Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 not rejecting emails when instructed so by SPF recored?

2023-05-24 Thread Slavko via mailop
Dňa 24. mája 2023 22:41:01 UTC používateľ Graeme Fowler via mailop napísal: >[moderator note] > >SPF asserts senders (by definition) >NullMX asserts receivers (also by definition) > >Interpretation aside, the fact they are (mis?)understood to be the same thing >is a clear conflation. It may be

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 not rejecting emails when instructed so by SPF recored?

2023-05-24 Thread Graeme Fowler via mailop
[moderator note] SPF asserts senders (by definition) NullMX asserts receivers (also by definition) Interpretation aside, the fact they are (mis?)understood to be the same thing is a clear conflation. It may be language based, it may not, but please stop splitting this specific hair. Thanks

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 not rejecting emails when instructed so by SPF recored?

2023-05-24 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Benny Pedersen via mailop said: >test it please, do you see spf rejects or nullmx rejects ? nullmx rejects >sendmail -f ab...@example.org -bv ab...@example.org Well, yeah, you're faking an example.org sending address. Don't Do That. As Laura pointed out, and you just agreed,

Re: [mailop] verifier.port25.com

2023-05-24 Thread Matthäus Wander via mailop
Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote on 2023-05-24 18:37: Considering just DKIM tests, this one is the only tester which explicitly and clearly recognizes ed25519 signatures.  For the rest, EmailAudit reported a pass, but then said "DKIM key size is 0 bits. More senders are starting to use 2048

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 not rejecting emails when instructed so by SPF recored?

2023-05-24 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop
John Levine via mailop skrev den 2023-05-24 19:50: same thing I checked with the guy who wrote the Null MX RFC and he is quite sure they're not the same thing. xpoint@tux ~ $ dig example.org txt ;; ANSWER SECTION: example.org.86400 IN TXT

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 not rejecting emails when instructed so by SPF recored?

2023-05-24 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Benny Pedersen via mailop said: >John Levine via mailop skrev den 2023-05-24 01:58: > >>> domains with this spf would possible know that spf is more weak then >>> then rfc 7505 (nullMX) ? >> >> No, not at all. >> >> SPF -all says a domain doesn't send mail. > >+1 > >if recipient

Re: [mailop] verifier.port25.com

2023-05-24 Thread Alessandro Vesely via mailop
On Tue 23/May/2023 22:27:22 +0200 Tobias Fiebig via mailop wrote: On Tue, 2023-05-23 at 13:31 -0500, Blake Hudson via mailop wrote: Anyone have [...] alternative tools for testing DKIM, SPF, and similar in one go? Lemme throw email-security-scans.org into the list of tools for this. ;-)

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 not rejecting emails when instructed so by SPF recored?

2023-05-24 Thread Benny Pedersen via mailop
Laura Atkins via mailop skrev den 2023-05-24 10:03: nullMX means the domain doesn’t receive mail. v=spf1 -all means the domain doesn’t send mail. When I’m working with clients who are setting up domains for not-email I recommend both as they address the issue from different directions. end

Re: [mailop] verifier.port25.com

2023-05-24 Thread Todd Herr via mailop
As a postscript to this, I was formerly employed by SparkPost and so still have some contacts with people associated with Port25. When this thread kicked off yesterday, I noticed that the DNS for verifier.port25.com was a bit wonky; specifically, the MX record for that name resolved to

Re: [mailop] Yahoo FBL down?

2023-05-24 Thread Mike Hillyer via mailop
Marcel commented that they had an issue develop late last Friday (the 19th) and that they are working on it. Mike From: mailop On Behalf Of Alex Irimia via mailop Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 7:38 AM To: mailop Subject: [mailop] Yahoo FBL down? We see a considerable drop in spam complaints

[mailop] Yahoo FBL down?

2023-05-24 Thread Alex Irimia via mailop
We see a considerable drop in spam complaints at Yahoo since May 18-ish. Did anyone else notice this? -- Regards, Alex Irimia Postmastery *Email Infrastructure, Analytics, DMARC and Deliverability* Amsterdam, NL/Paris, FR ___ mailop mailing list

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 not rejecting emails when instructed so by SPF recored?

2023-05-24 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 23 May 2023, at 21:09, Benny Pedersen via mailop wrote: > > Todd Herr via mailop skrev den 2023-05-23 20:54: > >>> Indeed, an email will only be rejected if it has DMARC setup as >>> reject. >> There should be one exception to the rule of waiting till after DATA >> to check for a DMARC