Re: [mailop] connection issues from .*?.bullet.mail.(skk|kks).yahoo.co.jp

2016-11-10 Thread Benoit Panizzon
Hi all Thank you for the various feedback I got. I have re-worked my spamtrap SMTP dialogues. But still I get weird behavior from yahoo servers. (not yahoo japan this time, but servers like: nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com nm41-vm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com I see them repeatedly connecting,

Re: [mailop] connection issues from .*?.bullet.mail.(skk|kks).yahoo.co.jp

2016-10-30 Thread Bill Cole
On 30 Oct 2016, at 16:57, Jeremy Harris wrote: On 30/10/16 20:31, Bill Cole wrote: On 30 Oct 2016, at 11:45, Jost Krieger wrote: without the magical word ESMTP, no one is allowed to use EHLO. You've invented a non-existent rule. I hope no one has made the blunder of enshrining that

Re: [mailop] connection issues from .*?.bullet.mail.(skk|kks).yahoo.co.jp

2016-10-30 Thread Renaud Allard via mailop
On 10/28/2016 03:18 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:23:49 +0200, Benoit Panizzon said: > >> Nice, so Yahoo's mailservers are broken? > > It's 2016. The mere fact it's sending HELO rather than EHLO is a pretty good > indication that it is either so decrepit or so

Re: [mailop] connection issues from .*?.bullet.mail.(skk|kks).yahoo.co.jp

2016-10-30 Thread John Levine
>Nice, so Yahoo's mailservers are broken? No. For one thing, Yahoo Japan is not the same company as Yahoo. There is partial cross-ownership but they are operated separately. For another, it's perfectly fine to send HELO if you're not planning to ask for any optional features. These days

Re: [mailop] connection issues from .*?.bullet.mail.(skk|kks).yahoo.co.jp

2016-10-30 Thread Jost Krieger
Am 28.10.2016 um 15:18 schrieb valdis.kletni...@vt.edu: On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:23:49 +0200, Benoit Panizzon said: Nice, so Yahoo's mailservers are broken? It's 2016. The mere fact it's sending HELO rather than EHLO is a pretty good indication that it is either so decrepit or so deficient

Re: [mailop] connection issues from .*?.bullet.mail.(skk|kks).yahoo.co.jp

2016-10-28 Thread Benoit Panizzon
Hi Vladis > in Appendix E). Only the EXPN and HELP commands are expected to > result in multiline replies in normal circumstances, however > multiline replies are allowed for any command. > > Note the last sentence. Nice, so Yahoo's mailservers are broken? -BenoƮt Panizzon- -- I

Re: [mailop] connection issues from .*?.bullet.mail.(skk|kks).yahoo.co.jp

2016-10-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 11:09:27 +0200, Benoit Panizzon said: > > PS: Maybe I am not supposed to send multiline prompts if a server > > greets with HELO instead of EHLO? > > Note to self, next time read RFC before sending email... > > Old RFC 821 does not state, that a reply to HELO can be multiline.

Re: [mailop] connection issues from .*?.bullet.mail.(skk|kks).yahoo.co.jp

2016-10-28 Thread Benoit Panizzon
> PS: Maybe I am not supposed to send multiline prompts if a server > greets with HELO instead of EHLO? Note to self, next time read RFC before sending email... Old RFC 821 does not state, that a reply to HELO can be multiline. After changing my spamtrap to only send one line in reply to HELO,

[mailop] connection issues from .*?.bullet.mail.(skk|kks).yahoo.co.jp

2016-10-28 Thread Benoit Panizzon
Hello I see a lot of connections from servers with hostnames ending in: bullet.mail.(skk|kks).yahoo.co.jp, but no emails sent. So I sniffed one of the connections. I see this SMTP Handshake: Me=> 200 Welcome to my server Yahoo <= HELO (hostname of yahoo server) Me=> 200-Hello I do