Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

2018-01-10 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Michael Rathbun Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 8:03 AM To: mailop <mailop@mailop.org> Subject: Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay? On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:53:15 -0500, Al Iverson <a

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

2018-01-10 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 20:59:04 +0200, Sotiris Tsimbonis said: > Hi all, > > I received today (9 Jan 2018) a message from outlook's feedback loop > with a message that was originally sent to a hotmail address on 30 Jan 2017. Just as a gentle reminder - sometimes the Date: is incorrect because the

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

2018-01-10 Thread Michael Rathbun
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:53:15 -0500, Al Iverson wrote: >I agree 100% here. Could there be a bug? Sure. Is it likely, based on >the data scene so far? No, not really. Agreed. Withal the fact that the platform is nearing the end of a massive conversion/merge suggests

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

2018-01-10 Thread Al Iverson
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:54 AM, Stefano Bagnara wrote: > On 10 January 2018 at 08:16, Sotiris Tsimbonis wrote: >> [...] They did >> not report it as spam yesterday, they only viewed it. They don't use an >> email client, they only use the web interface provided

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

2018-01-10 Thread David Hofstee
> It was not on their inbox, so they used search to find all emails from us and last year's email > came up. So they clicked on last year's email and opened it. They did not report it as spam > yesterday, they only viewed it. They don't use an email client, they only use the web interface >

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

2018-01-09 Thread Stefano Bagnara
On 10 January 2018 at 08:16, Sotiris Tsimbonis wrote: > [...] They did > not report it as spam yesterday, they only viewed it. They don't use an > email client, they only use the web interface provided by hotmail. I often heard story like this... the fact is that this "i never

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

2018-01-09 Thread Sotiris Tsimbonis
On 9/1/18 21:12, Al Iverson wrote: > Likely the user reported it as spam in the last 24 hours. No ISP is > knowingly sitting on complaints for almost a year. > > You'll probably never know for sure unless you were to ask that user > (and assuming that you will trust their answer). We actually

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

2018-01-09 Thread Charles McKean
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:45 PM, Bill Cole wrote: > On 9 Jan 2018, at 14:53, Stefano Bagnara wrote: > >> Also, another user here reported that recently Microsoft introduced >> automations so that an user moving messages from inbox to spam via >> IMAP (also

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

2018-01-09 Thread Bill Cole
On 9 Jan 2018, at 14:53, Stefano Bagnara wrote: > Also, another user here reported that recently Microsoft introduced > automations so that an user moving messages from inbox to spam via > IMAP (also in bulk) automatically create abuse reports/FBL. That's horrifying. It's oblivious bulk

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

2018-01-09 Thread Michael Wise via mailop
-Original Message- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Stefano Bagnara Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 11:54 AM To: mailop <mailop@mailop.org> Subject: Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay? On 9 January 2018 at 19:59, Sotiris Tsi

Re: [mailop] Hotmail/Outlook feedback loop processing delay?

2018-01-09 Thread Al Iverson
Likely the user reported it as spam in the last 24 hours. No ISP is knowingly sitting on complaints for almost a year. You'll probably never know for sure unless you were to ask that user (and assuming that you will trust their answer). Cheers, Al Iverson On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Sotiris