Re: [mailop] ARC, was DMARC Stockholm syndrome, Reject vs spam folders

2022-09-21 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop
On Wed 21/Sep/2022 17:32:05 +0200 John R Levine via mailop wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2022, Alessandro Vesely wrote: filtering by knowing the Authentication-Results: obtained by the MLM. Wouldn't a MLM reject a post arriving with dmarc=fail and p=reject?  (And I'd presume they moderate failures with

Re: [mailop] ARC, was DMARC Stockholm syndrome, Reject vs spam folders

2022-09-21 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 2:47 AM Alessandro Vesely via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > On Tue 20/Sep/2022 16:59:36 +0200 John R Levine via mailop wrote: > >>> As I think I've mentioned many times before, the problem that ARC > solves is > >>> that legit lists leak spam because they often do no

Re: [mailop] ARC, was DMARC Stockholm syndrome, Reject vs spam folders

2022-09-21 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop
On Tue 20/Sep/2022 16:59:36 +0200 John R Levine via mailop wrote: As I think I've mentioned many times before, the problem that ARC solves is that legit lists leak spam because they often do no filtering other than checking that the From: address is a subscriber. ... Maybe the lists I hang out

Re: [mailop] Email Cloud Providers

2022-09-21 Thread Alessio Cecchi via mailop
Il 20/09/22 21:09, Michael Ellis via mailop ha scritto: Anyone have a suggestion for a good cloud email provider with good deliverability and control over their customers? I suggest the company we I'm work Qboxmail (www.qboxmail.com). We are focus on email hosting with white label for resell

Re: [mailop] Email Cloud Providers

2022-09-21 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 20 Sep 2022, at 20:09, Michael Ellis via mailop wrote: > > Anyone have a suggestion for a good cloud email provider with good > deliverability and control over their customers? > > My client asked and said: > The big three seem to be Google, Microsoft, or Amazon. I expect that Google >

Re: [mailop] two openssl (in OpenDKIM) questions for the masses

2022-09-21 Thread Dan Mahoney via mailop
> On Sep 20, 2022, at 20:31, Philip Paeps via mailop wrote: > > On 2022-09-16 05:44:50 (+0800), Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop wrote: >> I'm attempting to get a point release of OpenDKIM out that should include >> ecc key support (it's been in our develop branch for a while). >> >> In doing t