Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-21 Thread Bastian Blank via mailop
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 10:19:55AM -0500, Mike Hammett via mailop wrote: > Down with big mail! ;-) As you seem to be unable to properly quote e-mails, but write them without showing what you refer to? Bastian -- Each kiss is as the first. -- Miramanee, Kirk's wife, "The

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-20 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 8/20/22 7:28 AM, Stuart Henderson via mailop wrote: Ha, well that's one way to work around one of the major problems with using OAuth2 with simple tools! I can't tell if you're jesting or not. But I've run worse programs as a service that interacted with the desktop so that other thing

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-20 Thread Stuart Henderson via mailop
On 2022/08/19 10:31, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > > Who thinks managing and refreshing client TLS certificates is easier than > OAUTH2? It's certainly easier than getting client IDs registered with whichever providers might be used. ___ mailop

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-20 Thread Stuart Henderson via mailop
On 2022/08/20 06:55, Alexander Huynh via mailop wrote: > Shameless plug: this discussion has gotten me to open-source my Office 365 > OAuth script, which should be plug-and-play compatible with mail systems > that can run python3 scripts and receive XOAUTH2 JWTs via stdin. > > If you'd like to

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-20 Thread Alexander Huynh via mailop
Shameless plug: this discussion has gotten me to open-source my Office 365 OAuth script, which should be plug-and-play compatible with mail systems that can run python3 scripts and receive XOAUTH2 JWTs via stdin. If you'd like to give it a try, visit

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-19 Thread Brandon Long via mailop
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 3:58 PM Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > Dnia 19.08.2022 o godz. 10:31:32 Brandon Long via mailop pisze: > > I won't say that OAUTH is the perfect solution to all of these issues, > but > > it is definitely an improvement for them. > > Could TLS client certs have been

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-19 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 19.08.2022 o godz. 10:31:32 Brandon Long via mailop pisze: > I won't say that OAUTH is the perfect solution to all of these issues, but > it is definitely an improvement for them. > Could TLS client certs have been issued in place of the tokens in these > schemes? Maybe? Not sure what it >

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-19 Thread Alan Hodgson via mailop
On Fri, 2022-08-19 at 10:19 -0500, Mike Hammett via mailop wrote: > > I wonder: How do other Microsoft Office365 customers mitigate this > situation? If O365 no longer meets their needs, I guess maybe they'll have to use something different. Or change their needs.

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-19 Thread Mike Hammett via mailop
Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP. Hi Team I am involved in a large non profit organisation in Switzerland. A couple of years ago, that organisation got persuaded to switch to Office365 as they got a good offer for non profit organisations. One of th

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-19 Thread Gellner, Oliver via mailop
On 2022/08/19 12:03, Stuart Henderson wrote: > It would seem sensible for operators who want to require something > stronger than basic authentication to have a way to use TLS with > client certificates as an alternative to OAuth2, it would be a lot more > straightforward to handle on the client

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-19 Thread Vladimir Gabrielescu via mailop
. From: mailop on behalf of Stuart Henderson via mailop Sent: Friday, August 19, 2022 6:03 AM To: Gellner, Oliver Cc: mailop@mailop.org ; Benoît Panizzon Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP. On 2022/08/19 09

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-19 Thread Stuart Henderson via mailop
On 2022/08/19 09:08, Gellner, Oliver via mailop wrote: > Hello, > IMAP, SMTP etc are still being supported with Office365. What gets > disabled is Basic Auth for some services. Microsoft announced the > decomission of Basic Authentication three years ago and all tenant > administrators have been

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-19 Thread Gellner, Oliver via mailop
and use it. -- BR Oliver -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: mailop Im Auftrag von Benoît Panizzon via mailop Gesendet: Freitag, 19. August 2022 08:41 An: mailop@mailop.org Betreff: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP. Hi Team I am involved

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2022-08-19 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
p@mailop.org Subject: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP. Hi Team I am involved in a large non profit organisation in Switzerland. A couple of years ago, that organisation got persuaded to switch to Office365 as they got a good offer for non profit orga

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-19 Thread Christopher Hawker via mailop
blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP. Hi Team I am involved in a large non profit organisation in Switzerland. A couple of years ago, that organisation got persuaded to switch to Office365 as they got a good offer for non profit organisations. One of the promises at that time: Everyone

[mailop] Microsoft Office365 blocking non Oauth2 authentication on IMAP and SMTP.

2022-08-19 Thread Benoît Panizzon via mailop
Hi Team I am involved in a large non profit organisation in Switzerland. A couple of years ago, that organisation got persuaded to switch to Office365 as they got a good offer for non profit organisations. One of the promises at that time: Everyone could continue working as before as all clients