-04-27 06:43: On 4/27/2022 6:30 AM, Michael Kliewe via mailop wrote: Exactly. The best and easiest solution is to contact the sender and tell them to fix the problem, by either using "relaxed/relaxed" or by reducing the line length to <=998 bytes. So,

Re: [mailop] get bulk spam messages

2022-04-27 Thread R.D. Montgomery via mailop
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Re: [mailop] SMTP line wrapping breaking DKIM signatures when forwarding

2022-04-27 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 4/27/2022 6:30 AM, Michael Kliewe via mailop wrote: Exactly. The best and easiest solution is to contact the sender and tell them to fix the problem, by either using "relaxed/relaxed" or by reducing the line length to <=998 bytes. So, rather than changing the message, do simply relaying

Re: [mailop] SMTP line wrapping breaking DKIM signatures when forwarding

2022-04-27 Thread Michael Kliewe via mailop
Am 27.04.2022 um 14:48 schrieb Dave Crocker via mailop: On 4/26/2022 5:48 PM, Dan Mahoney via mailop wrote: The pedantic* answer here might be to make postfix smart enough to not apply this logic*if*  there's a DKIM signature with simple/simple in the canonicalization. It is always tempting

Re: [mailop] get bulk spam messages

2022-04-27 Thread Konstantin Filtschew / Qameta via mailop
Am 27. April 2022 um 14:04:02, wilson via mailop (mailop@mailop.org) schrieb: I expect to get lots of spam messages from the realworld to train the  bayes. do you know how to get bulk spam messages easily? Thanks ___ mailop mailing list

Re: [mailop] get bulk spam messages

2022-04-27 Thread alice--- via mailop
You can build the honeypot mailboxes to capture them. I expect to get lots of spam messages from the realworld to train the > bayes. do you know how to get bulk spam messages easily? > > Thanks > ___ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org >

Re: [mailop] get bulk spam messages

2022-04-27 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
Register a new domain, set a catchall, and make sure the whois address delivers mail to you consistently. You'll be swimming in it. On 2022-04-27 06:59, wilson via mailop wrote: I expect to get lots of spam messages from the realworld to train the bayes. do you know how to get bulk spam

Re: [mailop] get bulk spam messages

2022-04-27 Thread Rob Nagler via mailop
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 5:59 AM wilson via mailop wrote: > I expect to get lots of spam messages from the realworld to train the > bayes. do you know how to get bulk spam messages easily? > Open port 25? Rob ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] SMTP line wrapping breaking DKIM signatures when forwarding

2022-04-27 Thread Dave Crocker via mailop
On 4/26/2022 5:48 PM, Dan Mahoney via mailop wrote: The pedantic* answer here might be to make postfix smart enough to not apply this logic*if* there's a DKIM signature with simple/simple in the canonicalization. It is always tempting to react to a specific anomaly by adding a 'fix'

[mailop] get bulk spam messages

2022-04-27 Thread wilson via mailop
I expect to get lots of spam messages from the realworld to train the bayes. do you know how to get bulk spam messages easily? Thanks ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] WTaF? I just got spammed BY Active Campaign

2022-04-27 Thread Hal Murray via mailop
> so I typically wouldn't even wax poetic about it here on Mailop, I think ESPs and ISPs should know better and be setting a good example. Publicity here may encourage others not to do the same thing. How did a guy like that get past HR? If you were running HR, could you filter out people like

Re: [mailop] Increase in virus activity this week @ MXroute (perhaps others?)

2022-04-27 Thread Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop
That's super interesting (sorry for my late response here). One thing that comes to mind reading the way you process the emails, is the amount of false-positive you might get by implementing scripts that way. I've been trying to do the same on our end, trying to automate the search of abuses and