Yeah, M4 + `make' is great. It's basically Chef/Puppet before those were a
thing.
M4 toggles the critic bit in your head. Instead of writing a config file to
just make the damn thing work, you reduce the config where possible and that
makes one-offs painfully obvious. And it's wicked easy to s
On 8/23/23 4:29 AM, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop wrote:
I just posted this over on comp.mail.sendmail, but the gist of it is:
Sometimes spamhaus hands off a query to their dnsbls of 127.255.255.255
or 127.255.255.254, indicating that you're being rate limited.
With all due respect, this see
On 8/23/23 11:00 AM, Michael Grant via mailop wrote:
I've been waiting for someone to layer something like yaml on top of
sendmail's M4.
First: It's not /Sendmail/'s M4. M4 is it's own stand alone language
-- one I find quite useful -- which Sendmail happened to utilize.
Aside: Is it IBM'
John Levine via mailop writes:
> Yeah, we did that. For a while I was ima!jo...@cca.arpa, decorate to
> taste to get your mail to CCA.
Ah, the precedence wars. Which comes first, the bang or the at? :-)
--ihnp4!alberta!ncc!lyndon
___
mailop mailing li
Once upon a time, Sean Kamath said:
> That’s how I learned BSD4.3’s csh had a fun history expression “bug” (it
> caused csh to coredump):
Yeah well, csh considered harmful. :)
--
Chris Adams
___
mailop mailing list
mailop@mailop.org
https://list.mai
It appears that Sean Kamath via mailop said:
>PS For real grins, this was legit (if memory serves — I’d have to dig out the
>6250 tape backups to confirm):
>
>mail !!%@
Yeah, we did that. For a while I was ima!jo...@cca.arpa, decorate to
taste to get your mail to CCA.
R's,
John
> On 21.08.2023 at 22:33 John Levine wrote:
>
> It appears that Gellner, Oliver via mailop said:
>>
SPF contains information about which IP addresses are authorized or
unauthorized to send messages for a given domain. It does not contain a
policy on what to do with this informat
> On Aug 23, 2023, at 06:59, Doug McIntyre via mailop wrote:
> ...
>
> The Sendmail configuration is mostly a pattern match based setup. For
> back when there were 100's of different email system addressing ways,
> and 100s of gateways between them. If they had to only deal with the
> way Inter
Hi,
I did some raw sendmail.cf configuration. Then some m4. Then moved to
exim and never looked back.
Nowdays, sendmail.cf is the same as modem noise to me :D
Best regards.
El 23/8/23 a las 18:00, Michael Grant via mailop escribió:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 09:35:40AM -0600, Paul Ebersman via
It's been a bit, but this week with so many of the team on holidays, I
guess it is on me to post an update.. Things that we are seeing..
* Increase of Japanese servers with Email compromises
* Zimbra BEC continues to rise, and with the latest CVE, will expect
more but it is of course sad to s
Would they? I suspect many would just need a little precision hammering (like
for elongating gold into gold leaf), some more than others.
Le 23 août 2023 13:59:08 UTC, Doug McIntyre via mailop a
écrit :
>On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 01:08:36PM +0300, Lena--- via mailop wrote:
>> > I don't know where
On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 09:35:40AM -0600, Paul Ebersman via mailop wrote:
> lena> They chose incomprehensible m4 in order to coerce you to buy
> lena> support from them.
>
>
>
> nice shot. ;)
>
> sadly, as someone who still remembers doing raw sendmail.cf, m4 was a
> major improvement over eric
lena> They chose incomprehensible m4 in order to coerce you to buy
lena> support from them.
nice shot. ;)
sadly, as someone who still remembers doing raw sendmail.cf, m4 was a
major improvement over eric's fascinating attempt to create a new AI
language and claim it was a configuration syntax.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 01:08:36PM +0300, Lena--- via mailop wrote:
> > I don't know where
> > to buy the brand of LSD that they did at UC Berkeley when they wrote this,
> > in order to make m4 make sense.
>
> They chose incomprehensible m4 in order to coerce you to buy support from
> them.
M4
Am Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 09:29:48AM + schrieb Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop:
> It looks like the version of enhdnsbl.m4 simply checks for *any* return code
> and doesn't know how to skip those responses. And I don't know where to buy
> the brand of LSD that they did at UC Berkeley when they wr
On Wed, 2023-08-23 at 15:04 +0200, Johann Klasek via mailop wrote:
>
> Wild claim, but funny. For most things or standard configuration stuff
> (even the ednsbl feature) m4's syntax is not to overcomplicated. It's
> more or less in the range of other configuration syntaxes ... (just from
> my pers
On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 01:08:36PM +0300, Lena--- via mailop wrote:
> > I don't know where
> > to buy the brand of LSD that they did at UC Berkeley when they wrote this,
> > in order to make m4 make sense.
>
> They chose incomprehensible m4 in order to coerce you to buy support from
> them.
Wi
> I don't know where
> to buy the brand of LSD that they did at UC Berkeley when they wrote this,
> in order to make m4 make sense.
They chose incomprehensible m4 in order to coerce you to buy support from them.
___
mailop mailing list
mailop@mailop.or
On Wed, Aug 23, 2023, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) via mailop wrote:
> It looks like the version of enhdnsbl.m4 simply checks for *any* return code
Have you checked the fine documentation?
cf/README:
enhdnsblEnhanced version of dnsbl (see above). Further arguments
(up to 5) can
I just posted this over on comp.mail.sendmail, but the gist of it is:
Sometimes spamhaus hands off a query to their dnsbls of 127.255.255.255 or
127.255.255.254, indicating that you're being rate limited.
This is bad, as when you get that, you start rejecting mail. I recently
discovered this
20 matches
Mail list logo
