Re: [mailop] UCEPROTECT - AWS Block

2019-12-22 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 21 Dec 2019, at 00:51, Brad Slavin via mailop wrote: > > It seems that AWS has found their way onto the UCEPROTECT Level 3 list. > > Affected messages are being rejected with this banner: > > 550 Your ISP AMAZON-02 - Amazon.com >

Re: [mailop] BIMI

2019-12-06 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 6 Dec 2019, at 10:42, Vytis Marciulionis via mailop > wrote: > > Hi, > I am not a part of the BIMI working group but, I think it is cool in it's own > way. So I will try to add my 2 cents. > > > - It is said to increase security for mailbox owners because seeing the > companies logo

Re: [mailop] BIMI

2019-12-05 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 5 Dec 2019, at 07:41, Thomas Walter via mailop wrote: > > > > On 05.12.19 02:20, Matt Vernhout via mailop wrote: >> Stay tuned for more info on the bimigroup.org website, we are planning to >> add more info very soon. > > But why? To convince marketing departments to pay for security

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Reasons ISPs (Microsoft) ignore DMARC policy?

2019-11-21 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
to quote MJW: "And, of course, "Reject" only works if you are checking SPF/DKIM/DMARC at the edge, before sending the final 250 ok. "Afterwards, it's just another source of backscatter.” and to quote MDR: "If you administer a system that accepts orders of magnitude fewer than 150,000 connectio

Re: [mailop] Hotmail delivery issues

2019-11-18 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
When they say “do not meet outlook technical standards” they mean it. Go through Every Single Bit of your technical setup and compare it against their requirements. If, at any point you think “oh, no, that won’t matter that I’m doing it a little different than they say…” trust me, you’re wrong.

Re: [mailop] Reg. false positive bounces at Yahoo ISP

2019-11-13 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
End of September there was a (now fixed) issue with some Verizon / Yahoo accounts due to a problem on their end. It’s likely safe to continue mailing those accounts. laura > On 13 Nov 2019, at 06:10, Vaibhav via mailop wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Recently we observed we are getting false

Re: [mailop] No response on DNS queries to NS for zen.spamhaus.org

2019-10-30 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 30 Oct 2019, at 12:05, Heiko Schlittermann via mailop > wrote: > > I really hope that someone from spamhaus will come in here and can teach > me the proper way to ask for de-blocking the query source IP. I really would not hold out much hope for that. I think you’re much better off actua

Re: [mailop] No response on DNS queries to NS for zen.spamhaus.org

2019-10-30 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 29 Oct 2019, at 19:59, Heiko Schlittermann via mailop > wrote: > > Eric, > > Eric Tykwinski (Di 29 Okt 2019 20:52:46 CET): >> Heiko, >> >> I do believe they just stop responding on over 300K queries. >> TOS Link: https://www.spamhaus.org/organization/dnsblusage/ > > Thank you, that pag

Re: [mailop] Junk filtering as a tool for unfair competition

2019-10-23 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
One of the things I’ve deduced over the years from discussions (oh so many discussions) is that one of the major factors in SmartScreen filters is how recipients are interacting with the mail. It is a direct measure of how your users are interacting with the mail. This means a few things. 1)

Re: [mailop] Do we need Spam folders?

2019-10-14 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 14 Oct 2019, at 17:29, Chris Wedgwood via mailop wrote: > > as things stand today, i think we do > > technology has gotten very good but it's not perfect; sometimes spam > isn't detected, and sometimes real messages are detected as spam And, sometimes… What one recipient sees as spam an

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-14 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 14 Oct 2019, at 14:01, Nick via mailop wrote: > > On 2019-10-14 13:32 BST, Steve Atkins via mailop wrote: >> Consider cloud providers, VPS providers, ESPs etc, and >> whether they enforce any sort of ToS forbidding abusive traffic >> from their customers. >> >> If a provider consistently a

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-14 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 14 Oct 2019, at 10:50, Paul Smith via mailop wrote: > > On 14/10/2019 10:17, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: >> >> When we closed down our colo and moved to a VPS I was slightly concerned >> about delivery of our mail, given the history of the last time we moved

Re: [mailop] Gmail marking email from me as spam

2019-10-14 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 14 Oct 2019, at 09:27, Vittorio Bertola via mailop > wrote: > >> Il 12 ottobre 2019 01:31 Brandon Long via mailop ha >> scritto: >> >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 2:09 AM Chris Woods via mailop < mailop@mailop.org >> > wrote: >> Has the prevailing method of decidi

Re: [mailop] Barracuda contact required or any insights on a certain bounce type

2019-09-21 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
It’s a user level block... evidenced by the fact other addresses at that domain receiving the mail. Whatever the recipient said, it is totally on them to figure out how to receive mail they want. Laura Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Erwin wrote: > > You won't get an of

Re: [mailop] Barracuda contact required or any insights on a certain bounce type

2019-09-20 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
If it’s just a couple recipients at the domain take the hint. More than likely those specific recipients have manually blocked the sender. They’re done with your mail. Stop mailing them. Laura Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2019, at 5:24 PM, Andy Onofrei via mailop > wrote: > > HI Erwin

Re: [mailop] Best Re-engagement Email

2019-09-19 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 19 Sep 2019, at 16:47, Michael Peddemors via mailop > wrote: > > On 2019-09-19 8:35 a.m., Al Iverson via mailop wrote: >> Thus there are three categories of subscriber responses: >> - Clicked on unsub link or "no" button. Stop mailing. >> - Clicked on opt-in link or "yes" button. Continue

Re: [mailop] Resolving issues for several yahoo domains?

2019-09-06 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
gt; messages sent on a single connection in the past week is 414k, and I know > I've seen total number of connections from a single source over 10k), the > throttling is on a more esoteric collections of signals ... > > Brandon > >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 5:06 AM Lau

Re: [mailop] Resolving issues for several yahoo domains?

2019-09-06 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
of software > was so crude it had no connection timeouts and just sat there - haven't seen > that behaviour in a very long time :) > > On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 11:08, Laura Atkins via mailop <mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: > There was a point in time where if you d

Re: [mailop] Resolving issues for several yahoo domains?

2019-09-06 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
There was a point in time where if you didn’t limit the number of messages per session a few of the larger mailbox providers would simply cut you off. The issue was some spammers were making hundreds of connections and then holding them open for days (yes, really, more than 24 hours at a time).

Re: [mailop] [ext] Re: Return Path / Sender Score

2019-08-23 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 23 Aug 2019, at 18:35, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:18 PM Jay Hennigan via mailop > wrote: >> >> On 8/22/19 13:35, Michael Rathbun via mailop wrote: >> >>> In '1984' there's Newspeak. Since 1995, there's been Spamspeak. Clarity in >>> discussion is to be

Re: [mailop] Weird blocking by outlook.com (S3150)

2019-08-22 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
In my experience, when the bounce message says "Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block list (S3150).” That means that Microsoft is seeing problems across a wide range of IPs in a space and they don’t have a clear picture of where the customer bo

Re: [mailop] [ext] Re: Return Path / Sender Score

2019-08-22 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 22 Aug 2019, at 08:53, Mathieu Bourdin via mailop > wrote: > >> *** Shouldn't spam traps reject all mails after the END-OF-DATA? *** > > If they did, they would be easily identifiable, and thus would have no value. Not sure I understand this point of view. I think everyone should be reje

Re: [mailop] Lawsuit to watch: Tulsi v. Google

2019-07-27 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
CAN SPAM basically says that receivers are not obligated to deliver mail that complies with the law. It’s, IMO, a badly written, poorly argued lawsuit that sounds more like something I’d read on NANAE by someone with only passing familiarity with the law or how the courts work. I blogged about

Re: [mailop] Gmail Postmaster IP reputation shift on July 2nd

2019-07-05 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
I’m seeing jumps on a couple of my clients, but no change on others. laura > On 5 Jul 2019, at 16:37, Scott Southard via mailop wrote: > > Seeing a jump in red IPs on our end as well over the past 2 days. Previously, > everything had been trending in a very positive manner. We're all kind o

Re: [mailop] Barracuda IP listings

2019-06-18 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> > On 18 Jun 2019, at 12:57, Kieran Cooper via mailop wrote: > > A couple of our customers at SparkPost have started seeing widespread > listings of multiple IP addresses on Barracuda’s blacklist and someone > suggested that something might have gone wrong there overnight. > > Does anyone ha

Re: [mailop] Contact at Barracuda?? re: IMPORTANT re: MSRBL.net & Barracuda Networks Opened Case #: 03269004

2019-06-13 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 13 Jun 2019, at 18:11, Kevin A. McGrail via mailop > wrote: > > On 6/13/2019 1:06 PM, Erwin via mailop wrote: >> That’s ESS, our hosted email filtering service which includes customer >> configured list of RBLs. > > Thanks Erwin. Anyway for you to alert users using msrbl to well, not do

Re: [mailop] Howto be a good mailop (best practice / insights wanted)

2019-05-10 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 10 May 2019, at 14:11, Leo Gaspard via mailop wrote: > > Steve Atkins via mailop writes: >>> On May 10, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Leo Gaspard via mailop >>> wrote: >>> Laura Atkins via mailop writes: >>>> For victims of listbombing, COI isn’t an

Re: [mailop] Howto be a good mailop (best practice / insights wanted)

2019-05-10 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 10 May 2019, at 11:40, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > > The solution ... is to stop thinking that all decisions on the legitimacy of > an email can be resolved at the instant the machine is focusing on that one > email. > > We need to move beyond "Spam" filtering as a one-off, per me

Re: [mailop] Howto be a good mailop (best practice / insights wanted)

2019-05-10 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
Captchas aren’t a FUSSUP. They’re meant to address a specific problem - listbombing. COI contributes to the problem of listbombing. SMS challenge is going to make that worse. 1000 SMS messages in an hour is a problem. There are people who’ve been working on this issue for years and I’m sure th

Re: [mailop] Howto be a good mailop (best practice / insights wanted)

2019-05-10 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 9 May 2019, at 22:53, Rich Kulawiec via mailop wrote: > > On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 09:26:50AM -0400, Rob McEwen via mailop wrote: >> you should strongly encourage your customers to >> captcha-protect their signup forms to prevent bots from signing up spamtrap >> addresses. > > No, you shoul

Re: [mailop] openspf.org down

2019-05-02 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
I just did something similar. laura > On 2 May 2019, at 16:42, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > > Linkedin suggests he works for Agari. I emailed a friend who works > there and asked her to pass a message along asking about openspf.org. > I'll share back what I hear. And I'll tell him about th

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